Who is the anti-christ?

[David1701]

15 minutes ago, JohnD said:

Jesus made the point however...

John 5:43 (AV)
43 I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

He was speaking top Jews.

Would Jews be willing to accept a Pope? 

Not in the past; but, more recent ones have been more conciliatory.

[JohnD]

8 minutes ago, Ozarkbound said:

I have read a lot of your work and enjoyed it.

Thank you. High praise indeed.

[JohnD]

9 minutes ago, David1701 said:

Not in the past; but, more recent ones have been more conciliatory.

Uh, I see your point. There are many Jewish people coming to faith in Yeshua... more it seems than in time past.

But there remains a resistance to the one thing  they are taught that is antithetical to Judaism: believing in Jesus. 

So I doubt the Jews in the last days will accept a pope they've rejected for the last 11 centuries. 

[1to3]

From what I understand of Holy scripture from the Holy Bible, is that everything God does, satan tries to steal, kill and destroy it. satan comes as an angel of light and tries to tempt us by our pride away from God

And satan comes always as a counterfeit of who God is.

God: the Father , Son , Holy Spirit.

satan: the false father, the man of perdition,the beast system, the U.N. the false dove of peace, allowing the Beast AI system to be integrated everywhere and into everything thing, making or trying to make everything from Gods creation a hybrid, owned by the patent owner.

It looks like the beast system is being set up now to receive the man of perdition.

 

The false prophet could be the pope? from the Jesuit order, the order of the Templar that is worldwide, and included in this order are Jews and Muslims.

We need to pay close attention to what they are doing in Israel.

The coming and joining of all religions into ONE

The building of a third temple . The sanhidran Jews have already begun the sacrifice of animals.

The Noahide laws are coming into effect, this one day will allow for the beheading to be allowed.

From looking at what is happening, I see that they have used the construct of the plans of the old temples to create and design the computer chips sets they now use for quantum computing that is now running the AI system.

There is the Temple of God that Christ Jesus has told us He is and lives also in the redeemed believer. The body temple of the redeemed in Christ belongs to God

And than there is the man made temple that represents the false temple.

It will be perhaps the temple the sanhidran Jews are looking to build. Apparently they have most everything already prepared.

However scripture   tells us that the man of perdition will overthrow any religious order , will put a stop to the daily sacrifice of animals and and will demand to be worshiped alone as the One God of FORCES.  To me it looks like he will do it through the  AI system

The man of perdition will make himself known by entering the temple, the the false man made religious temple, and will also use the construct of the Beast  AI system to invade the souls of all those who accept his mark in them.

I feel that the new mRNA vaccines they are trying to get all of us all to take, in them are the elements used as an interior scaffolding system into our bodies, preparing  the mRNAvaccinated bodies to one day be joined and be one fully with the AI Beast system, allowing the man of perdition fuller control of his shattel possessing them complete,  through them being connected to His AI beast system= the internet of things, (man mixing with machine)making them unrecognizable to God for ever.

For now no one seems to know who that man of perdition is for certain.

 

 

 

 

Edited March 7, 2021 by 1to3

[johnthebaptist]

6 hours ago, JohnD said:

For the sake of argument, those who believe the antichrist is a system or religion please refrain from derailing this discussion.

IF (notice I said if for your sakes) the antichrist is an actual person as I believe the Bible teaches (and identifies)... then who is it?

It seems to me the most powerful evil of all in our world is pride. Remember when Satan kept telling Jesus to bow down to him? I would view prideful people as the anti-christ, as they make life miserable for others.

[David1701]

3 hours ago, JohnD said:

Uh, I see your point. There are many Jewish people coming to faith in Yeshua... more it seems than in time past.

But there remains a resistance to the one thing  they are taught that is antithetical to Judaism: believing in Jesus. 

So I doubt the Jews in the last days will accept a pope they've rejected for the last 11 centuries. 

Nowadays, Roman Catholicism teaches that you can be saved, while staying in your religion (Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, even atheism, etc.), as long as you acknowledge the primacy of the "Pope" and live according to the "light" that you supposedly have.  Many non-Christians would be willing to accept this (and many professing Christians).  This "Pope" is calling for world religions to co-operate and tolerate each other.

I could see many Jews accepting this kind of setup.  They don't have to forsake Judaism, or believe in Jesus, they just have to acknowledge the primacy of the "Pope".  Many could be willing to accept a kind of leadership from him, without believing Roman Catholicism.

[other one]

10 hours ago, JohnD said:

For the sake of argument, those who believe the antichrist is a system or religion please refrain from derailing this discussion.

IF (notice I said if for your sakes) the antichrist is an actual person as I believe the Bible teaches (and identifies)... then who is it?

I personally would have look to the book of Revelation to know that, and antichrist is not used for any of the great powers there.   If he/it is the second beast that was and was not but comes back from the abyss (pit), I do believe that the entity will be one of the fallen watcher angels that was imprisoned there several thousand years ago.  Mainly because I don't know of any others in Tartarus (pit).   All the powers of Satan will be given to that entity.

[other one]

10 hours ago, JohnD said:

For the sake of argument, those who believe the antichrist is a system or religion please refrain from derailing this discussion.

IF (notice I said if for your sakes) the antichrist is an actual person as I believe the Bible teaches (and identifies)... then who is it?

I personally would have look to the book of Revelation to know that, and antichrist is not used for any of the great powers there.   If he/it is the second beast that was and was not but comes back from the abyss (pit), I do believe that the entity will be one of the fallen watcher angels that was imprisoned there several thousand years ago.  Mainly because I don't know of any others in Tartarus (pit).   All the powers of Satan will be given to that entity.

[JohnD]

3 hours ago, David1701 said:

Nowadays, Roman Catholicism teaches that you can be saved, while staying in your religion (Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, even atheism, etc.), as long as you acknowledge the primacy of the "Pope" and live according to the "light" that you supposedly have.  Many non-Christians would be willing to accept this (and many professing Christians).  This "Pope" is calling for world religions to co-operate and tolerate each other.

I could see many Jews accepting this kind of setup.  They don't have to forsake Judaism, or believe in Jesus, they just have to acknowledge the primacy of the "Pope".  Many could be willing to accept a kind of leadership from him, without believing Roman Catholicism.

1 John 2:18 (AV)
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

I studied Dave Hunt's material on the subject and as I said the ultimate antichrist may be crowned as pope in addition to the rest of the god titles he will bestow upon himself (2 Thessalonians 2:4). But that will only be after he reneges on his covenant with the Jews (Daniel 9:27) some 1185 days later resulting in the abatement of Temple sacrifice (Daniel 12:11).

Revelation 13:18 is a sign about the first Jewish Temple builder 666. Two of the four references to the number 666 in all of scripture point to Solomon (his gold wage). The first and second Temples were destroyed 666 (360-day prophetic) years apart to the day (Tisha b'Av). Revelation 13:18 indicates he will be the builder of what some call the Tribulation Temple.

How do you suppose a Pope will accomplish this?

[Waggles]

9 hours ago, David1701 said:

4) The Bishop of Rome was given a seat of authority, in Rome itself.

The Papacy as we know it - the Bishop of Rome being the supreme bishop over all others began with Pope Boniface III -

Pope Boniface III was a man who served as the 66th pope in February 607. He only held the position for 266 days before he died in November 607 AD.

In an official decree issued by the pope, he made Rome the head or the supreme church over all churches in the Byzantine Empire. This decree also stated that the bishop of Rome was the Universal Bishop, and had authority on doctrine, etc. over all other bishops.

Boniface's other notable act resulted from his close relationship with Emperor Phocas. He sought and obtained a decree from Phocas which restated that "the See of Blessed Peter the Apostle should be the head of all the Churches". This ensured that the title of "universal bishop" belonged exclusively to the bishop of Rome, and effectively ended the attempt by Patriarch Cyriacus of Constantinople to establish himself as "universal bishop".