Timelines

[Shilohsfoal]

On 4/8/2022 at 8:06 PM, Uriah said:

I am asking if you would please provide YOUR timeline. (or your favorite one) And, please a description of support for it because many may have similarities or a particular point that needs to be emphasized. I'll get mine out there shortly, I'm going to make it a bit neater. 

My time line I've come up with when the abomination of desolation is placed in Revelation coresponds to the duration of the Gentiles occupation of Jerusalem. According to Daniel, the armed forces of the north(possibly nato forces) accomplish two things. The daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation is placed in Jerusalem. There are 1290 days between these two events in Daniel 12.So at the beginning of the occupation, the daily sacrifice (the draft) is abolished. Then the Gentiles occupy Jerusalem 42months when the beast attacks and kills them. This coresponds to the king if the south attacking the king of the north at the time of the end in Daniel. The king of the north responds by ordering his armed forces to use the abomination that causes desolation. This takes place 3 1/2 days after the beast kills the Gentiles protecting Jerusalem. The abomination of desolation causes a great earthquake and a cloud departs from Jerusalem into the heaven. It appears as a scroll being rolled together. 

[Revelation Man]

11 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

I Disagree, The Horse Is Dead, I Have Clearly Explained My Position

And you are in error, the math doesn't add up, its simple math. 

[Revelation Man]

23 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

Hi Rev, Man,

Yes we have all made mistakes as we type. Fine.

Now may I suggest you have another think -

1,260 days is the end of the A/C (Rev. 13: 5) when Jesus comes to deal with him and his army. (Rev. 19: 19)

1,290 days is when the Sanctuary is cleansed. (Dan. 12: 11)

1,335 days (extra 30 + 15 days) is the `blessed time,` the 15th of Adar, in Jerusalem. This is Israel`s Feast for their National deliverance. (Esther 9: 18 & 19)

 

No, the 1290 and 1335 is exactly what I stated they are. Daniel asks the exact same question in verse 8 to the man in linen (Jesus) that the angel does in verse 6, HOW LONG UNTIL THESE WONDERS END in verse 6 vs. What shall be the end of these things in verse 8, Well, WHAT THNGS? Daniel 11:36-45, it even ends with saying this will be the end of him (A.C.) in verse 45. 

So, if Dan. 12:7 is saying the Anti-Christ shall conquer Israel/Jews and all that will end in 1260 days (via the Second Coming of Jesus), and Daniel asks the exact same question, why do we not understand that the other two numbers are also THINGS THAT END with the 2nd Coming  !! One event is 1335 days until the second coming ends it, the other is 1290 days until the second coming ends it.

The problem is we are too entrenched in our understandings at times to see that which is simple. Why did the unlearned disciples see Jesus for who he was but the learned Pharisees/Scribes not see him for who he was? Their training had taught them differently, whereas the disciples had no preconceived clutter in their minds. 

Daniel asks the SAME QUESTION that got Jesus to to tell him about an EVENT (2nd Coming) which would end all of those Daniel 11:36-45 wonders and somehow we assume the 1290 and 1335 are NOT ENDED by the exact same Second Coming as the 1260 event, that is a mystery unto me. I solved it, you are guessing, like a lot of others, I see literally no one that understands this. So, I have to go to the radiation doc for a check-up or talk to my Doc, my PSA is still like 0.001, so I am good on that end. I ain't going nowhere until the Lord comes, Amen. And that will be very soon, I expect in the fall of 2025 via Apophis being April 2029. We can know THE SEASON. Jesus said so.

 

Edited April 20, 2022 by Revelation Man

[Shilohsfoal]

On 4/18/2022 at 10:27 AM, truth7t7 said:

I disagree, the two witnesses will see parallel time frames with (The Beast), and scripture clearly teaches they die just a few days before the 7th Trump (The End)

The 2nd woe is the same hour they are raised, the 3rd woe is "Quick"

Dead 3.5 days + 1 day for the 2nd-3rd woe

And you try to discredit "Parallel" when their times frames are like 99.9% in agreement, Smiles!

I agree about the two parallel time frames. It also parallels Daniels account of the norths armed forces occupying Jerusalem and the king of the south attacking at that time. 

One thing I think alot if people overlook is the fire that proceeds from the mouths of the two witnesses. That happens to be the command of the norths armed forces to destroy your enemies.They say "fire"and the next thing you know missiles are coming down from the sky. 

[truth7t7]

8 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

What object used by the armed forces causes an earthquake and causes a cloud to rise from earth to the heavens? 

Hint. 

The resurection takes place AT THAT TIME. 

https://biblehub.com/kjv/daniel/11-44.htm

https://biblehub.com/kjv/daniel/12-1.htm

https://biblehub.com/kjv/matthew/24-15.htm

I disagree, a nuclear blast has absolutely nothing to do with the Lords second coming and last day resurrection

[truth7t7]

3 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

I agree about the two parallel time frames. It also parallels Daniels account of the norths armed forces occupying Jerusalem and the king of the south attacking at that time. 

One thing I think alot if people overlook is the fire that proceeds from the mouths of the two witnesses. That happens to be the command of the norths armed forces to destroy your enemies.They say "fire"and the next thing you know missiles are coming down from the sky. 

I believe "Fire From The Mouth" are spoken words by the two witnesses

Example: Like when Elijah called fire from heaven against the prophets of Baal, fire from their mouth 

Edited April 19, 2022 by truth7t7

[WilliamL]

On 4/8/2022 at 6:06 PM, Uriah said:

I am asking if you would please provide YOUR timeline.

This is from a blog, cited below:

So to sum it all up: if the Latter Day King of the North “takes away” Daniel 12:11ʼs “daily services” when he first “enters the Glorious Holy Land,” through subverting its political and/or religious leaders – “many shall be enfeebled/overthrown” (Dan. 11:41) – then the 1290 days would begin at that point, and conclude with the Abomination of Desolation... The subjection of “lands” – Egypt and Islamic North Africa – could easily take that long, prior to the final crisis. Just as Antiochus was successful in first subverting many of the priests and people, and subsequently succeeded in his original invasion of Egypt, a number of years before he committed his utter defilement and desolation of the Temple in 168 B.C.

This sequence seems to me to be the most likely fulfillment of Daniel 12:11. Whether or not it is how things will play out remains to be seen. So this is something to watch out for: the acts of the King of the North when he (or his men) first enter Jerusalem. Those acts should reveal whether or not this understanding of the 1290 days is valid.

1290 days works out to 43 lunar months + 20 days. There are 43 lunar months between Rosh Hashanah = Tishri 1 and the Nisan 1 of 3½ years later. Adding the 20 days comes to Nisan 21, the last day and second special sabbath day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread. This was the day the Israelites crossed through the Red Sea, being finally delivered from Egyptian bondage. Also, in my understanding, Nisan 21 was the day the dead rose (were delivered) from the graves “after His (Jesusʼ) resurrection…” Matt. 27:53

The 1335 Days, Pentecost, Firstfruits, and Rapture

Adding 45 days to Nisan 21 – that is, completing the full 1335 days – comes to Sivan 7, potentially the Feast of Shavout/Pentecost, depending on the year. Rabbinical Jews celebrate Sivan 6 every year for this feast day, the date God gave the Ten Commandments from Mt. Sinai. The next day, the 7th, was when the Israelites entered into their blood covenant with God to keep His law, and those whom God called ascended up before His Presence upon Mount Sinai. Exodus 24

Whether or not the end of the daily services in Jerusalem takes place on Tishri 1 is therefore something else to watch for.

These 45 days (or part thereof) would be the Great Tribulation, which begins with “the placing of an abomination of desolation” on the last of the 1290 days:

Matt. 24:15 “Therefore when you see the Abomination of Desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet… 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. … 21 For then will be the Great Tribulation…”

A short tribulation fits my understanding for other reasons, which I provide in my blog post Forty Days. The full 1335 days may well end on Pentecost and/or the day before, which two days were the original date of (1st day) Godʼs descent accompanied by earthquake, clouds, and shofar upon Mount Sinai, and (2nd day) His chosen being called up into His Presence. Being a type and shadow of Christʼs descent and His peoplesʼ ascent amidst the very same signs.

29. The 1290 and 1335 Days of Daniel 12:11-12

Presents a more literal and accurate translation of Daniel 12:11-12, and explains what this prophecy reveals about the sequence of End Time events.

https://www.worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/1440-the-1290-and-1335-days-of-daniel-1211-12/

[Marilyn C]

16 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Your Chart suggest that Jesus is going to return, Jews Mourn For Jesus, A Temple Is Cleansed, Then Jesus Hangs Out With Mortal Men On This Earth In Celebration?

Many claim Jesus will literally return to Jerusalem, and rule "On This Earth" In A Millennium this being false in deception.

Hi truth,

I agree. 

`He is a great King over all the earth......God has gone UP with a shout.` (P. 47: 2 & 5)

Jesus is `far above all...in this age and the one to come...` (Eph. 1: 21) 

[Uriah]

20 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

OK, got it. The 5 months happen during the First Woe in Rev. 9, which is AFTER he Two-witnesses show up at the 1335, and even AFTER the Anti-Christ shows up at the 1260 middle of the week event. Don't look at Rev. 11 as linear to the rest of Revelation, its n not. Only Rev. 8, 9 and 16 are, 15 is in Heaven linear, it should be with Rev. 16 actually. 

All of the other chapters after Rev. 8, besides 8, 9 and 16 of course, are Parenthetical Citation chapters. 

I understand your methodology about being linear. I suppose one could say there are linear portions/snippets. But there is a significant amount of that which is repeating, only in a varying aspect/detail/description. there are many individual visions within the overall vision.

[Uriah]

21 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Scripture below "Clearly Teaches" that the two witnesses are killed, lay dead in the street for 3.5 days, and are raised before the world at Gods call from heaven, "The Same Hour" is the Great earthquake, the 2nd woe is past, and the 3rd woe comes even quicker in the 7th trump and final judgment

Agreed, but how much time passes from two witnesses rising until the "end"? Consider the great earthquake as being CAUSED by the approach of the "mountain burning with fire! God's stoning begins and ALL of the cataclysms follow lasting for approx. 5 months-to approx. Tish b Av.