Can people become an angel?

[Openly Curious]

There are definitely all kinds of unusual beings created by God in the celestial heavenly realm.  But we were created by God in the bodies of the terrestrial earthly realm.

[coheir]

 

 

 

the only angel in these verses is; " then the angel speaking with me" the two women with wings are not called angels so they may be evil spirits, they were dealing with evil also v8

 

 

good angels.....   bad angels......    description sounds like an angel......    I've never heard a demon described like that anywhere else......   the two that lived with us for a few years surely didn't look anything like that.

 

 

 Woah woah woah!  You have got to recount this story in far greater detail!

 

I've talked about it before and it would really take this thread into a different realm....... 

 

dont see any wings on the angels God sent to earth over the years. I found 68 listingsof angels none had wings.

So to say these two women are described as an angel where does that though come from?

thanks

[other one]

 

 

 

 

the only angel in these verses is; " then the angel speaking with me" the two women with wings are not called angels so they may be evil spirits, they were dealing with evil also v8

 

 

good angels.....   bad angels......    description sounds like an angel......    I've never heard a demon described like that anywhere else......   the two that lived with us for a few years surely didn't look anything like that.

 

 

 Woah woah woah!  You have got to recount this story in far greater detail!

 

I've talked about it before and it would really take this thread into a different realm....... 

 

dont see any wings on the angels God sent to earth over the years. I found 68 listingsof angels none had wings.

So to say these two women are described as an angel where does that though come from?

thanks

 

they are heavenly beings......   there are all kinds of entities that can be Gods workers......   I guess I just refer to them all as angels....    just different kinds......    There are the winged things that were represented on the ark of the covenant.   Archangels Cherubim and other kinds....    Angel is a generic term from my understanding of the word.     And at least two of them were female with wings.

[coheir]

 

 

 

 

 

the only angel in these verses is; " then the angel speaking with me" the two women with wings are not called angels so they may be evil spirits, they were dealing with evil also v8

 

 

good angels.....   bad angels......    description sounds like an angel......    I've never heard a demon described like that anywhere else......   the two that lived with us for a few years surely didn't look anything like that.

 

 

 Woah woah woah!  You have got to recount this story in far greater detail!

 

I've talked about it before and it would really take this thread into a different realm....... 

 

dont see any wings on the angels God sent to earth over the years. I found 68 listingsof angels none had wings.

So to say these two women are described as an angel where does that though come from?

thanks

 

they are heavenly beings......   there are all kinds of entities that can be Gods workers......   I guess I just refer to them all as angels....    just different kinds......    There are the winged things that were represented on the ark of the covenant.   Archangels Cherubim and other kinds....    Angel is a generic term from my understanding of the word.     And at least two of them were female with wings.

 

I see what you mean about Generic name. In the verses he speaks of  the Angel speaking to him. Now I would think he would recognize the two females as angels and call them angels; rather than call them women. So it looks like this one is confusing.

[other one]

i could certainly agree there...   but I'm really more interested in what was in the box....  but that's a whole different thing.

[Hobbes]

Can we become an angel after death? 

 

Not after death, but those that are saved believers that have been found abiding in Him and His words as His disciples by His grace & by His help, will be resurrected as those alive will be changed to be akin to angels when the Bridegroom comes to receive the ready bride at the pre tribulational rapture event.

 

Luke 20:³⁴ And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage: ³⁵ But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage: ³⁶ Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.

Edited August 17, 2014 by Hobbes

[Sevenseas]

If scriptures states that we will become as Christ when we see Him (and it does by the way), why do some folk insist we shall be like the angels, which are created beings?

 

I cannot find ANY reference in scripture that indicates we shall become like angels.....

 

 

 

 

 

Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.  I John 3:2

 

Equal to angels, in that resurrected bodies do not procreate, does not mean necessairly that we become angels...Jesus had a resurrected body...he had not become an angel

[Hobbes]

If scriptures states that we will become as Christ when we see Him (and it does by the way), why do some folk insist we shall be like the angels, which are created beings?

 

I cannot find ANY reference in scripture that indicates we shall become like angels.....

 

Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.  I John 3:2

 

See Post #92  Luke 20:34-36.  I must have posted it just before you did and maybe that is why you did not see it then.

 

As per your reference;  Jesus went through walls;  maybe those worthy to obtain that resurrection to be like angels will too?

[coheir]

 

Can we become an angel after death? 

 

Not after death, but those that are saved believers that have been found abiding in Him and His words as His disciples by His grace & by His help, will be resurrected as those alive will be changed to be akin to angels when the Bridegroom comes to receive the ready bride at the pre tribulational rapture event.

 

Luke 20:³⁴ And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage: ³⁵ But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage: ³⁶ Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.

 

we are to be like Jesus and he is NOT an angel we are to be like Jesus and HE is above angels. phillip 3:21

[Sevenseas]

 

If scriptures states that we will become as Christ when we see Him (and it does by the way), why do some folk insist we shall be like the angels, which are created beings?

 

I cannot find ANY reference in scripture that indicates we shall become like angels.....

 

Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.  I John 3:2

 

See Post #92  Luke 20:34-36.  I must have posted it just before you did and maybe that is why you did not see it then.

 

As per your reference;  Jesus went through walls;  maybe those worthy to obtain that resurrection to be like angels will too?

 

 

Jesus basically did many things we do not do even before His resurrection.  He is God.  God did not create people to be angels.  He created angels to be angels and human beings in

the image of Himself as per Genesis...1st chapter

 

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.  Gen 1:26

 

Therefore and even APART from what John writes, it does not seem angels are what God has in mind.  A spiritual body is a spiritual body no matter the title...however,

John indicates we shall have a resurrection body likened to the one Jesus had/has.

 

Further, believers will also judge angels...angels apparently, will not be judged by angels.  Angels are also not the reedeemed of God and they marvel at our redemption:

 

Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.   I Peter 1:12

 

How can someone ignore I John 3:2? and other like passages that are in agreement with what John writes?

 

As they were talking about these things, Jesus himself stood among them, and said to them, “Peace to you!” But they were startled and frightened and thought they saw a spirit. And he said to them, “Why are you troubled, and why do doubts arise in your hearts? See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself. Touch me, and see. For a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have.” And when he had said this, he showed them his hands and his feet.  Luke 24: 36-43 

 

 

Who will transform our lowly body to be like his glorious body, by the power that enables him even to subject all things to himself.  Phil 3:21

 

Jesus has a resurrected body...He is not an angel and we will have a body like His as when we see Him, we shall become LIKE Him.

 

I don't that is confusing or actually leaves room for conjecture regarding the op