Justin Adams Posted April 18, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 25 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 9,605 Content Per Day: 3.97 Reputation: 7,795 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted April 18, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, ForHisGlory37 said: Maybe we need to look at the Scriptures without the filters of preconceived and taught ideas of men Indeed. All the hype about rapture and 7 years and 70 weeks and 1000 years.. Just noises and some of it is allegorical and eastern hyperbole. We have to get into the mind of the writers and into the minds of the original readers to fully grasp it. It is NOT going to be pretty and of all the millions that have suffered horribly over the past many years, why do we think the modern western church is going to somehow not take part in the suffering? Ludicrous ideas meant to appease and make us feel secure in our humdrum lives. Many will lose faith over these 'promises' contained in silly books and even sillier preaching. Edited April 18, 2020 by Justin Adams 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted April 18, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,938 Content Per Day: 3.06 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Justin Adams said: Indeed. All the hype about rapture and 7 years and 70 weeks and 1000 years.. Just noises and some of it is allegorical and eastern hyperbole. We have to get into the mind of the writers and into the minds of the original readers to fully grasp it. It is NOT going to be pretty and of all the millions that have suffered horribly over the past many years, why do we think the modern western church is going to somehow not take part in the suffering? Ludicrous ideas meant to appease and make us feel secure in our humdrum lives. Many will lose faith over these 'promises' contained in silly books and even sillier preaching. The wise virgins shall be taken and the foolish virgins shall be left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Zion* Posted April 18, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 154 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,245 Content Per Day: 0.78 Reputation: 2,397 Days Won: 9 Joined: 12/09/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/11/1984 Share Posted April 18, 2020 I have always found this verse interesting: Matthew 24:22 And if those days [of tribulation] had not been cut short, no human life would be saved; but for the sake of the elect (God’s chosen ones) those days will be shortened. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Zion* Posted April 18, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 154 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,245 Content Per Day: 0.78 Reputation: 2,397 Days Won: 9 Joined: 12/09/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/11/1984 Share Posted April 18, 2020 I have always found this verse interesting: Matthew 24:22 And if those days [of tribulation] had not been cut short, no human life would be saved; but for the sake of the elect (God’s chosen ones) those days will be shortened. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alive Posted April 18, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 194 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 11,053 Content Per Day: 6.54 Reputation: 9,015 Days Won: 36 Joined: 09/12/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/09/1956 Share Posted April 18, 2020 Here is a question and something to ponder: assuming that the saints in Thessalonica new well what the 'Day of the Lord' meant and the things that would occur. how is it that Paul found it necessary to warn them that He hadn't come again and lay out what must happen first? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted April 18, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,128 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,856 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted April 18, 2020 13 hours ago, R. Hartono said: Why wud God bother to fetch the wise virgins if they r destined to die in the great Tribulation ? Why wud the foolish virgins yell ? Something bad is gonna happen to those left behind. I would just say that he's talking about his return and not any rapture..... the virgins after all were waiting for the groom to return.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Daze Posted April 18, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 4,011 Content Per Day: 1.12 Reputation: 2,519 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/17/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted April 18, 2020 16 hours ago, R. Hartono said: The great multitude Will see your soul appear under the altar Daze. Though its the place for the souls of foolish virgins left behind hope u can catch up anyway. Are u the kind of bridegroom who Let ur bride beaten black n blue before marriage. Are you greater than your Master? Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also. John 15:20 Hartono, pray that you might have the strength to make it through the time of great tribulation without succumbing to temptation and to stand before the Son of Man. There is no pretrib rapture entitlement for a privileged few. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonProfitProphet Posted April 18, 2020 Group: Members Followers: 3 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 26 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 16 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/15/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted April 18, 2020 10 hours ago, missmuffet said: True believers will not go through the 7 year tribulation. Revelation 3:10 I was a bit confused on what you were saying- you keep saying “true believers will not go through the tribulation,” but you have previously only followed that with unrelated scripture. Now you have something that seems to relate... What in Revelation 3:10 tells us we will not go through the tribulation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted April 18, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.80 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted April 18, 2020 14 minutes ago, NonProfitProphet said: I was a bit confused on what you were saying- you keep saying “true believers will not go through the tribulation,” but you have previously only followed that with unrelated scripture. Now you have something that seems to relate... What in Revelation 3:10 tells us we will not go through the tribulation? Read the verse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonProfitProphet Posted April 18, 2020 Group: Members Followers: 3 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 26 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 16 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/15/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted April 18, 2020 1 minute ago, missmuffet said: Read the verse. Wow! For someone who likes to share tons of scripture, you sure are being quite silent when someone asks for a specific perspective on a specific verse. I can read it a thousand times, but doing so will not tell me what you think. That’s all I asked for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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