Corruptors and their families must be put to death.

[Who me]

How do your ideas compile with Jesus's instruction, If you love me obey my commands?

[FJK]

10 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

Are you saying we must forgive all corruptor criminals ? Release them from jail ? They do not sin against us but against the whole citizen. Against God ultimately.

 

What do you think Jesus meant when he instructed us to pray that way?

[Alive]

ALong with the commandment to love as our base position in Christ, it seems to me that the Lord established another principle that can be applied to a great deal as we walk on this corrupted earth among sons of the enemy. Do you recall when Jesus asked for a denari and then asked the pharisees whose likeness and inscription was on the coin?

Jesus then said, render to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's.

The Nations and peoples of this world have laws. They may not all be just, but they are the law of the land.

[Neighbor]

“You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if anyone would sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. And if anyone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you."

 

 

[FJK]

35 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

“You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if anyone would sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. And if anyone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Give to the one who begs from you, and do not refuse the one who would borrow from you."

 

 

That alone could be the subject of a very, very long discussion about how we are to live as Christians in a practical manner, how we interact with the world around us.

[R. Hartono]

1 hour ago, Alive said:

ALong with the commandment to love as our base position in Christ, it seems to me that the Lord established another principle that can be applied to a great deal as we walk on this corrupted earth among sons of the enemy. Do you recall when Jesus asked for a denari and then asked the pharisees whose likeness and inscription was on the coin?

Jesus then said, render to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's.

The Nations and peoples of this world have laws. They may not all be just, but they are the law of the land.

Quite wise. Because we do not live in virtual reality, nations need Law and gun to keep order and teach lesson for people. 

@Neighbor @Who me @FJK @believeinHim

Edited March 16, 2023 by R. Hartono

[Neighbor]

41 minutes ago, FJK said:

That alone could be the subject of a very, very long discussion about how we are to live as Christians in a practical manner, how we interact with the world around us.

I think I can start with absorbing for context the conditions facing Paul when Paul lived, and where he was, and what government he was under when he wrote what he did about obedience for God's Glory or to the glory of God.

[Alive]

1 minute ago, Neighbor said:

I think I can start with absorbing for context the conditions facing Paul when Paul lived, and where he was, and what government he was under when he wrote what he did about obedience for God's Glory or to the glory of God.

Amen! We have plenty of clear scripture and even more, we have the promised 'Helper' to guide us in each specific circumstance.

He can be trusted to do just what we are told that He will...this stuff is real and not just words or some idea.

He is real and we are Alive in Him. I wish that all believers would read the book of John each month while at the same time the first 8 chapters of Romans.

:-)

We are not alone--seek to know Him intimately and believe.

[Neighbor]

"Amplified Bible
Jesus replied, 'My kingdom is not of this world [nor does it have its origin in this world]. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would be fighting [hard] to keep Me from being handed over to the Jews; but as it is, My kingdom is not of this world.' "

My Lord did not go about cutting thehands off evil doers, don't think it adviable to be advocating doing that today either. Not claiming to be doing so in the name of Yeshua ( Jesus ) anyway.

That the English, the French, the Spanish, the native American Indian, all had pretty horrible excesses of violence  they acted out toward my own ancestors is not justification for me to go about taking revenge on my own against any of them nor of anyone else, and then using God as my excuse for my ungodly actions.
 

[FJK]

18 minutes ago, believeinHim said:

So many jobs these days have the wrong people in HR and that threatens their jobs.

A fully secular comment here:

 

The law is a weapon, just like a gun is, and like a gun, it is best to learn how to use it before you need to.