Questions about Jesus!

[B-B]

32 minutes ago, Solly said:

10 Did Jesus participate in the creation?

To my way of thinking, the answer is no. Rabbi Yehoshua was not born when the creation was instigated and completed. How could he participate if not on the earth at the time? "In the beginning, G-d created the heavens and the earth". That statement was G-d in the singular. 

Genesis 1:1
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

Proverbs 8:23
From everlasting I was established, from the beginning, before the earth began.

John 1:2
He was with God in the beginning.

John 1:14
The Word became flesh and made His dwelling among us. We have seen His glory, the glory of the one and only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.

John 8:58
"Truly, truly, I tell you," Jesus declared, "before Abraham was born, I am!"

John 17:5
And now, Father, glorify Me in Your presence with the glory I had with You before the world 

Proverbs 8:22-31

The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old…

Ephesians 3:9
And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

1 John 1:1,2

That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; …

1 John 5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

John 1:18

No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

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[Jayne]

12 hours ago, Solly said:

10 Did Jesus participate in the creation?

To my way of thinking, the answer is no. Rabbi Yehoshua was not born when the creation was instigated and completed. How could he participate if not on the earth at the time? "In the beginning, G-d created the heavens and the earth". That statement was G-d in the singular. 

 

Hi, Solly - 

"Elohim" [God] in the first verse of the Bible is plural.  "Eloha" is singular.

Here is what orthodox Christianity teaches.

Jesus Christ, the Son, has always existed with the Father and the Holy Spirit.  They are three-in-one.  Not three Gods -the Bible says only one God with three persons:  Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

Jesus was in existence before creation with God and BEING God.  John 1.

Jesus has no beginning or end.  

He took on human flesh at a mere point in human history and for only 33 years.  That does not erase his eternal being prior to that or after that.

The Bible says that Jesus, the Son was the creator.

[1]  John 1:1-3 = " In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.  He was in the beginning with God.  All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made."

[2]  Colossians 1:16 = "For by him [Christ] all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him."

 

 

 

 

[HAZARD]

12 hours ago, Solly said:

10 Did Jesus participate in the creation?

To my way of thinking, the answer is no. Rabbi Yehoshua was not born when the creation was instigated and completed. How could he participate if not on the earth at the time? "In the beginning, G-d created the heavens and the earth". That statement was G-d in the singular. 

 

John 1:1-3'

In the beginning was the Word and the Word was God and the word was with God.

The same was in the beginning with God.

ALL THINGS WERE MADE BY HIM; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

John 1:14, And the Word became flesh . . . . . . (Jesus).

So He actually did create everything as the Word before He became flesh.

[other one]

2 hours ago, HAZARD said:

John 1:1-3'

In the beginning was the Word and the Word was God and the word was with God.

The same was in the beginning with God.

ALL THINGS WERE MADE BY HIM; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

John 1:14, And the Word became flesh . . . . . . (Jesus).

So He actually did create everything as the Word before He became flesh.

John also later says that he was in the form of God before becoming flesh.  And after his resurrection he prayed and received the same glory he had in the beginning (Godship)    I do believe he did set that aside while in the flesh....   at his own discretion.

I think I agree with Michael Heiser that we do not have the same understanding of the meaning of the word god as the ancient Hebrews and people of the time of Jesus in the flesh.   Makes understanding John 1:1-3 difficult to understand.

 

[HAZARD]

1 John 5:7 
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 

One in unity in all things.

Scriptures clearly teach that the Word created, made, all things. Some believe all things were created by them, the Father, Son and Holy Ghost.

John 1: 1, In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2, The same was in the beginning with God.

3, All things were made by HIM; and without HIM was not any thing made that was made. Notice the Scripture clearly states all things were made by HIM, not THEM, or by HIM, THE FATHER, AND THE HOLY GHOST.

And verse 10, He was in the world, and the world was made by HIM, and the world knew HIM not. The world He lived in knew the Father. Jesus claimed to be the Son of God and they killed HIM for it. God will hold men responsible for what He says, not for what alleged bible experts interpret His words to say.

[Willa]

Yes to all.  Yes, Jesus ate fish.  He even ate fish after his resurrection!

Luk 24:40  And when he had said this, he showed them his hands and his feet.

Luk 24:41  And while they still disbelieved for joy and were marveling, he said to them, "Have you anything here to eat?"

Luk 24:42  They gave him a piece of broiled fish,

Luk 24:43  and he took it and ate before them.

 

[Omegaman 3.0]

18 hours ago, Solly said:

Not everyone feels secure when disagreeing with the main stream. It's the same in most forums and a few do get on their high horse if a reply does not slot nicely into their way of thinking; at least, that's my take on forums.

That was my thinking, and I am glad you took the time to "brave it", good for you!

[Mama Etna]

Yes to all to the questions - 1-11.