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http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/23/dismay-left-pope-francis-canonizes-father-california/

While the left wingers are unhappy about the "canonization" of Junipero Serra (see above) by Pope Francis, Christians need to ask themselves whether this idea of "canonization" has any validity whatsoever.  Every person who is saved by God's grace is a saint.


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I personally don't understand the whole concept of canonization.  Serra was just a man and, as such, is no more exalted in the eyes of God than you or I


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http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/23/dismay-left-pope-francis-canonizes-father-california/

While the left wingers are unhappy about the "canonization" of Junipero Serra (see above) by Pope Francis, Christians need to ask themselves whether this idea of "canonization" has any validity whatsoever.  Every person who is saved by God's grace is a saint.

Do you know what cannonization means?


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I am trying to stay away from the Pope and Catholic issues on Worthy right now since it is bringing a lot of anger and controversy.


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I personally don't understand the whole concept of canonization.  Serra was just a man and, as such, is no more exalted in the eyes of God than you or I

Cannonization doesn't exalt them higher than we are in the eyes of God.

 


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From Wikipedia:

In the Roman Catholic Church (both the Latin Catholic Church and Eastern Catholic Churches), the act of canonization is reserved to the Holy See and occurs at the conclusion of a long process requiring extensive proof that the person proposed for canonization lived and died in such an exemplary and holy way that he or she is worthy to be recognized as a saint. The Church's official recognition of sanctity implies that the persons are now in heavenly glory, that they may be publicly invoked and mentioned officially in the liturgy of the Church

 

Appears to be an act which has no biblical basis or worth? 


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From Wikipedia:

In the Roman Catholic Church (both the Latin Catholic Church and Eastern Catholic Churches), the act of canonization is reserved to the Holy See and occurs at the conclusion of a long process requiring extensive proof that the person proposed for canonization lived and died in such an exemplary and holy way that he or she is worthy to be recognized as a saint. The Church's official recognition of sanctity implies that the persons are now in heavenly glory, that they may be publicly invoked and mentioned officially in the liturgy of the Church

 

Appears to be an act which has no biblical basis or worth? 

Holding up people who have lived holy lives to be examples to others has no basis in scripture?

Philippians 3:17 

Join together in following my example, brothers and sisters, and just as you have ... pattern your lives after mine, and learn from those who follow our example.

 

Giving honor to whom honor is due has no basis in scripture?

Romans 13:7

Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor.

 


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http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/23/dismay-left-pope-francis-canonizes-father-california/

While the left wingers are unhappy about the "canonization" of Junipero Serra (see above) by Pope Francis, Christians need to ask themselves whether this idea of "canonization" has any validity whatsoever.  Every person who is saved by God's grace is a saint.

Do you know what cannonization means?

Yes. I do know what canonization means, and since you spelled it with two nns, perhaps you need to figure out what it means. Here's what the New Advent Catholic Encyclopedia says:

Canonization in the Catholic Church is quite another thing. The Catholic Church canonizes or beatifies only those whose lives have been marked by the exercise of heroic virtue, and only after this has been proved by common repute for sanctity and by conclusive arguments. The chief difference, however, lies in the meaning of the term canonization, the Church seeing in the saints nothing more than friends and servants of God whose holy lives have made them worthy of His special love. She does not pretend to make gods (cf. Eusebius Emisenus, Serm. de S. Rom. M.; Augustine, City of God XXII.10; Cyrill. Alexandr., Contra Jul., lib. VI; Cyprian, De Exhortat. martyr.; Conc. Nic., II, act. 3).

God makes EVERY SINNER A SAINT by the gift of the Holy Spirit, when they believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.  The Catholic Church makes a few individuals "saints" because they are deemed "worthy".  BIG DIFFERENCE.  If Junipero Serra was indeed saved by grace, then he was already a saint, but no more of a saint than any believer in Christ (Rom 1:7): To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called [to be] saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

The reason "to be" is in italics and in square brackets is because it was added by the translators. All the Christians in Rome were "CALLED SAINTS" by God, because they were already "BELOVED OF GOD".  So what we have in "canonization" is another example of false doctrine.


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The concept of catholic canonization is patently absurd. All are saints who have accepted Christ, as is repeatedly referenced all throughout the new testament. This is simply non-biblical man-made tradition being thrust upon the body of believers, writ large, by a single church which has no standing in which to make such declarations, specifically because such declarations are non-biblical.

Also, Therese, the scriptures which you posted to support canonization do not mention canonization. The functional representative result of this practice is that the catholic church has self anointed the decision of whom gets called a saint and then further only "canonizes" catholics. This is blatantly non-biblical to an absurd degree.

1Co_1:2  To the church of God which is at Corinth, to those who are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all who in every place call on the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours: 

1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints.

Eph_1:1  Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, To the saints who are in Ephesus, and faithful in Christ Jesus: 

Three of dozens of verses that refer to the body of Christ as saints.

Canonization is an incredibly unfortunate practice that should indeed be challenged as scripturally errant to the highest of degrees.

 


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I personally don't understand the whole concept of canonization.  Serra was just a man and, as such, is no more exalted in the eyes of God than you or I

Cannonization doesn't exalt them higher than we are in the eyes of God.

Actually it does.  These saints enter into the Liturgy of the RCC and they can be prayed to. Check out the Catholic Encyclopedia for a detailed discussion.

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