Can Angels still Fall from Grace?

[Hall7]

I agree with Kwik and John DB. The angels who fell in the beginning didn't know what their fate was going to be before falling, but now all angels know what their fate will be if they do decide to fall. So I seriously doubt they would take that route.

[WIP]

I believe that the Angels have free will and have had since they were created, the fact that many have fallen does not mean that the Lord would have taken their free will from those who remain faithful to Him.... The Lord never created puppets , He wants us all to choose to love and worship Him.

 

As to your question of "because of the angels" If you read it in context to what is said prior to that... it refers to woman covering their head.as a sign of authority on her head...which shows her submission to her husband. That is what I believe though I'm sure many will disagree with me..but thats ok.

[enoob57]

Angels were created in the fullness of God's Glory in His direct presence... They are not given repentance and

if they choose to turn from this fullness there remains nothing but eternity of that choice!  Love, Steven

[BlessedByTheBest]

Dear Blessed,

         Personally I used to ponder that "because of the angels"exactly the way you are implying and then one day I was reading(a long time ago)and I had a beautiful revelation that the angels referred to here are the already fallen(demons)...they are after all,angels-.that is what came into the eyes of my heart and I have never since questioned it.I do remember thinking "Oh okay,thank you Jesus,that is simple enough"'

        I do hope it sounds as simple an explanation as it did me.....Oh ,and I seriously doubt that any one of Gods heavenly angels ever think about anything but serving and worshipping God,they have seen it ALL from the beginning-I can't imagine a holy,heavenly angel considering losing their position to share in satans fate...

                                                                                           God bless you,Kwik

 

Makes sense! thanks sister!

[RustyAngeL]

On 8/22/2013 at 2:20 AM, kwikphilly said:

Dear Blessed,

         Personally I used to ponder that "because of the angels"exactly the way you are implying and then one day I was reading(a long time ago)and I had a beautiful revelation that the angels referred to here are the already fallen(demons)...they are after all,angels-.that is what came into the eyes of my heart and I have never since questioned it.I do remember thinking "Oh okay,thank you Jesus,that is simple enough"'

        I do hope it sounds as simple an explanation as it did me.....Oh ,and I seriously doubt that any one of Gods heavenly angels ever think about anything but serving and worshipping God,they have seen it ALL from the beginning-I can't imagine a holy,heavenly angel considering losing their position to share in satans fate...

                                                                                           God bless you,Kwik

I have often wondered that myself.  Do they have free will can they fall and do angels have emotions like us or do they simply follow what God tells them or do they just know what to do. No I too believe that they want only to praise God all the time.  They have no desire to go over into the enemy camp.

[Ezra]

38 minutes ago, RustyAngeL said:

I have often wondered that myself.  Do they have free will can they fall and do angels have emotions like us or do they simply follow what God tells them or do they just know what to do.  Still more questions. 

First of all grace is for human sinners, and none of the fallen angels will receive grace.  Hence eternal Hell (the Lake of Fire) is prepared for the Devil and his angels.

Those who are presently in Heaven are called "the holy angels", and apparently there will be no more rebellion in God's Heaven.

As to why Christian women should cover their heads during worship, since the head covering is a symbol of authority, and the angels observe Christian gatherings, they need to see Christians under God's authority, just as they are under His authority. [The word *power* (Greek exousia) means authority.]  Thus Christian men with uncovered heads, and Christian women with covered heads indicate that the entire church is in submission to God and to Christ. The Head of Christ is God, the Head of the man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man (1 Cor 11:1-16).

[angels4u]

On 8/22/2013 at 4:20 AM, kwikphilly said:

Dear Blessed,

         Personally I used to ponder that "because of the angels"exactly the way you are implying and then one day I was reading(a long time ago)and I had a beautiful revelation that the angels referred to here are the already fallen(demons)...they are after all,angels-.that is what came into the eyes of my heart and I have never since questioned it.I do remember thinking "Oh okay,thank you Jesus,that is simple enough"'

        I do hope it sounds as simple an explanation as it did me.....Oh ,and I seriously doubt that any one of Gods heavenly angels ever think about anything but serving and worshipping God,they have seen it ALL from the beginning-I can't imagine a holy,heavenly angel considering losing their position to share in satans fate...

                                                                                           God bless you,Kwik

 

On, I don't think so either Kwik , the angels were judged already in the beginning where 1/3 were cast out of heaven.

[other one]

On 8/22/2013 at 2:20 AM, kwikphilly said:

Dear Blessed,

         Personally I used to ponder that "because of the angels"exactly the way you are implying and then one day I was reading(a long time ago)and I had a beautiful revelation that the angels referred to here are the already fallen(demons)...they are after all,angels-.that is what came into the eyes of my heart and I have never since questioned it.I do remember thinking "Oh okay,thank you Jesus,that is simple enough"'

        I do hope it sounds as simple an explanation as it did me.....Oh ,and I seriously doubt that any one of Gods heavenly angels ever think about anything but serving and worshipping God,they have seen it ALL from the beginning-I can't imagine a holy,heavenly angel considering losing their position to share in satans fate...

                                                                                           God bless you,Kwik

I think you are probably correct Kwik, however if it was a temptation pre flood, I see no reason that it isn't a temptation now.....   even though I can agree with you we should respect those angels that watch over us now.

I might add that a few verses later.......

1 Cor 11:11-16

11 Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.

12 For as the woman is of the man, even so is the man also by the woman; but all things of God.

13 Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?

14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?

15 But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.

16 But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.
KJV

it seems to be saying that they do not have such a custom and this was just an issue in the Corinthian church....   which had a lot of problems going on there.

So I don't think we should make much of an issue about it.

 

[missmuffet]

Can angels who have not sinned sin in Heaven?

 

by Matt Slick

Angels who have not sinned from the beginning and are in Heaven will not sin because they were elected by God not to fall into sin (1 Timothy 5:21). Angels are ministering spirits who carry out the will of God (Psalm 103:20, Matt. 6:10), and they work against the fallen angels (demonic horde) who in turn work against God. Therefore, it seems that from the beginning, before the foundation of the world, the angelic realm made its decision, and one-third of the angels sided with Satan and rebelled against God (Revelation 12:4). Furthermore, we see no indication in Scripture that there will be a future rebellion of the angels who are now servants of God.

Finally, the presence of holiness, God's holiness, is a factor that cannot be overlooked. I am sure that these beings are--to some degree--experiencing the incredible holiness and purity of the Lord God and have also encountered the hideous evil of the fallen angels. It would make sense to say that given such awareness and experience and the fact they were elected not to fall, those angels who are presently with God will never rebel against Him.

https://carm.org/can-angels-sin-in-heaven

[other one]

I simply am not going to believe that God created at least 30 million angels that were destined to fall......   no matter how many times people preach it or write about it, I refuse to believe it.