Will Christians who don't fully obey the bible go to heaven?

[Wayne222]

2 hours ago, Justin Adams said:

Explain this for the readers that happen to come along. Make sure you are precise.

Sure 1 john says if we are born again we cannot remain in sin. Because the seed of God remains in us. If we live in unrighteousness then we are the children of the devil and not children of God. That's refers to those who live in sin as a way. And dont feel remorse for sins. But we the children of God must turn from sins and confess when we fall in any. God can and will keep us from falling away.

[JTC]

12 hours ago, Ineedhugs said:

You know the bible says to repent of your sins, to be blameless before the lord, to be perfect as God is perfect, to be holy as God is holy etc

I see the vast majority of Christians don't fully obey the commands in the bible. For example in Ephesians Paul says that there shouldn't be any unwholesome talk or course joking among Christians because we are Gods holy people. Nor should there be any impurity, sexual immorality or greed. I was hanging out with about 10 young adults from church the other day and man, was it course joking galore. They also take Gods name in vain which is one of the 10 commandments. You know saying omg instead of oh my gosh. 

I have known Christians that swear to. Will these Christians go to heaven? They are not repenting of all their sins. I follow the bible 100% as is intended but i'm concerned about the majority of Christians that don't cos these are direct commands and to disobey is sin. I think that the problem is not enough bible reading and their opinion is corrupted by the worlds standards and Gods standard, the bible, is a weak voice in their head cos they neglect bible reading. 

Are they in danger of hell? What you think?

These are good questions and good points you've made here. I agree with you. I will only disagree in terms of the extent that a person is able to obey. Some people will succeed in a greater obedience than others but as long as each of us are doing our best to be pleasing to the Lord then I think we are okay.

I think there are many Christians out there who think obedience is important but since others don't, they think maybe they are wrong, and since it's easier to not obey the Lord they do not. But these same Christians never feel quite right in what they do, and they certainly don't have peace. I tend to think these Christians will be in heaven but they will have to suffer for what they did. God doesn't really explain this thoroughly but see 1 Corinthians ch.3 for what God does say.

Ineedhugs, you're going to get a lot of disagreement, in your life from others because you see that God wants us to live as sin free as possible, but stick to your guns. We are right.

[Wesley L]

13 hours ago, Ineedhugs said:

You know the bible says to repent of your sins, to be blameless before the lord, to be perfect as God is perfect, to be holy as God is holy etc

I see the vast majority of Christians don't fully obey the commands in the bible. For example in Ephesians Paul says that there shouldn't be any unwholesome talk or course joking among Christians because we are Gods holy people. Nor should there be any impurity, sexual immorality or greed. I was hanging out with about 10 young adults from church the other day and man, was it course joking galore. They also take Gods name in vain which is one of the 10 commandments. You know saying omg instead of oh my gosh. 

I have known Christians that swear to. Will these Christians go to heaven? They are not repenting of all their sins. I follow the bible 100% as is intended but i'm concerned about the majority of Christians that don't cos these are direct commands and to disobey is sin. I think that the problem is not enough bible reading and their opinion is corrupted by the worlds standards and Gods standard, the bible, is a weak voice in their head cos they neglect bible reading. 

Are they in danger of hell? What you think?

Personally I think it is great that you are aware of what you see and questioning things. Searching for the truth. Bible tells us to test everything and keep which is good.
I believe the bible is the inspired words of God, by God, teaching us the truth.
Secondly, all born again Christians have received the Helper, The Holy Spirit. Who testifies to our spirit our salvation. Who convicts us when we sin. Who shows us the truth. Who guides us to be in truth and in spirit. I believe when reading a false translation of a certain bible, the Holy Spirit will guide us as well.

Having said that. In the lives of any true born again believer, there should be some trace of the Holy Spirit to be found. The fruits of the spirit, the sanctification process, the conviction of the spirit, the growing hunger for truth and righteousness, the incomprehensible peace. The seriousness towards our Lord Almighty.

As you already said, nobody is without sin, even after being born again we still can sin.
So, what I have understood is that we can't perfectly see whether a blaspheming "Christian" is truly saved or a false convert. God knows.
But if we know that person well, we could possible see or not see the fruits he is carrying. And kindly reminding them that they are sinning would be an act of love, if done the right way. (with compassion and kindness) 

Not warning a sinning brother, I personally would see that as an act of ignorance and even an act of evil. Seeing someone possibly dying but not daring to help. (The parable of the Samaritan) As your way towards him will show you how your faith is towards God, his reaction towards your warning will give you a clearer view whether that person is truly in Christ or not.

Proverbs 9:7-9
7 He who corrects a scoffer gets dishonor for himself, And he who reproves a wicked man gets insults for himself.
8 Do not reprove a scoffer, or he will hate you, Reprove a wise man and he will love you.
9 Give instruction to a wise man and he will be still wiser, Teach a righteous man and he will increase his learning.

Q:"Will Christians who don't fully obey the bible go to heaven"
A: Yes, if they are in true faith.
(Actually all born again Christians who are in true faith don't fully obey the bible, as we are still in the flesh. But people who call themselves Christians without any traces of the Holy Spirit mentioned above, they should really do a spiritual checkup on themselves whether they are truly in faith.)

Edited June 21, 2020 by Wesley L
answering topic question

[David1701]

1 hour ago, OneLight said:

Since Jesus brought me back from the dead, I have full faith in Him.  If you look at Ephesians close enough you will see that we are saved by grace, through faith.  Without faith for grace to work through, can one be saved?

Your horse is pushing the cart...

Faith is a grace-gift from God, to whom He will.  He does not give us grace because of our faith; rather, we have faith because of his grace to us and it is through that faith that God gives us the blessings of salvation.

[justme007]

14 hours ago, Ineedhugs said:

You know the bible says to repent of your sins, to be blameless before the lord, to be perfect as God is perfect, to be holy as God is holy etc

I see the vast majority of Christians don't fully obey the commands in the bible. For example in Ephesians Paul says that there shouldn't be any unwholesome talk or course joking among Christians because we are Gods holy people. Nor should there be any impurity, sexual immorality or greed. I was hanging out with about 10 young adults from church the other day and man, was it course joking galore. They also take Gods name in vain which is one of the 10 commandments. You know saying omg instead of oh my gosh. 

I have known Christians that swear to. Will these Christians go to heaven? They are not repenting of all their sins. I follow the bible 100% as is intended but i'm concerned about the majority of Christians that don't cos these are direct commands and to disobey is sin. I think that the problem is not enough bible reading and their opinion is corrupted by the worlds standards and Gods standard, the bible, is a weak voice in their head cos they neglect bible reading. 

Are they in danger of hell? What you think?

1. Having studied THE BIBLE very thoroughly, i believe that no one is in danger of hell, as the mainstream preachers teach it. Yes, we are all in danger of everything listed in Deuteronomy 28. Yes we may be in danger of impreasonment, described in 1 Peter 3:18-22. But everyone will be SAVED!!!! Because: 

A) Romans 10:9 --> Philippians 2:10-11

B) 1 Timothy 4:10

There are a lot more BIBLICAL evidence, as well as ways to disprove the mainstream preachers.

2) about Christians commiting sins: I don't want to judge anyone, what can I say, just look at the Psalm 62, Romans Chapter 3, Job 25:6 and a lot more. 

[missmuffet]

3 minutes ago, justme007 said:

1. Having studied THE BIBLE very thoroughly, i believe that no one is in danger of hell, as the mainstream preachers teach it. Yes, we are all in danger of everything listed in Deuteronomy 28. Yes we may be in danger of impreasonment, described in 1 Peter 3:18-22. But everyone will be SAVED!!!! Because: 

A) Romans 10:9 --> Philippians 2:10-11

B) 1 Timothy 4:10

There are a lot more BIBLICAL evidence, as well as ways to disprove the mainstream preachers.

2) about Christians commiting sins: I don't want to judge anyone, what can I say, just look at the Psalm 62, Romans Chapter 3, Job 25:6 and a lot more. 

Unbelievers are in danger of hell. You say that you have studied the Bible thoughly and you know that is what the Bible teaches. 

[Sower]

Will Christians who don't fully obey the bible go to heaven?
 

Every "Christian' (born again believer) has been adopted into the family of God, and goes to heaven.
Every "Christian' (born again believer) will sin, and go to heaven.
Some sin more/less than others. Every sin has been paid for (believers).
I worry about my own sins, not others.
Some day, we will all stand before God to receive, our due.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Heleadethme]

14 hours ago, Ineedhugs said:

You know the bible says to repent of your sins, to be blameless before the lord, to be perfect as God is perfect, to be holy as God is holy etc

I see the vast majority of Christians don't fully obey the commands in the bible. For example in Ephesians Paul says that there shouldn't be any unwholesome talk or course joking among Christians because we are Gods holy people. Nor should there be any impurity, sexual immorality or greed. I was hanging out with about 10 young adults from church the other day and man, was it course joking galore. They also take Gods name in vain which is one of the 10 commandments. You know saying omg instead of oh my gosh. 

I have known Christians that swear to. Will these Christians go to heaven? They are not repenting of all their sins. I follow the bible 100% as is intended but i'm concerned about the majority of Christians that don't cos these are direct commands and to disobey is sin. I think that the problem is not enough bible reading and their opinion is corrupted by the worlds standards and Gods standard, the bible, is a weak voice in their head cos they neglect bible reading. 

Are they in danger of hell? What you think?

It sounds like those young adults are not born again.  Not all churchgoers are born again.  There are many nominal or cultural churchgoers who don't know the Lord.  A believer  might slip up or forget themselves (and feel remorseful about it), but there is an overall pattern in general of clean living if someone is born of God.

[justme007]

3 hours ago, missmuffet said:

Unbelievers are in danger of hell. You say that you have studied the Bible thoughly and you know that is what the Bible teaches. 

i gave you the BIBLICAL evidence

[OneLight]

3 hours ago, David1701 said:

Your horse is pushing the cart...

Faith is a grace-gift from God, to whom He will.  He does not give us grace because of our faith; rather, we have faith because of his grace to us and it is through that faith that God gives us the blessings of salvation.

I believe God created each person with enough belief that there is a God to entice them to seek Him, enough to start the search to answer the little nagging interest we have as kids.  The more we learn about God, the more our faith grows.  When we finally come to the point of salvation, His grace works through the faith He gave us to build upon to create the relationship He desires to have with us.  There is no horse and cart in this, just God and His creation.