Is Today, The Prophecy Of Iron & Clay ?

[RevelationWriter]

I wonder about Daniel's Prophecy

from The Image's Head of the golden era of Babylonian (Culture) 

which prevails  through unto this 4th final kingdom

Standing on the Feet of Iron & Clay are The Muslims today.

 

"There shall be a 4th kingdom Strong as Iron

just as Iron crushes and shatters everything

it shall crush and smash all these like Iron that crushes all the earth.

the feet and toes partly of Iron and partly of potter's Clay.

So the kingdom will be partly Strong and partly Brittle.

The Iron mixed with clay so will they intermingle with one another in marriage.

But they will not hold together. Just as Iron does not mix with Clay."

(From the Hebrew Dead Sea Scrolls Bible) Da.2:40-43

 

- ISIS Muslims,

are proving to be Strong as Iron crushing everything in it's path.

 

- More Moderate Muslims,

not adhering to them are breaking away as Iron does not mix with Clay.

 

[Alejandro84]

The 4th kingdom was the legs of iron which was pagan Rome the fifth of iron and clay feet is different, for its papal Rome,

[RevelationWriter]

- There are 9 scriptures that mention Rome.

And none are prophetic.

[Sister]

Revelation Writer.

 

It only describes the legs made out of Iron.  Which was Rome.

What comes after the legs, is another kingdom, which starts at the feet.  This was the British empire.  History can prove that.

This British empire has her roots in the iron (Rome), because it came out of Rome but is a mixed kingdom (iron and clay) and is in unity with many other nations.

 

The first beast which was wounded in Revelations, is this British empire. It was wounded in the 2nd world war, however still exists, and many are not aware of how much power and influence they have over the world's economy.

When it comes to the toes, this existing British empire will be transformed again, but stronger with new laws and a new system.  It will be a "New World Order". and will lead consisting of only 10 kings (10 nations), some weak, some strong (iron and clay),  They mingle but don't stick.

...But together they form a powerful kingdom, and out of them will spring up a new leader over them, the False Prophet.

The 10 kings are from the NORTH of Israel.  Europe.

The Muslim nations are from the SOUTH, and EAST of Israel.

The prophesies show that the 3rd world war will be between the King of the North and the Kings of the East.  This would be Iran and his allies (The Medes) (rev 16:12)

And in this great war, all nations will take their sides.

This battle will take place in Israel, just before the 2nd coming.

 

So the Muslem Nations are not part of that statue in Daniel.  They are not the clay.  But will fight against the iron and the clay.

 

 

The image is given in the days of Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon, and the prophecy is what comes after him. 

Before Nebuchadnezzar there were 2 ruling kingdoms.

1.  Egypt

2.  Assyria

These are past already

 

Babylon is the 3rd kingdom (head)

Medo/Persia the 4th, (breast & arms)

Grecia the 5th, (belly & thighs)

Rome the 6th, (legs)

Britain the 7th, (feet)

Reformed Britain will turn into the 8th kingdom. (toes) with a different name.

 

The beast has to be already existing at the time his deadly wound is healed.

 

 

The fourth beast in Daniel is a different vision.  It is describing the kings, not the kingdoms.

Rome is left out.

1st beast. King Darius (Medes)

2nd beast (4th king of Persia)

3rd beast (King Alexander of Greece)

 

now it skips to the end time beast (the False Prophet)

Rome was left out, because Britain came out of her, and is just an extension of Rome.

No King worthy of a mention in Rome, because there were so many, and ruled for so long.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Daniel 11:36]

The 4th kingdom of Daniel 7 is an exact description of the Muslim Middle East which includes the divided iron legs and the confederated feet and toes 

 

They have mingled by ethnic origins, and they do not cling together because of Islamic sectarianism

 

The kingdom has both strength and weakness

 

This kingdom has nothing to to with the ancient Roman Empire [this was the interpretative error of the reformation and re-constructionist  movements

 

The two iron legs represent the division of the northern Middle East and Egypt at the time of the end [just as did the two bronze thighs represent the same division just before the first century .... Antiochus IV was the last king of the north [Daniel 11:21-35] .... then the vision moves directly to the time appointed at the end of this present age .... to the little horn, the next and final king of the north [Daniel 11:36-45; 12:7]

 

The northern sector is the kingdom of the future little horn of Daniel's visions [Daniel 7:7-25; 8:9-25; 9:26-27 [the other prince that shall come]; 11:36-45; 12:7]

 

Notice that he will conquer the king of the south [Egypt]

 

Rome did not begin as two rival Middle Eastern kingdoms, one north and one south of Israel

 

The future little horn [king] is Satan's beast of Revelation, Abaddon/Apollyon .... this infernal rebel angel rules over the 7 Middle Eastern kingdoms [heads] for Satan [Revelation 9:11; 11:7; 13:1-4; 17:8-18] .... 5 have fallen and two are still pending .... the 6th will be his smaller kingdom of Iraq/Levant, and the 7th will be his expanded Middle Eastern kingdom with 10 divisions

 

In fact the Roman Empire is not seen in any prophetic vision, but only as a matter of historical record in the NT

 

The prophets record nothing of earthly events between the ending of the 69th week decreed for Israel at the Lord's cutting off [Daniel 9:26] .... and the beginning of the future 70th week still pending

 

The Lord and His prophets project this exact time same time lapse with a breach between the 69th and 70th weeks

 

The Lord speaks of the 70th week still pending in Matthew 24 and Luke 21:20-36 ... the time of Jacob's [israel's] trouble .... the same as the tribulation period that will come upon the whole world [Psalms 2; Revelation 3:10; 6:12-17]

 

70 AD was obviously not the time of the end described ..... and He speaks of Israel in both records of His discourse .... not the "church"

 

There are two common errors made with respect to the interpretation of Bible prophecy:

 

That the future 70th week was fulfilled, or partially fulfilled, in the first century and  that the Lord is finished with His nation of Israel which has become the "church" [replacement theology]

 

Both of these views are flawed and held by the majority of the various "church" movements today

 

Is ISIL the beginning of the 6th kingdom of the little horn and is Al Baghdadi the little horn?

 

.... to early to tell, but possible

 

The current setting looks very close to the prophetic visions .... nothing like this has emerged in any historical record

 

However, we must not jump to conclusions ..... but when the visions are fulfilled they will be 100% accurate just as recorded

 

I am posting on this subject in the exegetical [Eschatology] section of the forum .... Middle East Up Date 

Edited October 31, 2014 by Daniel 11:36

[Last Daze]

I wonder about Daniel's Prophecy

from The Image's Head of the golden era of Babylonian (Culture) 

which prevails  through unto this 4th final kingdom

Standing on the Feet of Iron & Clay are The Muslims today.

 

"There shall be a 4th kingdom Strong as Iron

just as Iron crushes and shatters everything

it shall crush and smash all these like Iron that crushes all the earth.

the feet and toes partly of Iron and partly of potter's Clay.

So the kingdom will be partly Strong and partly Brittle.

The Iron mixed with clay so will they intermingle with one another in marriage.

But they will not hold together. Just as Iron does not mix with Clay."

(From the Hebrew Dead Sea Scrolls Bible) Da.2:40-43

 

- ISIS Muslims,

are proving to be Strong as Iron crushing everything in it's path.

 

- More Moderate Muslims,

not adhering to them are breaking away as Iron does not mix with Clay.

 

I see the description of the feet of iron and clay as describing a multinational type government  such as the U.N. so, yes, I think we are seeing its fulfillment today.

 

There has to be a common denominator between the legs of iron (Rome) and the feet of iron and clay since they are referred to as the fourth kingdom, not the fourth and fifth.  The thing they have in common is not geography, but rather how they come into existence.  We know from Daniel 7 and 10 that certain fallen angels are in charge of bringing certain governments into a place of dominion.  The same fallen angel that caused Rome to exercise dominion will come out of the abyss in the last days per Rev 17 and cause another world power to emerge.  The common denominator is the fallen angel.

 

At first, the fallen angel works to bring about the feet of iron and clay.  He then uses this multinational government to facilitate the work of the 10 horns which ultimately leads to his man, the false prophet.

[Daniel 11:36]

I see no connection with the 4th Middle Eastern kingdom in the vision and any melding with a revived ancient Roman Empire

 

The other nations of the world are simply not in the vision except that many of the little horn's opposition from the same will be swept away [Daniel 11:44]

 

In addition, the capitalistic western domination of the earth will be destroyed [Revelation 14:8; 17:16-18]

 

The Euro-centric "UN" concepts of a global government will never materialize

 

The center stage of prophetic end time events will be Israel and the tiny nation's enemies round about .... the Muslims and the Middle East   

[RevelationWriter]

- Jesus told the churches that Satan's Throne is in Pergamus/Turkey. - Rev.2:12

 

- And the Dragon shall give his Throne to the Beast. - Rev.13:2

 

- The Dragon that Serpent of old called the Devil and Satan. - Rev.12:9

[other one]

- Jesus told the churches that Satan's Throne is in Pergamus/Turkey. - Rev.2:12

 

- And the Dragon shall give his Throne to the Beast. - Rev.13:2

 

- The Dragon that Serpent of old called the Devil and Satan. - Rev.12:9

interestingly that throne was moved to Germany.....    and our present president accepted the Democratic Nomination on a Replica of it.

 

don't know if it really matters, but the Bible does say where the alter is, not where it was.

[Bible_Gazer]

So how is the kingdom of God on earth going to break in pieces and consume the Metalic Image(Muslim World ??) by Military(Crusaders) or is it by conversions ?

 

When will God's Kingdom do this ?