Why cant God make this world a peaceful healthy safe place Right Now ?

[R. Hartono]

Why wait ?

Edited December 29, 2022 by R. Hartono

[Selah7]

15 minutes ago, R. Hartono said:

Why ? 

Hello, Hartono …

Once upon a time, the world was beautiful.  Then Satan rebelled.  But Jesus is coming back.  And the world will be beautiful once again. 

For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

- 2 Peter 3:5-7,10,13 (KJV)

 

[other one]

1 hour ago, R. Hartono said:

Why ? 

When I look at everything as a whole, it appears to me that he's making us a safe and healthy place.    He's letting Satan run this world for a while to see who among us can exist happily and secure in that safe and healthy place.   Short time existence in this wild crazy place to see how we would fit into his heavenly home for us.

Why do I think so???    Genesis 1:1 -- Revelation 22:21, 75 years of daily personal experience with the Holy Spirit, along with usage of the bit of common sense my maker blessed me with... 

[R. Hartono]

1 hour ago, Selah7 said:

Hello, Hartono …

Once upon a time, the world was beautiful.  Then Satan rebelled.  But Jesus is coming back.  And the world will be beautiful once again. 

For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

- 2 Peter 3:5-7,10,13 (KJV)

 

This world needs peace right now, why wait until new heaven comes. 

Edited December 27, 2022 by R. Hartono

[Reynolds357]

3 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

Why wait ?

Not in His plan. 

[enoob57]

Simply here’s your world with God not it’s center…. God-any questions?

[Neighbor]

5 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

Why wait ?

God is not waiting.

God has already in His  righteous wrath condemned this world.

Yet God is actively saving out from this condemned creation many to be with Him for eternity forward, for His mercy is from everlasting to everlasting to those foreknown and predestined to be with Him of whom Yeshua loses not a one.

A place is being prepared by Yeshua for those God has foreknown and predestined to be with Him. When God the Father sees it to be readied He will tell His son Yeshua to come get all that he is saving to be with Him eternally.

The demons know of this and dread the coming of the time. 

 

[Jayne]

5 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

Why wait ?

What is God waiting on?  Jesus Christ tells us directly in Matthew 24:14.  God is waiting until ALL people groups have heard the gospel.

"And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come."

R. Hartono, YOU may be impatient and so may MANY Christians, but Peter tells us in his second letter that GOD is patient and is not slow like we think of slowness.  That God is patient - not wanting any to perish.

There are many organizations of various Christian denominations that work in reaching the unreached.

Here's just one example.  A missionary couple in Columbia are working with an unreached group that speaks VERY little Spanish, just their own language with no alphabet.  Imagine not speaking a person's language - a people group who don't even know who Adam and Eve were - and trying to evangelize them.

They help them find ways of sustaining themselves and making money to increase their standard of living and they are working on creating a written language for these people.  

‘Daunting task, but I’ll persevere’ says missionary to Colombia - IMB

God is patient and earnestly desiring these people to understand and come to know Christ.

If God can wait - I think we can wait.

 

 

[other one]

6 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

Why wait ?

You changed the question.   The wait is to let this all play out as an example of what happens when Satan has his way. This way all of creation will rejoice when the Lord returns unless they are part of Satan's world. And time given for all to make that decision.

[Vine Abider]

9 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

Why wait ?

 

2 hours ago, other one said:

You changed the question.   The wait is to let this all play out as an example of what happens when Satan has his way. This way all of creation will rejoice when the Lord returns unless they are part of Satan's world. And time given for all to make that decision.

 

3 hours ago, Jayne said:

"And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come."

R. Hartono, YOU may be impatient and so may MANY Christians, but Peter tells us in his second letter that GOD is patient and is not slow like we think of slowness.  That God is patient - not wanting any to perish.

In His multifarious wisdom, the answer to that will be on many levels I think, according to timing we can't yet see fully: 

1. Not wanting any to perish is one important thing. 
2. Another is that we too will go through a process, like Jesus did, learning obedience and to trust in our Father in all things. 
3. And also that the bad choice our great, great, great (great x 100) grandfather Adam made will be fully manifest showing it's full fruit. 
4. And that His wisdom will be known through us (the church) to the principalities and powers. 
5. And that His incredible love for us will be on full display as He rescues us from our folly.

And, and and . . . .

Edited December 27, 2022 by Vine Abider
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