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Do Devils or Demons Ever Heal People?


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On 3/20/2017 at 9:28 PM, JTC said:

I've been wondering about this for some time. The only scripture references I know of are in Matt 12, 25 & 26 where Jesus is accused of casting out demons by the power of the devil. Jesus makes the point that if Satan were to let his power be used for good, such as casting out a demon, he'd be a kingdom divided. Jesus went on to say a divided kingdom can't survive. Based on this I don't think devils and demons would heal anyone. (Btw, the same account is in Mark 3: 23-26 and also Luke 11: 16-19) Does anyone have any other ideas?

No not to my knowledge. They oppress people

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Just now, worthy said:

No not to my knowledge. They oppress people

Amen Worthy, they can oppress people but that's it..

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Just now, worthy said:

No not to my knowledge. They oppress people

I have read scriptures in revelations saying they will do miracles. But I don't know for sure if that means healing people. I shall have to look into it to give you a more accurate answer

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 Jas 1:17  NKJV Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and comes down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow of turning.

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37 minutes ago, Willa said:

 Jas 1:17  NKJV Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and comes down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow of turning.

The Devil blesses , prospers, promotes, success in besiness, favors, heals and can tell the future. All those are good gifts, but they don't come from above. 

Paul said we should not be ignorant of the devices of the Devil. What if a man wins the whole world, but he looses his own shole. 

Someone received a cash gift from a stranger , and he kept thanking JESUS CHRIST, till the police arrested him, for possession of marked and counter fate money. 

This lady very excited to get a job the whole church prayed for. 

And the elders did not listen to the message of the Lord by a stranger, whom the Lord sent to tell them, that the Lord will open another door, and not to take this job , no only she , but not anyone else. 

After the elders called him a false prophet, and deceived, the Lady took the job, and before too long she was pregnant with her married boss. 

We need to be careful, not everyone who is good manners, is a good person. 

Not anyone who gives candy is a sweet person. 

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3 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

The Devil blesses , prospers, promotes, success in besiness, favors, heals and can tell the future. All those are good gifts, but they don't come from above. 

Paul said we should not be ignorant of the devices of the Devil. What if a man wins the whole world, but he looses his own shole. 

Someone received a cash gift from a stranger , and he kept thanking JESUS CHRIST, till the police arrested him, for possession of marked and counter fate money. 

This lady very excited to get a job the whole church prayed for. 

And the elders did not listen to the message of the Lord by a stranger, whom the Lord sent to tell them, that the Lord will open another door, and not to take this job , no only she , but not anyone else. 

After the elders called him a false prophet, and deceived, the Lady took the job, and before too long she was pregnant with her married boss. 

We need to be careful, not everyone who is good manners, is a good person. 

Not anyone who gives candy is a sweet person. 

Yes,  the whole world is deceived, whether easily, or not.  (SCRIPTURE says so).

Yes,  missionaries around the world for hundreds of years have reported not only healing but raising the dead being 'routine' (like in china and africa) amongst the devil worshipers.   No big surprise to them.  It is always to deceive people, and to keep them deceived.  

Here's YHWH'S WORD to healing at the pool,  where many people (but only one at a time when the angel moved the water) were healed.   (Many more were healed in a short time by the handkerchiefs of the APOSTLES of JESUS,  and for a time even by one's shadow touching the sick.).

American King James Version
For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water: whoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatever disease he had.

American Standard Version
for an angel of the Lord went down at certain seasons into the pool, and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the waters stepped in was made whole, with whatsoever disease he was holden.

Douay-Rheims Bible
And an angel of the Lord descended at certain times into the pond; and the water was moved. And he that went down first into the pond after the motion of the water, was made whole, of whatsoever infirmity he lay under.

Darby Bible Translation
For an angel descended at a certain season in the pool and troubled the water. Whoever therefore first went in after the troubling of the water became well, whatever disease he laboured under.]

English Revised Version


Webster's Bible Translation
For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and agitated the water: whoever then first after the stirring of the water stepped in, was cured of whatever disease he had.

Weymouth New Testament


World English Bible
for an angel went down at certain times into the pool, and stirred up the water. Whoever stepped in first after the stirring of the water was made whole of whatever disease he had.

Young's Literal Translation
for a messenger at a set time was going down in the pool, and was troubling the water, the first then having gone in after the troubling of the water, became whole of whatever sickness he was held.
Commentary
Matthew Henry Commentary
5:1-9 We are all by nature impotent folk in spiritual things, blind, halt, and withered; but full provision is made for our cure, if we attend to it. An angel went down, and troubled the water; and what disease soever it was, this water cured it, but only he that first stepped in had benefit. This teaches us to be careful, that we let not a season slip which may never return. The man had lost the use of his limbs thirty-eight years. Shall we, who perhaps for many years have scarcely known what it has been to be a day sick, complain of one wearisome night, when many others, better than we, have scarcely known what it has been to be a day well? Christ singled this one out from the rest. Those long in affliction, may comfort themselves that God keeps account how long. Observe, this man speaks of the unkindness of those about him, without any peevish reflections. As we should be thankful, so we should be patient. Our Lord Jesus cures him, though he neither asked nor thought of it. Arise, and walk. God's command, Turn and live; Make ye a new heart; no more supposes power in us without the grace of God, his distinguishing grace, than this command supposed such power in the impotent man: it was by the power of Christ, and he must have all the glory. What a joyful surprise to the poor cripple, to find himself of a sudden so easy, so strong, so able to help himself! The proof of spiritual cure, is our rising and walking. Has Christ healed our spiritual diseases, let us go wherever he sends us, and take up whatever he lays upon us; and walk before him.

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"Satan wants you to believe that the beast is in the Abyss."

 

The beast is in the abyss and will come out to rule over his 6th and 7th kingdoms during the coming tribulation period [Revelation 9:11] .... Satan will make certain  of this [Revelation 13:1-4]

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56 minutes ago, Davida said:

By the way , I do not believe it is 'real" true healing but demonic counterfeit  to GOD's real healing. The benny hinns of the world do they produce any healing? some say so, but is "real an actual healing?" and are these manifestations from GOD? or is it through another spirit?

No they don't. IMO Benny hinn does not heal by the power of the most high God.

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3 hours ago, Daniel 11:36 said:

"Satan wants you to believe that the beast is in the Abyss."

 

3 hours ago, Daniel 11:36 said:

The beast is in the abyss and will come out to rule over his 6th and 7th kingdoms during the coming tribulation period [Revelation 9:11] ..

 

3 hours ago, Daniel 11:36 said:

 

Satan will make certain  of this [Revelation 13:1-4]

 

Many may misanderdood the strong emphasis, it sounds like this is a message from Satan.

From my understanding we see the signs and the work of the beast at hand.

We do not get to see the beast. 

Anyway who knows, only the giver of those visions and words knows for sure. 

I leave it at that, and God bless,

I stayed away from these controversies. 

3 hours ago, Daniel 11:36 said:

 

 

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But it is the only way to understand the Bible

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