DO YOU BELIEVE ITS OKAY TO EAT PORK, AS A BELIEVER IN GOD ?

[enoob57]

Pig out  

[Your closest friendnt]

44 minutes ago, MorningGlory said:

I thought this thread was about eating pork. 

That one was about spiritual pork

[MorningGlory]

Just now, Your closest friendnt said:

That one was about spiritual pork

This thread is about dietary laws and whether we are bound by them.  It has gotten way, way off topic.

[Your closest friendnt]

2 minutes ago, MorningGlory said:

This thread is about dietary laws and whether we are bound by them.  It has gotten way, way off topic.

The OP allows or restricts

[MorningGlory]

23 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

The OP allows or restricts

The 'OP' is no longer a member here, nt.

[Your closest friendnt]

7 minutes ago, MorningGlory said:

The 'OP' is no longer a member here, nt.

Hello MG, good to hear from you, I know about the OP, I was just been ridiculous. 

[Qnts2]

7 hours ago, MorningGlory said:

The 'OP' is no longer a member here, nt.

I am very sorry to learn this. I liked the OP and saw him as a seeker with a great desire to study. I will miss him. 

[walla299]

19 hours ago, MorningGlory said:

I thought this thread was about eating pork. 

It is. Pass the bacon & sausage, please.

 

[Riccardo]

On November 5, 2015 at 0:08 PM, Ezra said:

The dietary laws of the Old Covenant are now null and void. The restrictions on what Christians should or should not eat are in Acts 15 (going back to Noah's Covenant). But all meats may be eaten according to 1 Timothy 4:3-5.  As Jesus said, it is not what goes in which defiles, but what comes out of man.  Yes you can eat all the bacon you want, but if you engage in gluttony, you have already crossed the line.

Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

BTW this should be moved out of the Prophecy section.

Hello Ezra,

I'm a bit perplexed by you quoting Acts 15 it seems very presumptuous of you to include that as to being able to eat unclean animals. Is it Acts 15:19-20 that brings you to that conclusion? if not could you direct me to the verse please supporting your stance, I would appreciate it. You have 1Timothy 4:3-5 but  quote Mk 7:18-20  simple error as you  do have 1Timothy in blue I see.  

In Mk7 the whole issue is ceremonial hand washing. The pharisees had very strict in regard to ceremonial hand washing. With this in mind Jesus points this out the pharisees placing tradition over Gods laws. Jesus comments Mk7.15 there is nothing that enters a man from the out side that can (defile him). Verse 18 says the same. The topic has not changed it is still all about defilement, ceremonial washing.  Verse 19 is where most interpretation get lost due to extremely bad bible translations, though some have translated it correctly. Verse 19. because it does not enter a mans heart but his stomach, & is eliminated thus purging all foods. this means going to the toilet. ( it does not say thus purifying all foods. (That's not in manuscripts what so ever) Jesus did not consider unclean animals food They were scavengers never to be eaten & a sin against Gods Food laws in Isaiah 66:17 is about Jesus second coming it says those eating swine's flesh shall be consumed. I can't imagine one group of people being given the death sentence wile the other group is pardoned for exactly the same thing. In your reading of 1Timothy you mention commanding us to abstain from (meats) the word is Broma meaning food, but even if it was meat it says, (which God hath created to be received) God didn't create unclean animals to be received. 

If we have different thoughts on it brother thats fine, if you want to go into it more I am happy

God bless

[coheir]

Gen 9:3-4

3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.

4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.

Matt 15:17

17 Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught?

Mark 7:18

18 Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught?

This last verse is Jesus speaking, red letter

we should accept what the bible says.

Edited July 12, 2016 by coheir
correct spelling