Will we see an upswing in Covid-19 cases due to the protest and riots?

[leah777]

10 hours ago, OneLight said:

For many days I have watched how Covid-19 social distancing and stay at home suggestions have been completely ignored while people gather for both the protesting and late night rioting.  I began to wonder if we will begin to see a spike of new cases in a week or two because of this disregard for covid-19 warnings?

I think this shows the strength of feeling about racism.

People are prepared and willing to put their lives at serious risk to protest.

"Greater love hath no man......" John 15 v 13

Yesterday I saw a clip on the news of white Christians kneeling, in a large group, in front of their black neighbors, praying out loud for forgiveness for any racism they have shown. It was a powerful clip.

The outpouring of love is incredible. Over here it has done the Christians great good as it has opened up discussion about true Christianity and fake Christianity.

People are asking questions about why some are taking the covid risk. And about what the Bible really says. 

God uses all things for good

Romans 8 v 28

Genesis 50 v 20

[leah777]

Just now, Addy said:

I just looked up that clip... It is pouring rain out and the white people are kneeling at a barrier asking forgiveness for years and years of systematic racism... What a beautiful thing to see... THIS is the power of FORGIVENESS... and this is what is needed to move forward.

Is a different clip, sunshine and small community. No barrier. Just people kneeling and praying surrounded by black neighbors, many weeping in both black and white section.

Good this is happening more than one place. God is love.

[leah777]

24 minutes ago, Addy said:

Ok... I will continue looking as the one I saw seems to be taken at a protest.. as there was division of whites and blacks standing on opposite sides. @leah777

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8376907/White-people-pray-George-Floyds-hometown-Houston-ask-black-communitys-forgiveness.html

No barrier, looks like a playing field?

[BibleStudent100]

5 hours ago, wingnut- said:

Churches should have never closed their doors,

Wingnut, what are your thoughts about singing in a building, something very common in your church and in mine?  It is only logical that as we sing, we expel more droplet laden air that could be COVID infected into the room's atmosphere.  Additionally, physical spacing is virtually impossible in a church setting.  In my church, we are simply using remote conferencing software programs.  Thus, we still meet without having to run the risk of causing others in our physical vicinity to become ill.  I am reminded of the Israelites, who were commanded to build a safety parapet wall around their flat roofs to prevent accidents: "If you build a new house, you must also make a parapet for your roof, so that you may not bring bloodguilt on your house because of someone falling from it (Deuteronomy 22:8).
 

[Desopixi Seilynam]

It is likely that they will say that due to the riots/protests the "virus" is back with a vengeance and that we need to quarantine again.

And this time with the military on the streets.. because of the riots....

 

The paper money system is collapsing, and times are changing. Evil men seek to hide themselves and their schemes, and the evil one seeks to mask the end times.

 

[OneLight]

6 hours ago, wingnut- said:

 

Unless everyone intends to walk around in masks for the rest of their lives it really makes no difference, at some point we will all be exposed to it if it is as contagious as has been suggested.  Viruses don't just go away, once a person has been infected with a virus they will always be infected with it, and thereby can infect others with it.  For example, once an individual is HIV positive ( a well known virus), they are always HIV positive.  There are many viruses, which over time mutate into different strains and create new challenges.  While some viruses have been treatable over time, treatments only manage the symptoms of the virus for infected individuals, they are not cured.

Over time, medical researches fo find a cure for some viruses.  I had Hep-C and am now considered free of the virus.  Only God knows what is going to happen in these cases.

6 hours ago, wingnut- said:

This entire thing stinks of nothing more than a method of conditioning, and quite frankly the only thing alarming to me from the outset is how easily people fall into the panic mode and surrender their own freedoms without batting an eye.  Churches should have never closed their doors, businesses should have never been forced to shut down.  It is hard to fathom any circumstance in which healthy people need to be quarantined.

I am of the school of thought that not enough planning went into these closures.  What happened was a blanket resolve, treating everywhere the same.  Less populated areas were treated the same as the inner cities, but the spread levels are no where the same.  Fear is a tool used by those who desire control, and it has worked well for them as most people succumbed to the tactics used against them.  The only reason I used a mask is to quell the fear of others.  When they saw someone without a mask, you could see in their eyes the fear planted in their thoughts.  The masks only protected people from someone who was coughing or sneezing.  What virus was airborne could easily find their way around the gaps in the masks as they were not sealed to the face, so it was only a band-aid of sorts.

[OneLight]

4 hours ago, leah777 said:

I think this shows the strength of feeling about racism.

People are prepared and willing to put their lives at serious risk to protest.

"Greater love hath no man......" John 15 v 13

Racism knows no color.  You will find it in every ethnic group.  I noticed that most protestors were wearing masks, which was wise on their part as they were not keeping their "social distancing". 

4 hours ago, leah777 said:

Yesterday I saw a clip on the news of white Christians kneeling, in a large group, in front of their black neighbors, praying out loud for forgiveness for any racism they have shown. It was a powerful clip.

The outpouring of love is incredible. Over here it has done the Christians great good as it has opened up discussion about true Christianity and fake Christianity.

People are asking questions about why some are taking the covid risk. And about what the Bible really says. 

God uses all things for good

Romans 8 v 28

Genesis 50 v 20

If anyone has held racist thought or actions against another group, then yes, they should make it right.  Yet, if someone has not held such feelings or acted in such a way, what do they have to ask forgiveness for?  I do not agree that we are to be held guilty for something that happened hundreds of years before we were born.  I believe these actions derive more from forced guiltiness than from love, but let each person answer for their own actions. 

[OneLight]

4 hours ago, Addy said:

I just looked up that clip... It is pouring rain out and the white people are kneeling at a barrier asking forgiveness for years and years of systematic racism... What a beautiful thing to see... THIS is the power of FORGIVENESS... and this is what is needed to move forward.

Matthew 5:9

Blessed are the peacemakers, For they shall be called sons of God.

Trying to seek peace is a beautiful sight to see.

[JTC]

19 hours ago, OneLight said:

For many days I have watched how Covid-19 social distancing and stay at home suggestions have been completely ignored while people gather for both the protesting and late night rioting.  I began to wonder if we will begin to see a spike of new cases in a week or two because of this disregard for covid-19 warnings?

I think we're all wondering this. If we don't see an increase in cases in the next month we're going to be asking why not. I know some doctors had hoped that Covid-19 would go dormant for the summer, so that would be my first guess. But I hope God is answering our prayers and taking this virus away.

[wingnut-]

On 6/3/2020 at 8:48 AM, BibleStudent100 said:

Wingnut, what are your thoughts about singing in a building, something very common in your church and in mine?

 

Worship is at the heart of the gathering, so I'm all for it.

 

On 6/3/2020 at 8:48 AM, BibleStudent100 said:

I am reminded of the Israelites, who were commanded to build a safety parapet wall around their flat roofs to prevent accidents:

 

No clue how you equate a railing designed to keep people from falling off a roof to an illness, seems like a stretch to me.  Personally the only scripture even comparable to this type of circumstance that comes to my mind would be found in the instructions of Leviticus.

 

On 6/3/2020 at 8:48 AM, BibleStudent100 said:

Additionally, physical spacing is virtually impossible in a church setting.  In my church, we are simply using remote conferencing software programs.  Thus, we still meet without having to run the risk of causing others in our physical vicinity to become ill. 

 

II Timothy 1:6 For this reason I remind you to fan into flame the gift of God, which is in you through the laying on of my hands, 7 for God gave us a spirit not of fear but of power and love and self-control.

 

I don't know about anyone else, but I know I wasn't given a spirit of fear, and I think that's at the heart of this.  The story of my life is already written, and I trust the one who authored it in regards to my well being.  If it is God's plan for me to die of the coronavirus, then that is exactly how I am going to die, and I'm fine with that.  This is why I don't think about the odds of death by car accident every time I get in a car, (which by the way, is exponentially more likely than dying from coronavirus), and it is also why I don't cower in fear during flu season (which by the way, would be about 4 times more likely to claim my life than the coronavirus).  If people are going to hide away from each other behind closed doors, holding everyone at arm's length for the rest of their days, they really aren't living anymore anyway.