Jesus Teachings Don't Apply to Us Gentiles

[Eddy Crocker]

Yahweh is pure Spirit seen as a cloud in the Old Testament in the Tabernacle above the mercy seat of the ark. In that great and lofty state he couldn’t communicate with man so he came down out of that great and lofty form as Elohim which the Bible translates God. This was the only thing that Yahweh created the only begotten of the father. In this state he communicates as seen in scripture in divine dreams and visions. This coming out of pure spirit out of that great and lofty state as Yahweh in shape and form as Elohim was the true lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Through the state of Elohim the heavens and the earth were created. Yahweh was now restrIcted to a purpose to create and to be fruitful. Man followed the same pattern of Yahweh. Man had to suffer a death of his consciousness and be brought out of that great and lofty state in the garden. Man couldn’t be fruitful and multiply the earth until they came out of that lofty state. After women came out of man and left the garden after their fall then they could be fruitful. This is the same thing that happened when Yahweh came out of himself as Elohim and through that state he was fruitful and created the heavens and the earth. Yah means father or pattern which is masculine and weh means mother matter or material. The father is materialized through the feminine as matter into shape and form. Everything on earth is spirit materialized into matter from the father. Yahweh is both masculine and feminine. He separated himself into parts to bring about a plan and we followed that same pattern.

[JohnD]

Just now, Jedi4Yahweh said:

Yes, I did and then you add an addition question which i have not responded to until you answer mine.  

Jesus died spiritually is not an answer.

You could have just as well said he wore a fire chief hat to the cross.

Or had flowers in his hair...

You did not answer the question you made up an untrue response.

You lied.

And you want answers from me?

Waste of time.

 

 

[Jedi4Yahweh]

2 minutes ago, JohnD said:

Jesus died spiritually is not an answer.

You could have just as well said he wore a fire chief hat to the cross.

Or had flowers in his hair...

You did not answer the question you made up an untrue response.

You lied.

And you want answers from me?

Waste of time.

 

 

I gave you an answer just because you dont like it does not mean I did not answer you.

[Jedi4Yahweh]

3 hours ago, JohnD said:

Jesus died spiritually is not an answer.

You could have just as well said he wore a fire chief hat to the cross.

Or had flowers in his hair...

You did not answer the question you made up an untrue response.

You lied.

And you want answers from me?

Waste of time.

 

 

Okay explain what John meant when speaking by the Holy Spirit said:

Rev 13:8 NKJV - All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

How was Jesus able to forgive sin, heal the sick, set the captives free before the cross ever happened?

And then answer:  Are we as Christian to follow the teachings and commandments of Jesus?

Edited April 10, 2020 by Jedi4Yahweh

[frienduff thaylorde]

1 hour ago, BeauJangles said:

Jesus Teachings Don't Apply to Us Gentiles

Well, I suppose the parables fall into that category? Guess that takes a serious blow to how meaningful The Good Samaritan and The Prodigal Son was to me at one time. Hmm... Wonder if that also makes the gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John also not applicable to us either. I'm just a little disappointed to say the least.  

 

EVERYTHING OUR KING TAUGHT WAS PURE AND FOR ALL LAMBS .     YEP .   PRAISE THE KING my friend .   PRAISE THE HOLY KING JESUS . 

[Justin Adams]

And as far as the so called 'learned' amongst us, why did we replace the Passover with the good friday and Ishtar sun-day pagan myth? 

I have heard comments supposing some to be more 'spiritual' in this topic... so where did the Sabbath go??

Look up MIA TON SABBATON and see wherein much wrong has been done to our scriptures. The traditions of men have surpassed the doctrines of the apostles who DID observe the Passover as mentioned in the scriptures. In one gospel, the RCC KJV translator mentions 'easter' but we all know how that came about. All Babylonian and very OLD pagan stuff. And some say the KJV is perfect...HMM

Edited April 10, 2020 by Justin Adams

[Omegaman 3.0]

43 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

Look up MIA TON SABBATON and see wherein much wrong has been done to our scriptures.

Thanks for that, I did! Now I have a better understanding than I did previously, and it is good to know that translations have it right, when the say "on the first day of the week" (aka Sunday)!

[Justin Adams]

33 minutes ago, Omegaman 3.0 said:

Thanks for that, I did! Now I have a better understanding than I did previously, and it is good to know that translations have it right, when the say "on the first day of the week" (aka Sunday)!

It means ON THE FIRST OF THE SABBATHS as counted towards Pentecost. Your meaning is entirely incorrect.

Yeahua rose on the sabbath eve after exactly 72 hours in the gave as He said. No 'easter' or Ishtar and no sun-day resurrection. Nisan 14 thru 17. AD 32-33 depending on the moon cycle you look at. It has been one of the most gross antisemitic stances that the 'church' ever took a liberty with.

 

The greatest problem with this subject is the lack of knowledge as.doc

Edited April 10, 2020 by Justin Adams

[*Zion*]

12 hours ago, Alive said:

OK--so I was not at all coming from a hostile place. I care about you and everyone.

God made me to be one that wants to help and not hurt...please use that lens. Its good for you.

Then in future, please the lens of clarity.  If I tell you to be careful about what you say to me, you may very well take it the same way. 

Many things are good for me - and if you would have seen my words through the lens of trying to understand something, instead of trying to fan an argument or seeking to bash someone for their point of view just because it doesn't sit well with me - it would be very good for you too.

God bless you, my dear

[*Zion*]

12 hours ago, Jedi4Yahweh said:

This has been derailed from the original topic...just a bunch off topic bickering.

Indeed.  Many misunderstandings have occurred, and while some try to unpick the confusion, more pile in with their opinions on what they think is going on.  

I don't think you are asserting what the title of this states, but challenging it as a statement itself.  

The focus shifted from the Words of Jesus applying to Christians to the move of the Spirit among the gentiles testifying those words to us.

Next we pit the Holy Spirit against the Word of God, for some reason, as if the two PERSONS don't go hand in hand together as part of the Trinity.  

But why even assume such a ridiculous position?  Well

Now we come to: cessationists and the steering of post after post to this focal point; to 'demonstrate' arguments which are merely attacks by assumption upon assumption of what it is one must have meant and so on and so forth.  A lot of reading things the way one wants to, so that one can respond with a reply that has been well thought out and honed and shaped and extremely ready to hand before the answer is even given.

 

This has all been a great big: "By the way, I'm absolutely correct and if you don't agree then I shall simply put a label on you."

I agree with what you stated in your o.p, that the statement contained in the title of this thread is in complete error.

If we could all get back on track and take a proper look at what you so clearly laid out, I'd enjoy this discussion thoroughly.