Heads Up! Virus in China.

[JoeMo]

Let's see - About 3,000 confirmed cases of the new coronavirus worldwide. 9 deaths. Compare that to 15 Million cases of flu this year in the U.S. alone; with over 10,000 deaths.  Which sounds scarier? Which gets the most news?

[Jostler]

2 minutes ago, JoeMo said:

Let's see - About 3,000 confirmed cases of the new coronavirus worldwide. 9 deaths. Compare that to 15 Million cases of flu this year in the U.S. alone; with over 10,000 deaths.  Which sounds scarier? Which gets the most news?

excellent example of why getting a bit of information out might be a good idea.

 

as at February 1st, today:

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There are currently 14,555 confirmed cases worldwide, including 305 fatalities.

and there are very, very good reasons why comparing this to the common annual flu is like comparing apples to watermelons.  This thing has only been reported on for a month...but....i'll save that for tomorrow and maybe CNN won't be able to pull the wool over people's eyes if you get armed with some real numbers.....that pablum is being trotted out by people who know it's misleading...and even that could use some discussion

[Jostler]

just understanding that the lowercase n in "2019 nCoV" means  (it means novel or new) and adding to that the concept of herd immunity (lack of it in the case of a novel virus) gives insight into the utter poverty of attempting to compare this at any level to the annual sniffles....and those being told to do that kind of comparison are being FED that disinformation on purpose....counting on the sad state of public education to provide cover.... the "experts" are not your friend if they're using their expertise to mislead you.

[Jostler]

anyway...til tomorrow.  The economic impacts of this thing will soon be in the news too.....Monday and China opening markets and currency exchanges will begin providing insight into a whole new consequence of this outbreak

 

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dropping this here so i can find it in the morning....    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2001468

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Before the onset of symptoms, he had attended meetings with a Chinese business partner at his company near Munich on January 20 and 21. The business partner, a Shanghai resident, had visited Germany between Jan. 19 and 22. During her stay, she had been well with no signs or symptoms of infection but had become ill on her flight back to China, where she tested positive for 2019-nCoV on January 26 (index patient in Figure 1).

On January 27, she informed the company about her illness. Contact tracing was started, and the above-mentioned colleague was sent to the Division of Infectious Diseases and Tropical Medicine in Munich for further assessment. At presentation, he was afebrile and well. He reported no previous or chronic illnesses and had no history of foreign travel within 14 days before the onset of symptoms. Two nasopharyngeal swabs and one sputum sample were obtained and were found to be positive for 2019-nCoV on quantitative reverse-transcriptase–polymerase-chain-reaction (qRT-PCR) assay.² Follow-up qRT-PCR assay revealed a high viral load of 10⁸ copies per milliliter in his sputum during the following days, with the last available result on January 29.

On January 28, three additional employees at the company tested positive for 2019-nCoV (Patients 2 through 4 in Figure 1). Of these patients, only Patient 2 had contact with the index patient; the other two patients had contact only with Patient 1. In accordance with the health authorities, all the patients with confirmed 2019-nCoV infection were admitted to a Munich infectious diseases unit for clinical monitoring and isolation. So far, none of the four confirmed patients show signs of severe clinical illness.

This case of 2019-nCoV infection was diagnosed in Germany and transmitted outside of Asia. However, it is notable that the infection appears to have been transmitted during the incubation period of the index patient, in whom the illness was brief and nonspecific.³

The fact that asymptomatic persons are potential sources of 2019-nCoV infection may warrant a reassessment of transmission dynamics of the current outbreak. In this context, the detection of 2019-nCoV and a high sputum viral load in a convalescent patient (Patient 1) arouse concern about prolonged shedding of 2019-nCoV after recovery. Yet, the viability of 2019-nCoV detected on qRT-PCR in this patient remains to be proved by means of viral culture.

fake news courtesy of the New England Journal of Medicine....and relevant.  I'll try to get a new thread organized so it's worth reading tomorrow...good night

 

Edited February 2, 2020 by Jostler

[simplejeff]

On 1/27/2020 at 7:15 PM, Jostler said:

you might want to study the difference between bacteria and viruses.....they're just a little different one to the other.  

Why?   It appears obvious the "study" of this world, professionals,  pharmakeia,  leads to serving the creation,  opposed to the Creator Himself ....  yes,   thus people are almost never finding out the truth about such things and even Yahweh's people "perish" for lack of knowledge (truth, experiential knowledge with Jesus, revealed by the Father from Heaven).

[Biblican]

We were talking about whether this virus was man-made, and I think I've come across some evidence that it is. There was an interview with a wihistleblower back in 2010 that is still on the internet. This is the link to the transcript of that interview. It is bone chilling. -http://projectavalon.net/lang/en/anglo_saxon_mission_interview_transcript_en.html