what is the biblically correct response to a specific crime by spouse

[other one]

42 minutes ago, MorningGlory said:

You think it's all about 'misbehaving teens'?  There are INFANTS that have been raped by pedophiles so, yes, I think the state definitely should be actively involved in the matter.  Taking sexually explicit photos of young children is sick and perverted.  People did marry very young in the past but we don't live then.  Would you let your nine year old daughter marry? Is it okay to take pictures of a five year old nude or to make videos of young children being raped to sell?  Educate yourself and find out what kind of harm can be done to children by stuff like this.  I see you're into conspiracy theories; the state created the problem and  politicians want to keep pedophiles in prison to enrich themselves?  Do you not understand that the citizens demand it?  And this 'Pizzagate' is a fake news story; look it up.

MG, the Pizza place is a false story, but the background sex trafficking may well not be.  That is what Breitbart was working on when he died. In my opinion the pizzagate story is something planted to deflect people from really looking into the subject rationally.

[Jayne]

52 minutes ago, MorningGlory said:

You think it's all about 'misbehaving teens'?  There are INFANTS that have been raped by pedophiles so, yes, I think the state definitely should be actively involved in the matter.  Taking sexually explicit photos of young children is sick and perverted.  People did marry very young in the past but we don't live then.  Would you let your nine year old daughter marry? Is it okay to take pictures of a five year old nude or to make videos of young children being raped to sell?  Educate yourself and find out what kind of harm can be done to children by stuff like this.  I see you're into conspiracy theories; the state created the problem and  politicians want to keep pedophiles in prison to enrich themselves?  Do you not understand that the citizens demand it?  And this 'Pizzagate' is a fake news story; look it up.

Absolutely!!

Having taught school for 32 years - 27 in the public school and 5 in the Christian schools - I can wholeheartedly agree with you about this NOT being about "teen's misbehaving".

This is about adults - men AND women - perversely and grotesquely abusing a child's body for their own sexual gratification.  I've seen it from nursery school to junior high.  It's sick - NOT the child's fault - and so many times the child or teen is brainwashed with a fear of being killed that they won't tell.

I don't say this lightly or in hyperbole, but I could tell you stories that you make you be depressed the rest of the day and maybe even sick.  It's just that bad and horrible perverted.

I'll tell none of those stories today or any other time.  I'll just say that public school or Christian school -it made no difference.  And the child is never at fault.

 

[Jayne]

6 minutes ago, other one said:

MG, the Pizza place is a false story, but the background sex trafficking may well not be.  That is what Breitbart was working on when he died. In my opinion the pizzagate story is something planted to deflect people from really looking into the subject rationally.

I agree.  Pizzagate is false.  Sex trafficking is real.

[mikefromwichita]

3 hours ago, MorningGlory said:

.........................And this 'Pizzagate' is a fake news story; look it up.

Such deep trust in the MSM, sad.

[MorningGlory]

2 hours ago, mikefromwichita said:

Such deep trust in the MSM, sad.

Both CNN and Fox News has found the story to be false.  And, just for the record, I have NO trust in the MSM.  Please don't foist your assumptions on me.

[mikefromwichita]

13 hours ago, MorningGlory said:

Both CNN and Fox News has found the story to be false.  And, just for the record, I have NO trust in the MSM.  Please don't foist your assumptions on me.

and yet you just quoted the MSM.

[kwikphilly]

Blessings......

   I really have not read all these pages of replies,& won't......I think I prefer to stay on Topic

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This topic came up in our household based on the subway spokesman charges. Im curious what your responses are.

 

A spouse looks at inappropriate material (child porn) but does not engage in it with anyone. Only views it online. Obviously a crime and needs to be dealt with. What is a biblically correct response by the spouse? Is it acceptable biblically to divorce the spouse in this instance?                           Jade

And Omegamans response

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I would opine that is might well be Biblically allowable, just as divorce itself is Biblically allowable. That is to say that is might be within God's permissive will, but not was He desires. As you know, He allows some things because of the hardness of our hearts. I think things like love, healing, forgiveness, etc, are a higher calling.

When Jesus made allowance for divorce, He used the Greek word porniea (I think I spelled that right). Some of our translations make that out to be "fornication". but it is a broader term that fornication. Some translations use the word 'immorality', but that is way to broad, we are all immoral.

Sexual immorality is probably a good way to translate it, but even narrowing that down could be tough. What one person consider immoral, another considers normal. I feel safe in saying that whatever God has specifically allowed, is o.k. (read here hetero relations within marriage) and using the body as it was intended. Beyond that I feel like I would be going out on a limb, and no one should act in a way that is against their own conscience, but I do not think that means that you can divorce a person for doing something just because it would violate your conscience if you did it.

One thing I feel reasonably confident in saying, is that a person should not use it as an excuse to divorce, when the person was wanting to divorce and was just waiting for a chance to justify it. We usually say things like "for better and for worse, til death do we part".

Question: Did we mean it when we took a vow?                                                 Omegaman

I too would have to ask myself that question......What about the vow,before God "For better or worse"

How can one know anything about 'Biblical correctness" if they are not Eternal Minded & putting God First in their daily lives,obviously someones "mind" is not on God,His Ways or His Word if they are wandering off into these carnal minded thoughts,pleasures,lusts etc......it is not time to focus on the crime/sin but on the Deliverer of these strongholds......we have a common enemy,it is all the same problem & the same cure.....the enemy is busy doing what he does best,recognize & address the bondage,it is as though the 2 have become unequally yoked,isn't it........It is time to run to the Lord,the Only One that matters...time to remind the spouse WHO is the Center of our Lives and seek His Council,His Love,Healing,Deliverance & Forgiveness      In Christ Jesus             With love-in Christ,Kwik

[other one]

the Word allows divorce from adultery, but does not demand it..

[GoldenEagle]

On ‎8‎/‎21‎/‎2015 at 1:27 AM, ayin jade said:

This topic came up in our household based on the subway spokesman charges. Im curious what your responses are.

A spouse looks at inappropriate material (child porn) but does not engage in it with anyone. Only views it online. Obviously a crime and needs to be dealt with. What is a biblically correct response by the spouse? Is it acceptable biblically to divorce the spouse in this instance? 

(Minor rant. Jadey hates having to scroll allllll the way down just to start a topic.)

It probably would depend on the situation. No doubt it's a crime.

Some would say love the person. Others would say you don't have to stay in such a relationship. Still others would recommend at least a separation and some serious counseling.

I recently found out some friends will be getting divorced after less than 2 years of marriage. Turns out one spouse (the husband) is HIV positive and the disease has progressed to AIDS. I feel terribly sorry for this young wife.

We live in a fallen world.

God bless,
GE

[Tjm6]

On December 5, 2016 at 11:53 PM, Marilyn C said:

Hi Tjm6,

My heart goes out to you. How utterly devastating. I will pray for you & your husband. Trust is broken.

Do you know the Lord? Do you know how to reach out to Him?

regards, Marilyn.

I do. Other wise I'm sure I would be a heap load more of a mess than what I already am. My husband is a Christian as well, which blows me away even more. I guess we all have our sins we struggle with, harboring bad feelings, eating to much, getting angry, but this destroys his family to its core. How could he! I don't really even know how to pray right now. My mind feels blank. I can't even think of what to get the kids for Christmas. I've lost all of my energy to do anything. You know.