Can satan and other demons take on a human form and live among us?

[Hobie_]

On 10/5/2020 at 6:51 PM, TheBlade said:

"Can satan and other demons take on a human form and live among us?"

I do not believe Satan or any other fallen angel can. Well first their body has not changed its still the way God made it and everything He gave each angel they still have. They are far superior (bodies)  to ours. How they would leave their body to jump into you or me lol..yeah does not happen. Now demons from what I know have no body always looking for a home. Are around us every day. The "I don't believe" makes some people feel better yet changes nothing. As long as one doubts they are happy. Christ gave us all authority over the enemy and nothing shall by any means hurt us.

The key here is KNOWING your authority. One would like to believe we all know it..no I truly believe most believers have no clue just WHO WHAT they are in Christ Jesus. Its ALWAYS Him.. His power.

Do angels appear to men and walk among them.... They are also angels, just fallen ones...

[other one]

demons are not fallen angels, they are the disembodied spirits of the dead Nephilim and their bodies were destroyed in the flood.  They do roam around looking for something to inhabit.  

[Alive]

25 minutes ago, other one said:

demons are not fallen angels, they are the disembodied spirits of the dead Nephilim and their bodies were destroyed in the flood.  They do roam around looking for something to inhabit.  

My guess is that they are fully employed and not wandering too much.

:-)

[Omegaman 3.0]

28 minutes ago, other one said:

demons are not fallen angels, they are the disembodied spirits of the dead Nephilim and their bodies were destroyed in the flood.  They do roam around looking for something to inhabit.  

While as far as I know, the Bible does not explicitly say what the origin of demons is (if this is true then they could be fallen angels), I sure don't see where it says they are the spirits of the Nephilim either.

[adamjedgar]

36 minutes ago, other one said:

demons are not fallen angels, they are the disembodied spirits of the dead Nephilim and their bodies were destroyed in the flood.  They do roam around looking for something to inhabit.  

That doesn't even make any sense.

[other one]

2 hours ago, Omegaman 3.0 said:

While as far as I know, the Bible does not explicitly say what the origin of demons is (if this is true then they could be fallen angels), I sure don't see where it says they are the spirits of the Nephilim either.

if you have been where I have all you have to do is ask them.

[adamjedgar]

24 minutes ago, other one said:

if you have been where I have all you have to do is ask them.

and you use that for your theory that demons are disembodied spirits? 

Can i ask you to define what a spirit is?

Can i ask you to define what an angel is?

then please explain the difference between the above two?

finally, explain what an "embodied" spirit looks like in its invisible form?

 

what you are presenting is a circular reasoning that is self defeating! A disembodied spirit and a spirit are exactly the same thing...and it does not matter whether evil or good!

Finally, there is the often made claim, and its false and also non biblical, that nephilim are fallen angels...or offspring of fallen angels. Unfortunately, this is in direct contrast with the bible story about why God made man different from the Angels...angels cannot procreate but man and animals can! (i have had this discussion at great length on other forums before...and proven it so many times it would need to start a new thread to be honest). 

Here is a short problem with the theory about Nephilim being fallen angels or their offspring...

1. the claim is, the physical size came about because they are born of angel genome

2. God sent the flood to wipe them and their offspring out because they are an abomination to him

 

if the above is true, please explain the following...

sons of Anak who lived in the land of Canaan many many centuries AFTER THE FLOOD supposedly killed all of them out. We know they were most certainly NOT in the ark with Noah and his sons or wives!

Goliah of Gath...a giant in the philistine camp...who was also related to the sons of Anak!

If God stopped all this "fallen angel procreating with earthly women" nonsense at the flood, how do you then explain the continued existence of giants long after the flood?

What i am now going to hear from proponents of this ridiculous theory is the following... "oh the flood wasnt a global one!" Once we believe the flood was not global, the bible starts to be unravelled at every turn where there are inconsistencies...such as the young earth doctrine...evolution must now be true, the earth is millions of years old! (see how the acceptance of very poorly supported bible heresies, such as Nephilim are fallen angels or their offspring, force the adoption of other false doctrines!)

 

The bible goes to great lengths to explain to God's people the dangers of unequal yoking (marrying outside ones faith). Indeed many Christian churches today even maintain this line in their own fundamental doctrines...some wont even marry members where one is outside the faith! 

1Now when men began to multiply on the face of the earth and daughters were born to them, 2the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they took as wives whomever they chose.

3So the LORD said, “My Spirit will not contend with man forever,a for he is mortal; his days shall be 120 years.”

4The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and afterward as well—when the sons of God had relations with the daughters of men. And they bore them children who became the mighty men of old, men of renown.

 

The sons of God are the sons of Seth...they were holy people who worshipped God and did not forsake him as did the sons of Cain!

The offspring to this unholy alliance, the unequal yoking of holy and unholy in marriage, were an abomination to God's people and the way of life he wished for them...it continues to be thus even today. We should never marry outside our faith!

 

To God, marriage is the most sacred bond between human beings...it is considered as sacred as our bond to our creator. The bounding of evil and holy is not acceptable to God and if one was to look at the world around, there are numerous very sad stories that have arisen as a result of this unequal yoking between christian and non christian...evil has a far greater tendency to corrupt than Good i think...the end of this world i think will also be dependant on how bad the corruption gets just as much as "spreading the gospel to the whole world"!

 

One has to tread very carefully in taking for granted that age old historical wives tales about the Nephilim, presented to us by catholicism, is bible truth. It is not! Its very important when developing bible doctrine to ensure that one does not then need to start explaining away other "self evident bible truths" in order to maintain that false one! 

 

Edited December 18, 2021 by adamjedgar

[other one]

I think it's obvious that the same thing happened after the flood.   But not enough to corrupt the whole world.

Partly why Israel was to totally destroy everything that drew breath when they moved into Canaan areas.

[Reinitin]

5 hours ago, Alive said:

My guess is that they are fully employed and not wandering too much.

:-)

Ha you are nicer then me. I was thinking alot of them are very comfortable siting in some churches. 

[Omegaman 3.0]

5 hours ago, other one said:

if you have been where I have all you have to do is ask them.

I am not inclined to want to converse with demons, and if they were to talk to me, I have no reason to trust what they say!