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41 minutes ago, Equippers said:

and as long as children have two loving parents, they should be fine.

But is that what happens in real life? Are all the children of two loving parents in their lives doing fine? what is the evidence of loving is it discipline? is it gift giving?  More? Less?

At some point ( a time of accountability reached) isn't every individual responsible for themself regardless of their "upbringing"? When does a person no longer have justification for their own shortfall by claiming  a tough upbringing?

Personal opinion is that it is wrong headed thinking to blame parents or grandparents or any authority  for one's plight in life. There comes a day one must assess self and take charge, be accountable, and drop the excuses altogether.

This is the time one can ask of God what do you want of me? How do I best serve you Lord? Help me to be the best bond-servant i can become in this body of flesh that I must fight against  with it's demanding that I excuse myself and sit and wallow in a pity party for my lifetime in the corruptible flesh.

There comes a time when one is challenged to run the race as though to win it. As The figure skating champion Scott Hamilton writes in his book of Christian encouragement Finish First winning changes everything.

Can't use excuses of any sort. Not parentage not economic situation. There is no glory in excuse. Can't glorify God by living in excuses. Not even the excuse of a funny  comic Tommy Smothers -  "Mom always loved you best".

Going down the trail looking for excuse is to go down the wrong pathway.


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9 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

But is that what happens in real life? Are all the children of two loving parents in their lives doing fine? what is the evidence of loving is it discipline? is it gift giving?  More? Less?

At some point ( a time of accountability reached) isn't every individual responsible for themself regardless of their "upbringing"? When does a person no longer have justification for their own shortfall by claiming  a tough upbringing?

Personal opinion is that it is wrong headed thinking to blame parents or grandparents or any authority  for one's plight in life. There comes a day one must assess self and take charge, be accountable, and drop the excuses altogether.

This is the time one can ask of God what do you want of me? How do I best serve you Lord? Help me to be the best bond-servant i can become in this body of flesh that I must fight against  with it's demanding that I excuse myself and sit and wallow in a pity party for my lifetime in the corruptible flesh.

There comes a time when one is challenged to run the race as though to win it. As The figure skating champion Scott Hamilton writes in his book of Christian encouragement Finish First winning changes everything.

Can't use excuses of any sort. Not parentage not economic situation. There is no glory in excuse. Can't glorify God by living in excuses. Not even the excuse of a funny  comic Tommy Smothers -  "Mom always loved you best".

Going down the trail looking for excuse is to go down the wrong pathway.

i think for a Christian, if one's life is not turning out the way one wants it, it is time to look up, ask God for help and trust Him instead of trusting one's own ability to change it.

that doesn't mean we don't need to work with God or forget we have our part to play, but ultimately God is our heavenly father, and He wants us to be completely rely on Him

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what is your relationship with your grandparents like?

58 minutes ago, Equippers said:

i am just curious in terms of what type of relationship people have with their grandparents

I loved my grandfather greatly. I would cry in bed thinking about his dying some day.
When I was about twelve, he would get me out of school and take me fishing at the coast in his boat he built.
Whole weekends spent fishing with him and his old friends, staying up late fishing, listening to their stories.
I was like the cabin boy, and slept on the life vest cushions in the boat. He died in 59.
My grandma was committed to her little baptist church, and took care of the nursery very many years.
She raised nine children, 8 boys and 1 girl. They raised about 5000 chickens, trained mules, and grew their own grain crops.
Great depression era heroes. She walked to church, about a mile, well  into  her seventies.
Both grandparents were a great influence upon my life. They did not show affection like many do today with words.
But their actions showed their love of their family.
I agree that each individual is responsible for their own actions. But, I am/was responsible to train my kids up, for their future.
Not everybody receives this advantage, as some are better equipped, as we all know.
It does make a difference.  I was blessed. (with a dozen grand kids)  Family is the bases of God's creation.

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both sets of grand parents were very close and I spent a lot of time with them in the summers growing up.

I would say that the only thing that my father's mother loved more than us were her cows..   she had a dairy and was very close to her cows  LOL

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4 hours ago, DDisconnect said:

One big happy family, eh?

It's what you decide to make it.
Most people are about as happy as they choose to be.
Let the bigger man take the first step.
Might discover a great treasure.
(I have greatly desired talking to my expired grandparents now as an adult)

 

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6 hours ago, Equippers said:

which category does it fall into

Never met them, They were all deceased when I came into the world. 


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I met my materal grandmother when she was very old and sick in a nursing home. I met my father's mother when she was also very old. I was very young when I met her. So I never did meet a grandmother and grandfather together.  


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Well, mine are all dead - I knew 3/4, close with only 1 - He passed when I was 9. 

I'll see him again one day, and we'll eat taco bell (his favorite) in the Kingdom. 


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I would say that on my mothers side they might as well be non existent.  She will not speak to us at all even though we have tried.  To her we do not exist anymore.   On my fathers side I have two grandmothers.   Although we are not very welcome there because we are Christians and are conservative.   I have an adopted grandmother who has no grand-kids as of yet and her son does not live near by.   She acts as my grandmother.  

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Posted
10 hours ago, Equippers said:

which category does it fall into

do they 

1 love you as much as your parents

2 love you more than they love your parents.

3 love you but not as much as they love your parents

or 

4 they don't love you at all

for mine maternal grandparents, they would probably fall into category 3, they love me but not as much as they love my mom.

I would have felt very badly had you said your maternal grandparents loved you more than their own daughter. How would you feel if you parents loved your kids more than you?

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