What does it mean that Jesus died for our sins?

[plo1988]

10 minutes ago, nzkev said:

Possibly, Who Do you say Jesus is, Do you think He rose from the dead

Can the conversation remain focused on what I'm asking about?

[Justin Adams]

Yeshua, God of gods came for three main purposes. 1) Reverse the death sentence via Adam and be an atonement for all our sins. 2) Reverse the watcher's devastating effect of the proliferation of evil on out planet. 3) Regather the scattered nations at Babel... the Pentecost outpouring.

Yeshua is God... He is our Redeemer, Brother, Lord and Master. The great I AM. He is from everlasting to everlasting...

Edited January 31, 2020 by Justin Adams

[JohnD]

15 hours ago, Lee_ said:

Does it just mean that Jesus took the punishment for our sins by dying for them?

Yep.

[missmuffet]

17 hours ago, Lee_ said:

Does it just mean that Jesus took the punishment for our sins by dying for them?

Yes

[LonerAndy]

18 hours ago, Lee_ said:

Does it just mean that Jesus took the punishment for our sins by dying for them?

Well.....  if you got a ticket for speeding, and I paid the price of your ticket, for your action of speeding.... that's what paying the price of another person's sin.

If you were sentenced to prison for armed robbery, and I went to prison in your place, so you could go free.. that's what it means.

If you murdered someone, and were sentenced to die, and I went to the electric chair in your place... that's what it means.

[johnthebaptist]

19 hours ago, Lee_ said:

Does it just mean that Jesus took the punishment for our sins by dying for them?

Yes.

[Desopixi Seilynam]

""Does it just mean that Jesus took the punishment for our sins by dying for them?""

He took the punishment for our sins, the death penalty. Also accomplished by His death, was the shedding forth of the Holy Spirit upon all flesh. Joel 2:28 [Acts 2:14-38]

Due to the death and resurrection of Christ, the Holy Spirit is available for all mankind to personally interact with. 

 

God is a conscious Spirit that just is and always was. He set apart a part of His Spirit, before creation, for the purpose of giving birth to and indwelling the physical Messiah, 

and for the purpose of indwelling all flesh who would believe in and hope for the Messiah.

 

[Alive]

On 1/31/2020 at 2:10 AM, Lee_ said:

I think there might be a misunderstanding here. I'm just asking the question I'm asking and seem to be getting answers that are kind of answering something I'm not asking and I guess sticking to what I was asking seemed like the best thing to do. Also I sort of misplaced a post and misread a post. Sorry for claiming that you were changing my question, nzkev.

What I'm asking is does Jesus "dying for our sins" mean anything other than that Jesus took the punishment for our sins by dying for them. Maybe if this were a real life conversation my question would get across better.

I read through several pages of this. I am not sure what you are looking for, but a thought occurs to me that may answer. The simplest thing 'other than' is it shows all of us and the entire Creation, just how much God loves us and how far He was willing to go to bring about a future eternity for us where there is no more sorrow, no sickness and no pain.

Check this stuff out. It may help you to generate additional questions.

https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/246175-a-problem-solved/

https://www.worthychristianforums.com/topic/247057-salvation-is-relocation/

[Resurrection Priest]

What does it mean?  Hmmmmm.

Jesus' Father - GOD - treated His own Son as a "sinner".  He turned His back on His only Son, while demons and humans were torturing Him.  Wow!

GOD sent a love letter - the greatest love message ever - by sending His own Son into this world.  He was saying, "This is how much I love you".   I put My own divine Son, who existed with Me from eternity, who actually created the earth you live on - through life as a human, walking dusty roads.  I allowed My own Son to be tortured by evil men and demons - just to show how much I love you.  

We are reconciled to God, when we see how much HE loves us.  When our hearts are broken by His love, that's when He can heal them.  And THAT is the salvation experience. 

Then there's the angle of the "dominion". 

Mankind was given "dominion" (rulership) of this earth - on condition of loyalty to the Creator.  That "dominion" had to be protected from Satan and his fallen angels, who were much more powerful than the humans.  Adam/Eve broke that loyalty.  God could no longer protect their rulership over the dominion he had given them.  Left unprotected - the humans fell under the rule of Satan and his army of fallen angels. 

To recover the earth FOR human beings, GOD needed a perfectly loyal man.  But there wasn't one.  Soooo.  The Son of God became a man.  He was perfectly loyal to His Father GOD, all the way to death by torture - in spite of everything they did to Him.  Because of what His Son did, GOD the Father could give dominion over the earth to HIS perfect man.  And Jesus will share that dominion with those who believe in Him. 

And there's the angle of "covenant".   By His perfect obedience to "the Law", Jesus fulfilled all the terms of "the Covenant" of Mount Sinai.  That meant Jesus could also receive the promises of that Covenant - "the land" - forever blessed by the LORD.  Daniel 7:14 is Jesus recovering the "dominion" of this earth.  That hasn't happened yet - but it will. 

Those are only a few of the meanings. 

[Resurrection Priest]

A lot of people wonder why executing the "good guy" makes any sense.  How could killing the "good guy" help the "bad guys"?  Why would GOD do that?  I mean, what kind of GOD do we have anyway?  Why have a "law" that says, "Someone has to die for this?  I'm going to execute someone.  I'll execute the good guy." ?

Is "sin" transferable?  Or was Jesus just giving "the last full measure" to accomplish something - like my rescue from death. 

If I don't "get" the message, am I still "forgiven"?  Was my sin just transferred to Him?  If so - then why do I get punished with death?  Didn't He pay for that?

Is "death" the penalty for sinning, or is it just the natural result of being separated from GOD (who is the continual source of life). 

Am I getting close to understanding your original question?