Which of the two beasts of Rev. 13 comes in the place of Christ?

[iamlamad]

It seems that the first beast, with 7 heads, is more of a politician, not religious. On the other hand, it is the second beast that forces all to worship the first Beast. It would seem then that it is the False Prophet that is the one who comes as if he were the Christ.

Your thoughts?

[R. Hartono]

The 2nd beast will come from Arab religion n pretend to b Elijah as well, he will force the world to worship the first beast as the promised Messiah in Judaism instead of Jesus. So the 1st beast has the Bible background.

[Leonardo Von]

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Which of the two beasts of Rev. 13 comes in the place of Christ?

The first.

[R. Hartono]

On 8/30/2021 at 8:42 PM, Leonardo Von said:

The first.

 

[AdHoc]

On 1/9/2020 at 10:50 PM, iamlamad said:

It seems that the first beast, with 7 heads, is more of a politician, not religious. On the other hand, it is the second beast that forces all to worship the first Beast. It would seem then that it is the False Prophet that is the one who comes as if he were the Christ.

Your thoughts?

I think you are right. The reason seems to me to be clear. Since Nimrod developed the pagan religion that reached for the heavenly host in Babel, there have been six world powers. Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome. But one nation was a thorn to each of these great powers - Israel. From Egypt to Rome, history showed one thing. If Israel kept their God's commandments, they were invincible. The true Capital of the world is Jerusalem. Rome admits this and sent the crusaders to gain it. Islam secretly admit it and claim it with Al Aqsa on Moriah. 1.3 billion Roman Catholics and 1.6 billion Mohammedans all look to Jerusalem. Added to this, Jewry and Fundamental Christianity, though small, also look to Jerusalem as the "city of the great King". Whoever gets Jerusalem gets the world.

The Beast is, by much evidence, is a Roman king. He rise out of the "sea". In parable, the "sea" is the Nations and the Beast is thus  a Gentile king. The Law of Moses reserves the Holy of Holies for God, and the Law also forbids a Gentile king to reign over Israel. But in gross infidelity, at the illegal trial of Jesus, Israel called for Caesar as their king, and, although Israelites around the world don't read the New Testament, their choice will stand in the end. They get their Caesar.

But if a Gentile Roman king suddenly appears on the scene and wants to abolish religion, ascend the throne of the whole world, and claim deity by claiming the Holy of Holies in Jerusalem, he needs a Jewish mediator-negotiator. Thus, the second Beast - a religious Israelite who can convince Israel that he has found Emmanuel - God with them. So we note that the second Beast comes from THE EARTH, not the sea (Rev.13:11). 

Edited January 19, 2022 by AdHoc

[Last Daze]

On 1/9/2020 at 3:50 PM, iamlamad said:

It seems that the first beast, with 7 heads, is more of a politician, not religious. On the other hand, it is the second beast that forces all to worship the first Beast. It would seem then that it is the False Prophet that is the one who comes as if he were the Christ.

Your thoughts?

The second.  The first is an evil angel in charge of creating the global political structure that the second will rule over.

[The Light]

Both the first and second beast claim to be Christ.

The second beast is the rider on the white horse. He is the seventh king and is given the stephanos crown which likely means that he becomes head of the UN as the stephanos crown is their symbol. The rider on the white horse will be a king of the North. He will cause the world to worship the 1st beast. 

The first beast was and is not and yet is. He is the eighth king and was of the seven. This in Nimrod who is the Assyrian and the king of Babylon. His is also known as Baal, Molech and many other names. Nimrod is THE ANTICHIST.

 

[Montana Marv]

The first beast (antichrist) would represent Christ, the second beast (false prophet) would represent the Holy Spirit.  Both of these beasts are thrown into the Lake of Fire; thus both are human.  Then Satan would try to have claim on God the Father.

In Christ

Montana Marv