What does it take to conquer the world?

[TheBlade]

I know its not the same but going with this God " I have told you these things, so that in Me you may have [perfect] peace. In the world you have tribulation and distress and suffering, but be courageous [be confident, be undaunted, be filled with joy]; I have overcome the world.” [My conquest is accomplished, My victory abiding."

[DeighAnn]

2 hours ago, JohnD said:

Things I've warned people about for decades... people whose eyes glazed over obviously

unconvinced no matter how I backed up my claims... wondering when I would shut up and

stop carrying on about this...

The same people who scream at the TV and computer and phone today who wonder why

I am no longer so adamant about everything...

I tell them  I got it out of my system decades ago when 

we stood a chance of getting ahead of this.

Have I given in?

Am I defeatist now?

No.

Anyone who reads my posts (especially in the U.S. Politics section)

can clearly see neither is true.

I'm just matter-of-fact about it.

The Lord can still do miracles.

Will he?

I don't know.

But it's well past what we could have done about it.

That could be the best news though, because that's when God

tends to intervene the most. ← when it's clearly God that did something

and we cannot take credit for it

I think our job comes down to
Luke 12:49 I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?

[enoob57]

God tells us: He will completely burn up the old heaven and earth and make a completely new heaven and earth and remove all knowledge of the first...

[JohnD]

5 minutes ago, enoob57 said:

God tells us: He will completely burn up the old heaven and earth and make a completely new heaven and earth and remove all knowledge of the first...

Amen.

But that does not excuse us from our duty to

tend to / defend this one.

 

[enoob57]

Just now, JohnD said:

Amen.

But that does not excuse us from our duty to

tend to / defend this one.

 

Best I am to understand John my defense is to be of His Word
Jude 3

3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
KJV
 

[other one]

4 hours ago, enoob57 said:

God tells us: He will completely burn up the old heaven and earth and make a completely new heaven and earth and remove all knowledge of the first...

do you think, if I asked, he'd let me strike the match for it?

 

[Michael37]

On 1/9/2021 at 6:47 PM, DeighAnn said:

Don't suppose you have something written that is a bit more simplistic or maybe something with short explanations as how it relates? 

@DeighAnn Continuing with a short explanation of the 10 parts of the theoretical hierarchy of control that I introduced earlier in this thread, having commented on Mediology as the top priority here are some thoughts about the next tier down:

• TECHNOLOGY & IDEOLOGY

We are consumers of technology. The Industrial Revolution and the advent of Mass Production paved the way for Information Technology to become the prized commodity it is today, and now the race is on to make Artificial Intelligence just as accepted and accessible to the masses as the numerous labour-saving and lifestyle-enhancing inventions and devices that many of us take for granted.

The reticulation of hot & cold running water, sewerage and wastewater, electricity and gas, telephone and internet, plus the improvements in transport and travel, medicine and health, food technology, and so on, are examples of what is possible when ideas become realities.

The ideologies behind research and development have one thing in common, the belief that there is merit in making improvements, but the problem of who decides what is best and for whom is at the very heart of the relationship between technology and ideology, especially when these are both inclined towards weaponising and warfare. 

Ironically the improvements in technology that came with the expansion of the Greek and Roman Empires also enabled the Gospel to spread. Establishment of roads and settlements along with more education in languages and communication made spreading Christianity to the uttermost parts of the world logistically less of a challenge for early Christians than it would have been without the benefits of these.

The same is true today. Modern technology makes it possible for ideologies to be delivered virtually on demand, but the need for control in this respect is becoming more and more evident.

In Revelation 13 we find just how much control of technology and ideology will eventuate, and who the controlling parties will be. Seen here in metaphorical vision mode, the satanically empowered infrastructure of unrighteous humanity is portrayed as capable of stamping out its opposition, and as weaponised with claws to rip apart any who would come against it, having feet like those of a bear.

Rev 13:2  And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

Many tyrannical regimes require nothing less than the complete devotion and adoration of those they indoctrinate and subjugate, and we see this here:

Rev 13:4  And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

Rev 13:8  And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

What technologies are employed in creating and animating the image of the beast, and in applying and administering the mark of the beast, are the subject of much speculation, but it is obvious that tyranny is involved.

Rev 13:15-17  And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.  (16)  And he causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:  (17)  And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

[To be Continued: Next, Corruption, Deception, Exploitation]

[Who me]

On 1/9/2021 at 4:06 AM, DeighAnn said:

The way you worded the question made me feel funny, so a bit of explanation as to why I asked it felt in order.  Just sitting around pondering on Gods Plan from a spiritual perspective..

 

May I suggest you read some history, maybe history of Christianity.

Have you any idea of the nature of the Roman world that Christians were living in ?

 

It as not Christian, strange today's world is not Christian. They faced discrimination, loss of employment, being robbed of possessions, strange Christians face these threats today in the west, yes even in America.

Paul wrote to those facing perscution about these ' light and momentary troubles '

 

What does God want from all Christians. Simple to show that they Love him by how they live.

 

[Logostician]

It takes Jesus to conquer this world, and the prince of this world.  An when he returns on a white horse, wearing many crowns, he will defeat everyone who opposes him, and reign openly forever.  You can call it conquering or just claiming what has always been his.  He is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords.  There is no other.  Every knee will bow to him.  Even those who have chosen the lake of fire will acknowledge his power.  And this will be the destiny of people who seek power through any means in this world without acknowledging the ultimate power of Jesus Christ.

[DeighAnn]

On 1/12/2021 at 2:30 AM, Who me said:

 

May I suggest you read some history, maybe history of Christianity.

Have you any idea of the nature of the Roman world that Christians were living in ?

 

It as not Christian, strange today's world is not Christian. They faced discrimination, loss of employment, being robbed of possessions, strange Christians face these threats today in the west, yes even in America.

Paul wrote to those facing perscution about these ' light and momentary troubles '

 

What does God want from all Christians. Simple to show that they Love him by how they live.

 

Which part would you like to discuss?  

Though for me, I think Roman Candles pretty much covers the atmosphere of the nights and crucifixions, prison, and being fed to the lions, the day.

If I were to study history, besides learning some of the specifics of the HOWs and the WHOs, would I learn more?   I do my best to follow the instructions given .  I prefer to spend my mind-time there rather than filling it with the specific details of just how evil evil can be as I walk through the valley of the shadow of death.  I feel I give a decent run through of the events taking place in the world around me to know what time it is, but I don't live in that world.  I do what I can in the world around me and suffer and learn from the trials and tribulations that come my way while I strive to  walk more worthy and mature in Gods Way. I want to BE mature by the time I arrive where God wills me, be it on earth or in heaven.  When I think about the only thing I can take with me, Gods Word that endures forever and put that together with reigning with Christ as priests and judges for the Lords Day, I don't find that I really have time to study more of this earths history, I am barely scratching the surface of what God has told me to study,  not to mention we won't be remembering any of it at some point.  

(One of the funniest things to me is the deeper I go into Gods Truth, the deeper I realize it is, the more aware I become of how little I know and I know when I learn more I will also learn there is even more to learn.  It is a world eternal, not the life of a blade of grass, in other words, once The Word has captured you, that is when you really start living, IMHO)


Romans 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

Romans 8:36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

Romans 8:37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him that loved us.
 

James 1:2 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;

James 1:3 Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.

James 1:4 But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.

 

I don't know what you mean by 'strange' Christians?