7 TIPS FOR PREPARING FOR THE GREAT TRIBULATION

[OneLight]

2 minutes ago, Daniel 11:36 said:

Good for you, but the keeping of His own will be different as stated in scripture .... Revelation 3:10

Then just after will He bring His tribulation and judgment upon a world of unbelief

I think the point you are missing is that we, the true children of God, are not among the world that does not reject Him in unbelief.  We also need to keep in mind that chapters 2 and 3 from Revelation is speaking to the seven churches, that which John has seen.  Revelation is given to John from three different timelines: which you have seen, and the things which are, and the things which will take place after this.  The first is what John has seen, the seven churches, as Jesus speaks to what He has seen in each church and what will happen if they do not repent.  As much as people want to say they are different time frames of the church age, they are not.  We can, if we are wise enough, reflect on what Jesus warned them about and learn for ourselves not to repeat the same sins.

[Daniel 11:36]

 I believe that the messages to the Lord's church are still on going and will not close until the tribulation period begins

There is no mention of how long .... the Lord has not revealed the time of His visitation

Edited February 11, 2018 by Daniel 11:36

[Last Daze]

17 hours ago, Daniel 11:36 said:

Revelation

3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth

One will either be kept from the tribulation period, or will not .... believe this

Those who become believers during the tribulation period will either die and be raised at the end of it [Revelation 20:1-4], or will get through it and enter the Lord's millennial kingdom as mortals [Revelation 14:13; Matthew 24:29-31 [Israel]; Matthew 25:31-40 [Gentiles] 

Being "kept" does not necessarily mean to be taken out of the world.

• I do not ask You to take them out of the world, but to keep them from the evil one.  I do not ask on behalf of these alone, but for those also who believe in Me through their word.  John 17:15,20

Keep the word of His perseverance by rejecting the mark and image.  Then He will keep you from the hour of temptation.  There is no mention of any "tribulation period" in that passage.  I would caution against embellishing the word of God.

[Daniel 11:36]

 "I would caution against embellishing the word of God."

 

Do not reject the Lord's word .... you may be on His list for destruction 

[Last Daze]

On 2/10/2018 at 9:35 AM, Montana Marv said:

Jesus Christ is blowing this trumpet, not God the Father calling us up.

In Christ

Montana Marv

This is a new twist.  Care to elaborate?  With scripture?

[Last Daze]

5 hours ago, Daniel 11:36 said:

 "I would caution against embellishing the word of God."

 

Do not reject the Lord's word .... you may be on His list for destruction 

I don't reject the word of God.  I reject your embellishment of it.  You equate the hour of testing in Revelation 3:10 to some notion of "the tribulation" without offering any scriptural support, and then say this proves pretrib.  You do this repeatedly.

And then if I don't buy into your baseless argument, I might be on His list for destruction?  It's a shame that you would resort to this type of intimidation instead of presenting an argument based on scripture, but I know why you don't.

Heed the words of Jesus and stay ready.  The rapture thing will take care of itself.  It's up to you to take care of you.

• What I say to you I say to all, ‘Be on the alert!’  Mark 13:37

[Daniel 11:36]

I post many attributes of the pre-tribulation activity in addition to Revelation 3:10

Here are a few

[1 Corinthians 15:20-32; 15:51-58; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18; 5:1-9; 2 Thessalonians 2:1; Revelation 3:10; 4:4; 5:1-10; 7:9-17; 11:1; 13:5; 17:14; 18:4; 19:14; 20:4 .... those on thrones]

  

[Sister]

On 2/12/2018 at 4:54 AM, Daniel 11:36 said:

Revelation

3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth

One will either be kept from the tribulation period, or will not .... believe this

Those who become believers during the tribulation period will either die and be raised at the end of it [Revelation 20:1-4], or will get through it and enter the Lord's millennial kingdom as mortals [Revelation 14:13; Matthew 24:29-31 [Israel]; Matthew 25:31-40 [Gentiles] 

Daniel

To be kept from the hour of temptation, is to resist whatever is being offered. 

Delivered from taking the bait.

The final last temptation that will try the whole world is the mark of the beast.  It will seem attractive, with many perks, but he who is kept from this temptation knows that it is a lure of the devil in disguise, .....a trap, because he who is loved by the Lord has been given the knowledge of exactly what it will lead to,...a final spiritual death, so will therefore say no to this attractive offer. 

The unbelieving will fall into this trap.  Will not be delivered, nor kept, but will accept and unknowingly be led to the slaughter house.

[JoeCanada]

The Day and Hour No Man Knows

The phrase used by Jesus in Matt. 24:36 is peculiar. The “day and hour that no one knows” was a Jewish idiom in Jesus’s day. It was a “code” word for the Jewish Holiday, Yom Teruah (which today is referred to as Rosh Hashan.

 Jesus frequently used Jewish idioms in his teaching, so idiom usage was not unusual or unexpected. In Matt. 8:11, Jesus referred to the “feast” and “Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.” In the first century, Israelites believed the honored guests at the wedding feast in the Millennial Kingdom would be the “seven shepherds:” Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, and King David. By referring to a feast and the first three of the honored guests, Jesus’s audience understood him.

When Jesus called Nathaniel as a disciple, he mentioned he saw him “under the fig tree” (John 1:48).  In the First Century this idiom referred to study of the Torah in the Millennial Kingdom (using a reference to Micah 4:4 and Zech. 3:10)[ii]. All of Jesus’s words were carefully chosen and understood by his audience although we may misinterpret them today. This includes the phrase “the day and hour no man knows.”

Joseph Lenard and Donald Zoller in their landmark book The Last Shofar express the question about Yom Teruah this way:

“How can such an apparent contradiction be reconciled with Matthew 24:36 and other Scriptures so as to let us know the date without knowing the day or hour?”[iii] – Lenard and Zoller

The authors make an important distinction between date and day; a distinction that eludes most western commentators. The date of Yom Teruah is Tishri 1 on the Jewish lunar calendar. This date is known as the “Hidden Day” (Yom Hakeseh) or the “day and hour that no man knows.” Yom Teruah falls on the first of the month, and the first day of each Jewish month is determined by the sighting of a New Moon. Because this is also the first day of the New Year and a MO’EDIM (Yom Teruah), this sighting is of particular importance. In biblical times, two witnesses were assigned this task by the Sanhedrin. This sighting (by the two witnesses) can take place on either of two possible days and at any hour of the night. Thus the date is known: Tishri 1, but the day and hour of this sighting is unknown.

After the sighting of the new moon, the High Priest ordered the blowing of trumpets. This is of incredible importance in understanding Jesus’s phrase in Matt. 24:36. All of the inhabitants of Jerusalem could look up at the waning moon and observe the moment the last sliver became dark, but that was not Yom Teruah. The MO’EDIM did not begin until the High Priest and the Sanhedrin announced it was Yom Teruah.

In the Olivet Discourse, Jesus prophesied many detailed aspects of the time prior to his return. He is God after all. Yet, western commentators would have us believe God the Son doesn’t know the day of his own return. Rather, what Jesus’s statement about “only the Father” knowing may have meant: “it isn’t the Yom Teruah (of the Rapture) until God the Father announces it’s Yom Teruah.” Only the Father knows; only the Father announces it. This parallels the system used in ancient Israel where the High Priest announced the MO’EDIM and ordered the blowing of trumpets. God the Father will announce the blowing of the Last Trumpet.

 The Greek word translated “knows” in Matt. 24:36 is EIDO which primarily means “to see, to perceive or to know because you perceive.” Translated that way, the verse would read:

But of that day and hour no one SEES, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone. (Matt. 24:36)

 Yom Teruah is known as the Feast of the Blowing of Trumpets, including the Last Trumpet (TEKIAH GADOLAH [1 Cor. 15:52]). In Jewish thought, there were three trumpet blasts on MO’EDIM. The First Trumpet was blown on Pentecost or Shavuot and the Last Trumpet was blown on Yom Teruah. The Final or Great Trumpet was blown on Yom Kippur of Jubilee years to announce the Jubilee.  So when Paul referred to the Last Trumpet in 1 Cor. 15:52, this was a specific reference to Yom Teruah.

 

[Last Daze]

1 hour ago, JoeCanada said:

The Day and Hour No Man Knows

The authors make an important distinction between date and day; a distinction that eludes most western commentators. The date of Yom Teruah is Tishri 1 on the Jewish lunar calendar. This date is known as the “Hidden Day” (Yom Hakeseh) or the “day and hour that no man knows.” Yom Teruah falls on the first of the month, and the first day of each Jewish month is determined by the sighting of a New Moon. Because this is also the first day of the New Year and a MO’EDIM (Yom Teruah), this sighting is of particular importance. In biblical times, two witnesses were assigned this task by the Sanhedrin. This sighting (by the two witnesses) can take place on either of two possible days and at any hour of the night. Thus the date is known: Tishri 1, but the day and hour of this sighting is unknown.

Interesting.