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A Land of Unwalled Villages

I know I’m beginning to sound like a broken record by now, but there’s an enormous potential for a giant leap forward in End Times prophecy this summer, and this week we came breathtakingly close to witnessing its beginning.

After many days you will be called to arms. In future years you will invade a land that has recovered from war, whose people were gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel which had long been desolate. They had been brought out from the nations and now all of them live in safety. You and all your troops and the many nations with you will go up, advancing like a storm, you will be like a cloud covering the land.

 

This is what the sovereign Lord says: On that day thoughts will come into your mind and you will devise an evil scheme. You will say, “I will invade a land of unwalled villages, I will attack a peaceful and unsuspecting people – all of them living without gates and bars.” (Ezek. 38:8-11)

Many students of prophecy, myself included, see the battle of Ezekiel 38-39 as one of the most significant events on God’s prophetic calendar. In the scenario Ezekiel described nearly 2500 years ago, a coalition of Moslem countries, armed and led by the Russians, will attack Israel and be utterly defeated due to God’s direct intervention. He will use this battle to re-introduce Himself to Israel as their protector, to recall the rest of His people to their ancient homeland, and to reinstate His relationship with them.

When Will These Things happen? All agree that this battle has not yet taken place. Following WW 2 the Jewish people began returning to the land for the first time in centuries and only since then have conditions been such that Ezekiel’s prophecy could be fulfilled.

Speaking of this battle Lord said, “I will display my glory among the nations, and all the nations will see the punishment I inflict and the hand I lay upon them (the attacking Moslem coalition). From that day forward the house of Israel will know that I am the LORD their God. (Ezek. 39:22). He concluded by saying, “I will gather them to their own land, not leaving any behind.” (Ezek. 39:28)

Israel’s re-gathering, officially begun in 1948, will continue to completion and will be both spiritual and physical. According to Acts 15: 13-19 and Daniel 9:27 it will result it a temple being built. That means the Jews will return to their Old Covenant relationship with God, bringing an end to the Age of Grace and causing the Church to disappear into Heaven. The 490 year clock that stopped on year 483 at the time of the Crucifixion will begin ticking again, its final 7 years (known as Daniel’s 70th Week) unfolding. God’s attention will again be focused on Israel.

The Jews will begin Temple construction assisted by the anti-Christ (Dan 9:27) in what will be his first big move to establish himself as the god of this world. 3 1/2 years later he will stand in this very Temple and proclaim himself to be God, a declaration that will jump start the Great Tribulation. (Matt. 24:15 & 2 Thes. 2:4) So Ezekiel’s battle must be inserted into the window of time between the rebirth of the nation in 1948 and the rebuilding of the Temple, still in the future. You can see why prophecy students are so interested. Israel’s return to God, the Rapture of the Church, Daniel’s 70th week, the Coming Temple, the introduction of the anti-Christ, the Great Tribulation and the 2nd Coming are all somehow impacted by this battle. (Although the Rapture can happen at any time, I believe Rom. 11:25 says it has to happen before the beginning of Daniel’s 70th Week) Can you imagine any event more critical to the fulfillment of End Times prophecies?

A Peaceful And Unsuspecting People So what else has to happen before this battle can take place?  The participants are in place and it’s no secret that they’re in the final stages of preparation. Nor is their intent a mystery. Iran has openly predicted Israel’s soon coming demise, and Turkey has finally taken its place in the Moslem Coalition Ezekiel described.

There’s just one other condition.  Israel is described as living in safety in Ezek. 38:8 at the time of the attack. The Hebrew word translated safety there is betach.  Of 42 Old Testament appearances, it’s translated into some form of the word safety 28 times.  (One meaning of the word is careless, in the sense that the people feel so safe they’re not being cautious.) To underscore the attitude in Israel at the time of the attack, Ezekiel calls them a land of unwalled villages, a peaceful and unsuspecting people, living without gates and bars (Ezekiel 38:11).

It’s safe to say that none of these conditions exist in Israel today. Two thirds of a proposed 436 mile long security fence has been built to prevent Palestinian terrorists from crossing into Israel, so it’s decidedly not a land of unwalled villages.  The Jewish people know there are up to 40,000 rockets and missiles pointed at them, leaving no part of Israel safe from attack.  Then there’s the Gaza blockade crisis. Last week Hezbollah and Iran announced their intention to break the blockade with ships that were ready to set sail on a moments notice. Israel responded quickly, saying they’d be treated like enemy ships if they entered its territorial waters.  (As of this week both have been at least temporarily held back by pressure from the international community. Had this not been the case, we’d literally be hearing the opening salvos of Psalm 83 by now. )  For months, Israel’s military leaders have been telling their troops to prepare for war this summer.

These are not the actions of a peaceful and unsuspecting people.  In fact, persistent rumors have Israel preparing to launch a pre-emptive attack against Iran.  According to DEBKAfile Israeli bombers have been secretly positioned in Azerbaijan causing Iran to declare a state of war along its nearby border and position troops there, and it has also been reported that Israeli aircraft have the green light to overfly Saudi Arabia enroute to an attack on Iran.

Observers have called this summer the time when things will change forever in the Middle East. What ever happens will not be the long awaited Battle of Ezekiel 38 but it will certainly be setting the stage for it. We’ve already discussed the Psalm 83 andIsaiah 17 scenarios.  A pre-emptive attack on Iran could easily trigger the fulfillment of these prophecies  and decisive victories could put Israel into the state of mind consistent with one meaning of the Hebrew word betach; feeling so safe they’re no longer being cautious.  Time will tell.  But more so now than ever before, you can almost hear the footsteps of the Messiah. (06-26-10)http://rapture.streamlinerschedules.com/featured/kelley/jack125.html

 

 

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On 4/4/2022 at 9:20 PM, angels4u said:

A Land of Unwalled Villages

I know I’m beginning to sound like a broken record by now, but there’s an enormous potential for a giant leap forward in End Times prophecy this summer, and this week we came breathtakingly close to witnessing its beginning.

After many days you will be called to arms. In future years you will invade a land that has recovered from war, whose people were gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel which had long been desolate. They had been brought out from the nations and now all of them live in safety. You and all your troops and the many nations with you will go up, advancing like a storm, you will be like a cloud covering the land.

 

This is what the sovereign Lord says: On that day thoughts will come into your mind and you will devise an evil scheme. You will say, “I will invade a land of unwalled villages, I will attack a peaceful and unsuspecting people – all of them living without gates and bars.” (Ezek. 38:8-11)

Many students of prophecy, myself included, see the battle of Ezekiel 38-39 as one of the most significant events on God’s prophetic calendar. In the scenario Ezekiel described nearly 2500 years ago, a coalition of Moslem countries, armed and led by the Russians, will attack Israel and be utterly defeated due to God’s direct intervention. He will use this battle to re-introduce Himself to Israel as their protector, to recall the rest of His people to their ancient homeland, and to reinstate His relationship with them.

When Will These Things happen? All agree that this battle has not yet taken place. Following WW 2 the Jewish people began returning to the land for the first time in centuries and only since then have conditions been such that Ezekiel’s prophecy could be fulfilled.

Speaking of this battle Lord said, “I will display my glory among the nations, and all the nations will see the punishment I inflict and the hand I lay upon them (the attacking Moslem coalition). From that day forward the house of Israel will know that I am the LORD their God. (Ezek. 39:22). He concluded by saying, “I will gather them to their own land, not leaving any behind.” (Ezek. 39:28)

Israel’s re-gathering, officially begun in 1948, will continue to completion and will be both spiritual and physical. According to Acts 15: 13-19 and Daniel 9:27 it will result it a temple being built. That means the Jews will return to their Old Covenant relationship with God, bringing an end to the Age of Grace and causing the Church to disappear into Heaven. The 490 year clock that stopped on year 483 at the time of the Crucifixion will begin ticking again, its final 7 years (known as Daniel’s 70th Week) unfolding. God’s attention will again be focused on Israel.

The Jews will begin Temple construction assisted by the anti-Christ (Dan 9:27) in what will be his first big move to establish himself as the god of this world. 3 1/2 years later he will stand in this very Temple and proclaim himself to be God, a declaration that will jump start the Great Tribulation. (Matt. 24:15 & 2 Thes. 2:4) So Ezekiel’s battle must be inserted into the window of time between the rebirth of the nation in 1948 and the rebuilding of the Temple, still in the future. You can see why prophecy students are so interested. Israel’s return to God, the Rapture of the Church, Daniel’s 70th week, the Coming Temple, the introduction of the anti-Christ, the Great Tribulation and the 2nd Coming are all somehow impacted by this battle. (Although the Rapture can happen at any time, I believe Rom. 11:25 says it has to happen before the beginning of Daniel’s 70th Week) Can you imagine any event more critical to the fulfillment of End Times prophecies?

A Peaceful And Unsuspecting People So what else has to happen before this battle can take place?  The participants are in place and it’s no secret that they’re in the final stages of preparation. Nor is their intent a mystery. Iran has openly predicted Israel’s soon coming demise, and Turkey has finally taken its place in the Moslem Coalition Ezekiel described.

There’s just one other condition.  Israel is described as living in safety in Ezek. 38:8 at the time of the attack. The Hebrew word translated safety there is betach.  Of 42 Old Testament appearances, it’s translated into some form of the word safety 28 times.  (One meaning of the word is careless, in the sense that the people feel so safe they’re not being cautious.) To underscore the attitude in Israel at the time of the attack, Ezekiel calls them a land of unwalled villages, a peaceful and unsuspecting people, living without gates and bars (Ezekiel 38:11).

It’s safe to say that none of these conditions exist in Israel today. Two thirds of a proposed 436 mile long security fence has been built to prevent Palestinian terrorists from crossing into Israel, so it’s decidedly not a land of unwalled villages.  The Jewish people know there are up to 40,000 rockets and missiles pointed at them, leaving no part of Israel safe from attack.  Then there’s the Gaza blockade crisis. Last week Hezbollah and Iran announced their intention to break the blockade with ships that were ready to set sail on a moments notice. Israel responded quickly, saying they’d be treated like enemy ships if they entered its territorial waters.  (As of this week both have been at least temporarily held back by pressure from the international community. Had this not been the case, we’d literally be hearing the opening salvos of Psalm 83 by now. )  For months, Israel’s military leaders have been telling their troops to prepare for war this summer.

These are not the actions of a peaceful and unsuspecting people.  In fact, persistent rumors have Israel preparing to launch a pre-emptive attack against Iran.  According to DEBKAfile Israeli bombers have been secretly positioned in Azerbaijan causing Iran to declare a state of war along its nearby border and position troops there, and it has also been reported that Israeli aircraft have the green light to overfly Saudi Arabia enroute to an attack on Iran.

Observers have called this summer the time when things will change forever in the Middle East. What ever happens will not be the long awaited Battle of Ezekiel 38 but it will certainly be setting the stage for it. We’ve already discussed the Psalm 83 andIsaiah 17 scenarios.  A pre-emptive attack on Iran could easily trigger the fulfillment of these prophecies  and decisive victories could put Israel into the state of mind consistent with one meaning of the Hebrew word betach; feeling so safe they’re no longer being cautious.  Time will tell.  But more so now than ever before, you can almost hear the footsteps of the Messiah. (06-26-10)http://rapture.streamlinerschedules.com/featured/kelley/jack125.html

 

 

It is tempting to us all to record events and say; is this not predicted in the Bible? I would like to make some observations to explain the rebellion of Magog.

The first one is that it takes place after the Millennium. The martyrs of the ages "LIVE" and reign with Christ 1,000 years. The resurrection of martyrs is "when He COMES" (1st Cor.15:23). Added to this, the martyrs reign with Christ while Satan is bound. That happens after Armageddon. Finally, the plain language of Revelation 20 puts the rebellion of Magod at the end of the Millennium.

Jerusalem, since antiquity, has been walled. Only when the Lord returns, and men beat their weapons into plowshares because war has bee eradicated by our Lord, will the cities and towns we without walls. Jerusalem will have enjoyed a thousand years of peace. But we have to inquire, why and who will rebel at the end of the Millennium?

The answer is not hard to find.

1. The number one reason is that God leaves nothing untested in His economy. the Kingdom of God and His Christ has been standing for a thousand years. It shall be tested. the Lord tests Adam and Eve, the Lord tests Israel, tests Saul, tests david, tests Nebuchadnezzar, tests our Lord Jesus in the wilderness and in Gethsemane, gives a test for prophecy and even gives a test for Apostles. the Church is tested by the unbeliever. And so, the established Kingdom of God, and of Heaven on earth, must be tested.

2. The testers are easy to find. After Armageddon about a third of the world's population will remain. They will be ruled with a rod of Iron. Why? Because they are still in the flesh and are at enmity with God. God must force every knee to bow and every tongue to confess. No rain for those who do not g up to worship Christ annually is the motivation to move them. The natural mind is at enmity with God

3. The Nations that survive the Great Tribulation are still in the flesh. they will reproduce. Life is long under Christ's righteous rule. the world's population will increase. the offspring of the Nations will not have known life under Satan. They will tacitly refuse the restrictions of King Jesus. they will want rape, murder, drunkenness and thievery. they will hate the rule f the rod of iron.

4. Satan is let loose. He is a master deceiver. He will ply his old trade - lies. He will have a welcome audience.

In all this God watches in anticipation. WILL HIS KINGDOM PREVAIL. His reputation stands on it. He has claimed in Daniel 2 that it will be an "everlasting" Kingdom. How will men fare in an open rebellion against Him and His Kingdom.

The answer is there for all to see. The un-walled and vulnerable cities and towns in Israel, and the un-walled Citadel of Jerusalem would normally stand no chance. But this test is PERSONAL. God's Kingdom is at stake. Does God call for mercenaries? Or is our Lord Jesus to don armor? Will Christians who rule cities have to go to war? NO! It is PERSONAL ...

 "... and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them" (Rev.20:9)

The administrative and religious Capital of the world will remain unscathed, though I'm sure the stink of corpses from Hamon-gog will spoil events for a while - about seven months (Ezek.39:12)


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This is another 12 year old prophecy with certain events that are well past now. While the political tensions still exist, today's issues are not exactly the same as in 2010.

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On 4/4/2022 at 1:20 PM, angels4u said:

A Land of Unwalled Villages

Israel is not currently "A Land of Unwalled Villages." They have walls and gates, to keep out Palestinian terrorists.

And invaders currently do not have vast armies mounted on horses, which the birds will subsequently eat.

This prophecy is by no means imminent; rather, it will take place at the 7th Bowl judgment. At a time when the world has been dramatically reduced in population, with military technology destroyed by the devastation brought about during the 7 Trumpets and early Bowls.

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49 minutes ago, WilliamL said:

And invaders currently do not have vast armies mounted on horses, which the birds will subsequently eat.

Are you familiar with the vast number of horses and their use in WW II by many nations and peoples, Afghanistan vs. Russia, currently in the middle-east and other nations (tens of thousands)? Mechanized infantry is limited by obstacles and terrain, horses not so much. 

An EMP attack, CME, and severe solar flare would render almost all non EMP hardened machinery non-operatable. The land terrain, obstacles, sand, mud, and weather, can easily affect fuel, supply, and support for troops and equipment. 

I too have wondered about the horses in Ezekiel and Revelation. Have the world's militaries reverted back to the stone age? Looking at military campaigns and strategies from ancient times to the present. Horses are there somewhere. From memory I recall not long ago, the Army revived its mounted horse cavalry from abandonment? At least that's what Mr. Ed was telling me the other day. :D

High Ho Silver, away.......

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On 4/4/2022 at 2:20 PM, angels4u said:

A Land of Unwalled Villages

I know I’m beginning to sound like a broken record by now, but there’s an enormous potential for a giant leap forward in End Times prophecy this summer, and this week we came breathtakingly close to witnessing its beginning.

After many days you will be called to arms. In future years you will invade a land that has recovered from war, whose people were gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel which had long been desolate. They had been brought out from the nations and now all of them live in safety. You and all your troops and the many nations with you will go up, advancing like a storm, you will be like a cloud covering the land.

 

This is what the sovereign Lord says: On that day thoughts will come into your mind and you will devise an evil scheme. You will say, “I will invade a land of unwalled villages, I will attack a peaceful and unsuspecting people – all of them living without gates and bars.” (Ezek. 38:8-11)

Many students of prophecy, myself included, see the battle of Ezekiel 38-39 as one of the most significant events on God’s prophetic calendar. In the scenario Ezekiel described nearly 2500 years ago, a coalition of Moslem countries, armed and led by the Russians, will attack Israel and be utterly defeated due to God’s direct intervention. He will use this battle to re-introduce Himself to Israel as their protector, to recall the rest of His people to their ancient homeland, and to reinstate His relationship with them.

When Will These Things happen? All agree that this battle has not yet taken place. Following WW 2 the Jewish people began returning to the land for the first time in centuries and only since then have conditions been such that Ezekiel’s prophecy could be fulfilled.

Speaking of this battle Lord said, “I will display my glory among the nations, and all the nations will see the punishment I inflict and the hand I lay upon them (the attacking Moslem coalition). From that day forward the house of Israel will know that I am the LORD their God. (Ezek. 39:22). He concluded by saying, “I will gather them to their own land, not leaving any behind.” (Ezek. 39:28)

Israel’s re-gathering, officially begun in 1948, will continue to completion and will be both spiritual and physical. According to Acts 15: 13-19 and Daniel 9:27 it will result it a temple being built. That means the Jews will return to their Old Covenant relationship with God, bringing an end to the Age of Grace and causing the Church to disappear into Heaven. The 490 year clock that stopped on year 483 at the time of the Crucifixion will begin ticking again, its final 7 years (known as Daniel’s 70th Week) unfolding. God’s attention will again be focused on Israel.

The Jews will begin Temple construction assisted by the anti-Christ (Dan 9:27) in what will be his first big move to establish himself as the god of this world. 3 1/2 years later he will stand in this very Temple and proclaim himself to be God, a declaration that will jump start the Great Tribulation. (Matt. 24:15 & 2 Thes. 2:4) So Ezekiel’s battle must be inserted into the window of time between the rebirth of the nation in 1948 and the rebuilding of the Temple, still in the future. You can see why prophecy students are so interested. Israel’s return to God, the Rapture of the Church, Daniel’s 70th week, the Coming Temple, the introduction of the anti-Christ, the Great Tribulation and the 2nd Coming are all somehow impacted by this battle. (Although the Rapture can happen at any time, I believe Rom. 11:25 says it has to happen before the beginning of Daniel’s 70th Week) Can you imagine any event more critical to the fulfillment of End Times prophecies?

A Peaceful And Unsuspecting People So what else has to happen before this battle can take place?  The participants are in place and it’s no secret that they’re in the final stages of preparation. Nor is their intent a mystery. Iran has openly predicted Israel’s soon coming demise, and Turkey has finally taken its place in the Moslem Coalition Ezekiel described.

There’s just one other condition.  Israel is described as living in safety in Ezek. 38:8 at the time of the attack. The Hebrew word translated safety there is betach.  Of 42 Old Testament appearances, it’s translated into some form of the word safety 28 times.  (One meaning of the word is careless, in the sense that the people feel so safe they’re not being cautious.) To underscore the attitude in Israel at the time of the attack, Ezekiel calls them a land of unwalled villages, a peaceful and unsuspecting people, living without gates and bars (Ezekiel 38:11).

It’s safe to say that none of these conditions exist in Israel today. Two thirds of a proposed 436 mile long security fence has been built to prevent Palestinian terrorists from crossing into Israel, so it’s decidedly not a land of unwalled villages.  The Jewish people know there are up to 40,000 rockets and missiles pointed at them, leaving no part of Israel safe from attack.  Then there’s the Gaza blockade crisis. Last week Hezbollah and Iran announced their intention to break the blockade with ships that were ready to set sail on a moments notice. Israel responded quickly, saying they’d be treated like enemy ships if they entered its territorial waters.  (As of this week both have been at least temporarily held back by pressure from the international community. Had this not been the case, we’d literally be hearing the opening salvos of Psalm 83 by now. )  For months, Israel’s military leaders have been telling their troops to prepare for war this summer.

These are not the actions of a peaceful and unsuspecting people.  In fact, persistent rumors have Israel preparing to launch a pre-emptive attack against Iran.  According to DEBKAfile Israeli bombers have been secretly positioned in Azerbaijan causing Iran to declare a state of war along its nearby border and position troops there, and it has also been reported that Israeli aircraft have the green light to overfly Saudi Arabia enroute to an attack on Iran.

Observers have called this summer the time when things will change forever in the Middle East. What ever happens will not be the long awaited Battle of Ezekiel 38 but it will certainly be setting the stage for it. We’ve already discussed the Psalm 83 andIsaiah 17 scenarios.  A pre-emptive attack on Iran could easily trigger the fulfillment of these prophecies  and decisive victories could put Israel into the state of mind consistent with one meaning of the Hebrew word betach; feeling so safe they’re no longer being cautious.  Time will tell.  But more so now than ever before, you can almost hear the footsteps of the Messiah. (06-26-10)http://rapture.streamlinerschedules.com/featured/kelley/jack125.html

 

 

Interesting posts and topics as always, Angels.

I take note the following is recorded in all three synoptic Gospels; Matt. 24:34, Mark 13:30, and Luke 21:32.

Matthew 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

What generation is Jesus assigning this to? The generation that sees Israel become a nation again, our generation, the terminal generation, May 14, 1948.

How long is a generation in years? Many scholars and Bible teachers speculate the last average longevity for humanity, given in Psalm 90:10. That fits our generation and is not a date setting.

The generation that sees Israel retake the mountains of Israel and reclaim control over Jerusalem. 1967.

Until all of what things? Everything Jesus said for our day we are witnessing right now (Matthew 24:4-34). Surprise, it is here.

Past Christian generations could not even phantom how Israel could become a nation again, but they believed. I was not born yet, but can you imagine the excitement running through the church in 1948. In 1967 I was yet too young to understand the significance of that war.

Imagine our excitement when the next major biblical prophetic event suddenly happens.

When all these things (a convergence) begin to happen, it is not “oh woe is me!” It is look up; your redemption draweth nigh. Now that is something worth watching and waiting for!

I wonder just how much the Lord will allow us to witness before He calls us home? We shall see?


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According to revelation, Gog invades the land of Israel about 1000 years after the beast is destroyed and the first resurection has taken place. 

To me the book of Revelation is the most important book of prophecy for those living during the time of the end. It let's us know how the beast is able to take control of Jerusalem and kill the saints but 1000 years after those saints have been resurrected and Gog attempts to take Jerusalem, those same saints who were resurrected are safe and secure just as Ezekiel describes. Gog is not able to overcome God's annointed. 

Of course, there will be no need for walls. The saints in the first resurection don't suffer a second death. 

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On 4/7/2022 at 3:35 PM, Dennis1209 said:

Are you familiar with the vast number of horses and their use in WW II by many nations and peoples, Afghanistan vs. Russia, currently in the middle-east and other nations (tens of thousands)? Mechanized infantry is limited by obstacles and terrain, horses not so much. 

An EMP attack, CME, and severe solar flare would render almost all non EMP hardened machinery non-operatable. The land terrain, obstacles, sand, mud, and weather, can easily affect fuel, supply, and support for troops and equipment. 

I too have wondered about the horses in Ezekiel and Revelation. Have the world's militaries reverted back to the stone age?

Your point about EMPs is very salient. That would set the stage for the horses. However, "all of them [the armies] riding on horses" (Ezek. 38:15) could not be pulled off quickly: it will take years for the horses to be bred, and warriors to be trained. This is why I say that this prophecy will not be fulfilled until many years has passed after the Rapture.


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21 minutes ago, WilliamL said:

Your point about EMPs is very salient. That would set the stage for the horses. However, "all of them [the armies] riding on horses" (Ezek. 38:15) could not be pulled off quickly: it will take years for the horses to be bred, and warriors to be trained. This is why I say that this prophecy will not be fulfilled until many years has passed after the Rapture.

Interesting: i assume this preemillenialist position during a literal 1000 year reign of Jesus on earth.

How will the peoples of all nations travel to Jerusalem each year? No technology?

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4 minutes ago, Alive said:

Interesting: i assume this preemillenialist position during a literal 1000 year reign of Jesus on earth.

How will the peoples of all nations travel to Jerusalem each year? No technology?

That will happen in the Millennial when Jesus reigns on earth with the Saints, I,m sure He makes a way to do that…. :)

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