is it over? can i come out now?

[TheBlade]

I try but can't see what some see. The word "Christmas" whats your first thought? Mine? YESHUA/JESUS.. came to earth and I am happy blessed every moment of ever day. The song playing right now.. what are the odds "THANKFUL".. yes I am.. this is the day the lord has made" Why would I ever focus on anything other then Christ? Its a choice

Maybe some are looking at it because of Santa and the like are not being celebrated. To me makes me sad. In me is the desire to show them some how some way that Christ came to earth for them. Don't know about you but.. yeah I am not out there every day reminding them at school or the job or at the store about Christ.. yet that day Dec 25th one can remind them of the love GOD has for this world. I believe this not just feel it every day every moment. I have a choice.. I choose to think about .. to remember for God so loved the world He gave His only son that whoever believes in Him shall have ever lasting life. He didn't send Him to condemn the world but to save it. 

So I kindly  disagree  

[Bawb]

53 minutes ago, TheBlade said:

I try but can't see what some see. The word "Christmas" whats your first thought? Mine? YESHUA/JESUS.. came to earth and I am happy blessed every moment of ever day. The song playing right now.. what are the odds "THANKFUL".. yes I am.. this is the day the lord has made" Why would I ever focus on anything other then Christ? Its a choice

Maybe some are looking at it because of Santa and the like are not being celebrated. To me makes me sad. In me is the desire to show them some how some way that Christ came to earth for them. Don't know about you but.. yeah I am not out there every day reminding them at school or the job or at the store about Christ.. yet that day Dec 25th one can remind them of the love GOD has for this world. I believe this not just feel it every day every moment. I have a choice.. I choose to think about .. to remember for God so loved the world He gave His only son that whoever believes in Him shall have ever lasting life. He didn't send Him to condemn the world but to save it. 

So I kindly  disagree  

There is a documentary on from Holy Impact Ministries you should check out.  Christmas It's Not What You Think (Full Documentary)

https://vimeo.com/653606454?embedded=true&source=video_title&owner=84519076

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdn2xsFl128

You're right, it's a choice.

Joshua 24:15 - And if it seem evil unto you to serve the Lord, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.

 

 

Edited December 27, 2021 by Bawb

[CaptWalker]

I guess you can come out now, but you mean you didn't even go to one of those boring candle light services?? Seriously though, if you are going to certain public places then expect some crowds because seems like a lot of people are still on Holiday "vacation". Either way there are some good things about this time of year such as focusing on helping the less fortunate and on others more than yourself, but unfortunately that seems to be rare now even among Christians, and it is basically an entirely family based holiday for the most part. Most charities almost have to beg for donations. 

And even ultra Liberals believe in giving to the poor and goodwill to men, but that alone doesn't automatically make them kind-hearted people, at least not in a moral sense. And i've really always wondered about Revelation-11:10..."And they that dwell upon the earth shall REJOICE over them,and make MERRY,and shall send GIFTS to one another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwell on the earth."  Hmmm...?  

Edited December 28, 2021 by CaptWalker

[The_Patriot21]

On 12/26/2021 at 1:37 PM, walla299 said:

Yep, I think its safe to say that the "Christmas is Evil" time of year is behind us for another year.  

But...what about is new years evil?

[OneLight]

Well, I have not seen the names of weekdays being evil in some time.  That could last all year long!

[Bawb]

1 hour ago, The_Patriot21 said:

But...what about is new years evil?

On New Year's Day, 1577, Pope Gregory decreed that all Roman Jews, under pain of death, must listen attentively to the compulsory Catholic conversion sermon given in Roman synagogues after Friday night services. This included Jews who believed in Messiah.

On New Year's Day, 1578, Gregory signed into law a tax, forcing Jews to pay for support of a house of conversion to convert Jews to Christianity.

On New Year's, 1581, Gregory ordered his troops to confiscate all sacred literature from the Roman Jewish community. Thousands of Jews were murdered in the campaign.

So throughout the Medieval and post-Medieval periods, January 1st—supposedly the day on which Jesus was circumcised (and that math is a little shaky)—is supposedly the day that Judaism died and Christianity took over. It was reserved for anti-Jewish activities: synagogue- and book-burning, public torture, and simple murder.

Now, Pope Gregory was not the first pope to use New Year's as a time of Jewish persecution. If you go back 1200 years earlier to 324 AD, Pope Sylvester convinced the Emperor Constantine to prohibit Jews from living in Jerusalem. The following year, at the council of Nicea, Sylvester arranged for the passage of a host of viciously anti-Semitic legislation. All Catholic saints are given a day—Sylvester is a "saint"—on which Christians celebrate a tribute to their memory. Guess which day is "Saint Sylvester Day"? December 31st. So, throughout Europe and the nation of Israel, the Jewish people of that part of the world, call New Year's Eve "Sylvester." To me, it shows something of the dark humor that the Jews are capable of.

I had no idea of the depth of perversion that surrounds this pagan celebration. "Let's ring in the new year by killing some Jews, burning some synagogues, and getting drunk because the earth is renewed and the sun is reborn. And, we will do some kissing as well." Let us not forget the kissing. At midnight on New Year's Eve, you get to kiss people, be they someone you know or strangers—whatever. It is another holdover from the Roman Saturnalia, and it is all part of the sexual part of pagan celebrations. The pagan celebrations always seem to bring sex into it somewhere.

It might not be a good idea to tell a Jewish Believer in Messiah Happy New Year. At least not unless it sometime in the beginning of April.

 

Edited December 30, 2021 by Bawb

[walla299]

2 hours ago, The_Patriot21 said:

But...what about is new years evil?

Oh, I'm sure someone will come up with something that's evil about New Years. 

For myself, I'm going to make popcorn, stay off the roads, and listen to the explosives on New Years Eve. I say explosives because I'm pretty sure there's a line between fireworks and explosives. I'm also fairly sure some in my 'hood will likely cross that line. As in: Happy . . . BOOM! . . . New . . . BOOM! . . . Year!

I know of a certain church where many believe that elections, public schools, and participating in society in general (according to them) is "evil." Upon discovering this I ran - I did not walk - away. Glad to see that place in my rear view mirror.

 

[other one]

Wild drunken parties are pretty evil.

Not all of us participate that way, but a lot of evil happens 

 

[The_Patriot21]

2 hours ago, Bawb said:

On New Year's Day, 1577, Pope Gregory decreed that all Roman Jews, under pain of death, must listen attentively to the compulsory Catholic conversion sermon given in Roman synagogues after Friday night services. This included Jews who believed in Messiah.

On New Year's Day, 1578, Gregory signed into law a tax, forcing Jews to pay for support of a house of conversion to convert Jews to Christianity.

On New Year's, 1581, Gregory ordered his troops to confiscate all sacred literature from the Roman Jewish community. Thousands of Jews were murdered in the campaign.

So throughout the Medieval and post-Medieval periods, January 1st—supposedly the day on which Jesus was circumcised (and that math is a little shaky)—is supposedly the day that Judaism died and Christianity took over. It was reserved for anti-Jewish activities: synagogue- and book-burning, public torture, and simple murder.

Now, Pope Gregory was not the first pope to use New Year's as a time of Jewish persecution. If you go back 1200 years earlier to 324 AD, Pope Sylvester convinced the Emperor Constantine to prohibit Jews from living in Jerusalem. The following year, at the council of Nicea, Sylvester arranged for the passage of a host of viciously anti-Semitic legislation. All Catholic saints are given a day—Sylvester is a "saint"—on which Christians celebrate a tribute to their memory. Guess which day is "Saint Sylvester Day"? December 31st. So, throughout Europe and the nation of Israel, the Jewish people of that part of the world, call New Year's Eve "Sylvester." To me, it shows something of the dark humor that the Jews are capable of.

I had no idea of the depth of perversion that surrounds this pagan celebration. "Let's ring in the new year by killing some Jews, burning some synagogues, and getting drunk because the earth is renewed and the sun is reborn. And, we will do some kissing as well." Let us not forget the kissing. At midnight on New Year's Eve, you get to kiss people, be they someone you know or strangers—whatever. It is another holdover from the Roman Saturnalia, and it is all part of the sexual part of pagan celebrations. The pagan celebrations always seem to bring sex into it somewhere.

It might not be a good idea to tell a Jewish Believer in Messiah Happy New Year. At least not unless it sometime in the beginning of April.

 

 

1 hour ago, walla299 said:

Oh, I'm sure someone will come up with something that's evil about New Years. 

For myself, I'm going to make popcorn, stay off the roads, and listen to the explosives on New Years Eve. I say explosives because I'm pretty sure there's a line between fireworks and explosives. I'm also fairly sure some in my 'hood will likely cross that line. As in: Happy . . . BOOM! . . . New . . . BOOM! . . . Year!

I know of a certain church where many believe that elections, public schools, and participating in society in general (according to them) is "evil." Upon discovering this I ran - I did not walk - away. Glad to see that place in my rear view mirror.

 

You should be a prophet @walla299

[Guest]

On 12/29/2021 at 9:28 PM, OneLight said:

Well, I have not seen the names of weekdays being evil in some time.  That could last all year long!

Or at least a week.  Then we have the Months to consider their origin.  And what about the names of the planets and stars?