Did God create Adam & Eve being that there were already people on Earth?

[Marston]

Here's another. Did Neanderthals come from Adam and Eve or their offspring?

[ayin jade]

Neanderthals, and denisovans for that matter, are not that different than us. They have physical differences but so do humans of today. (Look at the masaai and bushmen as examples of how different humans can be). I dont believe that they are seperate species any more than the vast differences among people today make them different species. Neanderthal and denisovan dna is present in modern people. I have neanderthal traits, and my husband has denisovan traits. 

[enoob57]

9 hours ago, Marston said:

 

Ok then Genesis 1 is inaccurate.

you'll need to be more specific as I believe 100% the accuracy of Scripture!

[Dennis1209]

In addition to some previous posts, there is no sense of the passage of time. People back then generally lived to be 800-969 years old. How old was Cain when he slew his brother Abel? Evidently, there was the passage of time and population for Cain to fear retribution for murdering a relative; hence, Cain was marked.

Perhaps the first city, Enoch, was akin to New York City and other liberal cities: a sanctuary city, a safe haven for criminals and illegal activities.

Genesis 4:23-24 (KJV) And Lamech said unto his wives, Adah and Zillah, Hear my voice; ye wives of Lamech, hearken unto my speech: for I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt. ²⁴ If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold.

From the original two progenitors, in only a few centuries, the replenishing (KJV) fill the earth (most other translations) would have exploded to the hundreds of thousands. There was no command against incense then, and they married blood relatives. Because of sin, DNA and the creation slowly groaned over time, not instantly as we observe today.

The spreading out, or migration, would have been slowed down by building cities. Cain built the first city, naming it after one of his sons, Enoch.

Someone mentioned that science agrees with two original progenitors via DNA mapping, and so do I. But they claim the progenitors are Mr. Starey Dust and Mrs. Pond O. Scum. Today, that false theory is evolving into panspermia, where an advanced civilization seeded life in the universe, hoping that life would evolve somewhere. 

I am sure everyone has heard Lilith's fable.

[AnOrangeCat]

9 hours ago, Marston said:

Many have difficulty accepting doctrinal changes to what they were taught since Sunday School, no matter what the scriptures say. We were all taught, erroneously, that Adam and Eve were the first but that is CLEARLY not the case based on the scriptures. Nevertheless, what most people learned in Sunday School trumps anything the Bible says.

This is a bit of a tangent, but I agree with you in that people have difficulty accepting what's different from what they were taught. I grew up in a house that was strongly of pretrib rapture and eternal conscious torment persuasion. When I found out there were other prominent beliefs on those and other matters it was really shocking to me.

It can definitely put people in an uncomfortable place. Consequently I tend to not push too hard when it comes to things Paul might call "debatable matters" as in Romans 14. Otherwise it gets too divisive over the little things. Certain beliefs becoming so deeply ingrained in people is a double edged sword. It can keep people on solid ground with the essentials as much as it divides on other matters.

 

[Luther]

9 hours ago, Marston said:

That's a great point. 

So who were the humans that God created in Genesis 1?

I believe the way the Bible is written there are times where whatever subject we are reading is repeated in the next chapter or series of verses in a slightly different perspective or wording. A good example of this is Revelation 13 and 17. They speak of the same event in a slightly different way, separated by 3 chapters. Same thing in Daniel 9 and 11. Same event, similar language, different chapters. 

It appears that the same pattern is true with our subject:

Genesis 1:26-27 KJV

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

[27] So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

 

[31] And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

(So man is a sixth day creation of God.) 

(And then):

Genesis 2:2 KJV

And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

( 5 verses later):

Genesis 2:7 KJV

And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

(So when and where did this come from? It would appear as if God is doing something completely different than His sixth day creation. But look at v.2-4 together):

Genesis 2:2-4 KJV

And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. [3] And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

[4] These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

( I believe that everything we read from Genesis 1:1 to 2:3 is the record of when everything is created, and from that point on we get a different perspective focusing on the man He created in 1:27, made in His image, Adam. 

Hope I explained it well enough.

[ConfirmByDoing]

18 hours ago, Marston said:

Genesis 4:14-16

14 Behold, you have driven me today away from the ground, and from your face I shall be hidden. I shall be a fugitive and a wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.” 15 Then the Lord said to him, “Not so! If anyone kills Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold.” And the Lord put a mark on Cain, lest any who found him should attack him. 16 Then Cain went away from the presence of the Lord and settled in the land of Nod,[f] east of Eden.

Cain killed Abel. Only Cain and his parents remained. So who are the others to whom Cain and God referenced? It seems that they were other people. 

 

 

Enter Melchizedek? I'm just kidding, kind of

Edited April 13 by ConfirmByDoing

[Vine Abider]

9 hours ago, Marston said:

Here's another. Did Neanderthals come from Adam and Eve or their offspring?

Some would say Neanderthals came from a pre-Adamic race that were part of a prior creation on earth between Genesis 1:1 & 1:2. (but God destroyed them & then made Adam and Eve) 

[Alive]

15 minutes ago, Vine Abider said:

Some would say Neanderthals came from a pre-Adamic race that were part of a prior creation on earth between Genesis 1:1 & 1:2. (but God destroyed them & then made Adam and Eve) 

People say all kinds of things.

like the earth is flat and hollow.

[angels4u]

25 minutes ago, Vine Abider said:

Some would say Neanderthals came from a pre-Adamic race that were part of a prior creation on earth between Genesis 1:1 & 1:2. (but God destroyed them & then made Adam and Eve) 

Nonsense....there's no record of any of that...