WHY DID GOD CREATE EVIL?

[Sevenseas]

 

Can anyone explain?

why did God create evil?

Is He not a good God?

Is He not love?

If you can explain this,then you are on strong meat.

You have been weaned from the breast.

 

jesse

 

 

Not so fast.  Your op tells us that YOU determine who is mature and who is not mature.  Your op tells us that you are testing responses to see if people

know as much as you think you know.  

 

Next, you have a deficient understanding of the word in the original language that is translated as 'evil' .  The word translated as evil in Isaiah that you are using as your source

for your supposed paradox, is ra meaning, not evil, but something that is 'not good'.  It is from a root word meaning to be spoiled and actually means neither good or bad

but a condition that has occurred TO something.

 

Jeremiah 24:2 reads:  One basket had very good figs, like those that ripen early; the other basket had very bad figs, so bad they could not be eaten.

 

The Hebrew word translated as 'bad' in this verse from Jeremiah is the SAME word as the word in Isaiah that is translated as 'evil'...I am sure you will

agree that fruit is not evil; the figs were simply spoiled.  Even so, evil is the spoiling of the good God created.  He did not create evil as God is good and

He would not and has not created evil.

 

Put another way, evil is something that is spoiled, bad, adversarious, trouble, misfortune, calamity etc

 

 

Proverbs 15:10  Grievous punishment is for him who forsakes the way; He who hates reproof will die.

 

Grievous is the same Hebrew word that is often translated as 'evil'

 

So we can be assured that God did not create evil and we can also be assured that sometimes a person who thinks they know more actually may know less

then those they, for whatever reason, appear to want to either trick or expose into confessing a lack of knowledge

 

I do know you have approached a number of ops with the apparent intent of somehow teaching or revealing and I am not certain exactly where you stand in

what you believe about the Bible as a result of your line of questionning....to be clear, I am not attacking you as you stated to me in another thread.  I am

revealing an error which could lead some to a very wrong and false accusation against our Creator Who is perfect and Holy and has created all things with

love and purity.

 

God did not create evil

[Last Daze]

It is impossible for evil to dwell with our Heavenly Father (Psalms 5:4).

 

What are we thinking, that evil will still exist in God's Eternity of the new heavens and a new earth? God forbid, no!

 

If there will be no evil dwelling with Him in the future Eternity, then how is it we think evil existed with Him before this world, i.e., before Satan rebelled against Him?

 

The Isaiah 45:7 verse is often mis-applied to all time, when it is specific to this present world. In this present world God uses Satan as a punishing rod upon the wicked (per Isa.10), and allows His saints to be tried by him (like Job). God during this present world will even use an evil spirit to trick the foolish and haughty (Judges 9:23).

 

Just because one of the laws of nature regarding this present world is the law of opposites, that does not mean it was a law of the old world before Satan rebelled against Him, nor a law of the world to come. Rebellion will not happen a second time (Nahum 1:9).

 

Thus it is a mistake to compare the things of this present world with the world to come, or with the world of old when Satan was once perfect in his ways following God before he rebelled.

 

"Well God had to have created evil since He already knows everything before it happens, and knew Satan would rebel", some will say.

 

Yet our Heavenly Father said He created Satan perfect in his ways, and not evil, but iniquity was found in him (Ezek.28). Thus Satan committed the very first 'sin' (1 John 3:8), was first to break God's law, and thus evil must be assigned to Satan, and not to our Heavenly Father.

 

So how will evil, sin, and even death no longer exist in God's future Eternal Kingdom? It's because Satan will be no more, for all those things are assigned to him, and will perish with him in the "lake of fire", and be no more.

 

Well said Salty.

[Guest]

 

 

Good answers,but there is a but.

God is all knowing,He knows the end from the beginning.

Why did he craete lucifer knowing that he will be a trouble maker?

Why did God not refrain from creating lucifer?

Would one create a bomb knowing it will kill many? 

 

jesse.

I think this is a discussion forum.  What's your answer Jesse?

 

Just let it settle for a while.

 

jesse.

 

OK. It has settled for a while. What is your answer, Jesse?

[Guest]

My basic response would be, that the premise is wrong and it is a leading question. "why does God create evil", makes the presumption that He does indeed create evil. Apart from defining what evil is, the question is meaningless.

 

As was pointed out already, the Hebrew word "ra" used in yur 'proof text", can mean many things. ( http://biblehub.com/hebrew/7451.htm )

 

You could have asked : " Why does this verse say God created evil? ", but instead you appear to have taken a route that leads me to beleive that you just wanted to take a vain (and failed) attempt to demonstrate your superior intellect and knowledge. You seem bright enough to be able to do your own research, and if you had done so, you would have realized that that verse could have been translated as God created adversity. Instead of answering your own question with research, and understanding that and being satified with it, you made a choice to come and stir up this topic, and waste peoples times, since learning was not your motivation, apparently, neither was sharing knowledge.

 

When God sent a flood upon the Earth, destroying nearly all of mankind, He certainly created adversity, which was an 'evil' to those people. However, it was not evil in the sense of sin.

 

So, instead of good and evil in the vague sense that English allows, how about the more narrow ideas of God's will and perfection, and the alternative, falling short of that, what we know as sin.

 

When God created, He did not create sin, He created an environment, and all the things in it. This includes spirits, mass, energy, space, and time, and He declared it "good".

 

Of course it was good, because by definition, anything that is according to God's will, is good. Anything else, is sin, falling short of God's perfection. So, when Satan went against God's will, that was sin. When Adam chose to disobey God, that also was sin. God did not cuase disobedience.

 

When God creates a calamity like His judgments upon sinners, that might seem evil to those who experience those judgements, but since those judgements are God's will, they are good.

 

You made the point that there was something that God could not do. That is not a huge leap, the Bible itself tell us He cannot lie. There is a whole universe of things that God cannot do, he cannot do anything outside of His own will and nature, but we can do things outside of His will, and we do it all the time, we sin.

 

Somehow, people Got the idea, that God can do absolutely anything, and call that omnipotence. However, the biblical idea of omnipotence is not confounded by the foolish old question: "Can God create a rock so heavey that He cannot lift it?"

 

If He were to do that (logical, oxymoronic impossibility), He would be creating something that He cannot control, violating His own nature and will - again, that is back to sin, something God cannot do. When we say God is all powerful, we mean that all power that exists, belongs to God and is His to wield or to delegate, as He sees fit. 

 

Got anymore  contentious, disingenuous questions?

 

Why is this under the category of Prophecy anyway?

[rjp34652]

Can anyone explain?

why did God create evil?

Is He not a good God?

Is He not love?

If you can explain this,then you are on strong meat.

You have been weaned from the breast.

 

jesse

 

What is evil?

 

If you can explain that, then you know why its part of creation.

 

Hint: in order to explain evil, you must witness against yourself that you are infected with evil - or at least in part anyway.  (genesis 3)

 

and that's just me, hollering from the choir loft... 

[terraricca]

hi

 

me to i do not believe God as created "EVIL" this is imposible , 

as Jesse and salty mention it , 

[faith pleases God]

God is MIRACULOUS!! He takes ALL bad and makes it work together for the good of those that love Him.

[faith pleases God]

God is MIRACULOUS!! He takes ALL bad and makes it work together for the good of those that love Him.

It is to His glory that you have been given the freedom of will to choose to love Him or not love Him.

[Retrobyter]

Shalom, Jesse.

 

Can anyone explain?

why did God create evil?

Is He not a good God?

Is He not love?

If you can explain this,then you are on strong meat.

You have been weaned from the breast.

 

jesse

 

The simple answer is "evil" is the HOLE in the donut of "righteousness." It's the LACK of righteousness! God is all in all; therefore, to lack any part of God's attributes is to introduce "evil." Anytime there is a change in perfection, one acquires IMPERFECTION! It doesn't matter on which side of the mountain you move, if you move away from the pinnacle, you're going downhill!

 

And, if you are referring to Isaiah 45:7,

 

Isaiah 45:7

7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

KJV

 

you need to understand that THIS word translated "evil" specifically refers to the CONSEQUENCES for sin, not to the sin itself, as the word itself can also refer to a "crash" or "noise." For instance, the judgment on a nation because of their sins is such an "evil." The Scriptures talk about a bad storm being such an "evil." However, the storms we have are weather patterns that developed because we no longer have the same atmosphere after the Flood of Noach's day, and the Flood was a catastrophe brought on by the sins of those generations prior to the Flood!

 

When one introduces sin and transgression and trespasses, and shifts the balance to one side or another, it takes an equal and opposite force to shift the imbalance back to being perfectly balanced again. Thus, "punishment," although uncomfortable and hard, balances out the "sin," which is also uncomfortable and hard, mostly to God Himself.

 

So, getting back to the donut analogy, if God is love, then hatred (as the opposite of love) is the LACKING of God's love! Fear is the LACK of faith! Dishonoring one's parents is the LACK of love for one's parents! Murder is the LACK of love for that individual and his relatives and friends! Adultery is the LACK of love for one's spouse! Any sin against God or against another person is a LACK of its opposite righteousness!

 

That's how one can say, "Nothing is impossible with God" and "God cannot sin" without contradiction. Sin is not something that can be done; it's the LACK of doing the good one should do!

[other one]

Bad choice of example......   I had a dozen donut holes for breakfast.