catholic coverups

[simplejeff]

7 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

Our weapons are SPIRITUAL so its not carnal war I speak of.     Souls must hear the truth and frankly it aint coming from most pulpits

Amen brother,  and as you know also,  A CHANGE OF HEART is required,  and cannot be accomplished by us for someone else.  No amount of posts or threads or references or "evidence' will change anyone's heart to save them from the deception they are trapped in/ deceived by.  Only Hope and Great Joy is in seeking GOD for His Freedom in Jesus , for everyone who wants to share in HIS LIFE.

[frienduff thaylorde]

41 minutes ago, simplejeff said:

Amen brother,  and as you know also,  A CHANGE OF HEART is required,  and cannot be accomplished by us for someone else.  No amount of posts or threads or references or "evidence' will change anyone's heart to save them from the deception they are trapped in/ deceived by.  Only Hope and Great Joy is in seeking GOD for His Freedom in Jesus , for everyone who wants to share in HIS LIFE.

ONLY GOD can give the increase .   one plants one waters,    BUT Even that is by the grace of GOD as well.       Only GOD can give the increase .

PRAISE the HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL .   Praise him all saints of his , praise the redeemer of our soul .     to the Lord be the glory , to the LORD be all the praise and recognition in all things.

Onward , jeff, onward in the Lord .  

[OneLight]

3 hours ago, frienduff thaylorde said:

Their is one religion far worse and more deceptive due to it claims to be of Christ .  Like judas they pretenders

they say money could be given to the poor, but really its the money in the bag they covet.  they covet world power

and now are so hungry they are doing all to create a one world religion.    I DIDNT SEE HER On that list .    ROMAN CATHOLIC.   

DO you believe all who attend the Roman Catholic Church follow the teachings of the church?  Is it possible, in your eyes, that there are some in the church that are true followers of Christ?

[frienduff thaylorde]

Just now, OneLight said:

DO you believe all who attend the Roman Catholic Church follow the teachings of the church?  Is it possible, in your eyes, that there are some in the church that are true followers of Christ?

YES .  but they will leave it the more they learn.   look at how many were once of it but in time have left it .

YES their are some right now that do believe and they will love that bible.  OH MAN they will love it and in time will learn and be led RIGHT OUT of her.

just like many have come out from under false prophets like rick warren .    and others .   yes,  their are some even as we speak.

But they will come out .   

[1to3]

On 2/2/2018 at 8:27 PM, Gary Lee said:

Go to UTUBE Type in:    "PBS Frontline 2014 Secrets of the Vatican"     A documentary that will make you ill.

A Warning of the last days...

Amos 8:11-12

¹¹ “Behold, the days are coming,” says the Lord God,
“That I will send a famine on the land,
Not a famine of bread,
Nor a thirst for water,
But of hearing the words of the Lord.
¹² They shall wander from sea to sea,
And from north to east;
They shall run to and fro, seeking the word of the Lord,
But shall not find it.

-------------------------------------------

 

God open our eyes in Christ Jesus Amen!

 

 

Thank you Gary Lee for your research. I did find and listen to the above documentary.

In turn, i found another three video documentaries that gives a good accurate history of the catholic church and its popes.

I hope that people will view these as well as its quite compelling to what the Catholic church is all about.

You can find the following headlines and documentaries on youtube.

 

Let's Talk About The Catholic Church: Its Satanic History Exposed

 

 

Vatican Secret Societies Jesuits and the New World Order

 

The Whore of Revelation 17 Identified: Bible Prophecy Fulfilled. Antichrist is Here!

 

 

It bring me much grief to have watched these videos, as I too was born into a Catholic family. Part of my family on my mothers side, had become bible believing Christians while, on  my fathers side, his sister, her children and my brother, they have become atheists.

I now stand alone with my christian faith .

My question is how do we transmit to the Catholic the Truth without upsetting them? or even try to reach the ex Catholic who has turned atheist because of their disgust for what the catholic church has done&

I know still some family friends that are Catholic. i would not know how to approach them other than what I have been doing since 2003 and that is just mention the Word of God found in the Holy Bible on occasions such as Christmas and Easter.

I know that if I presented more like even these videos from above, I will loose their friendship.

it becomes a very lonely existence standing alone in belief of God Word and His Word alone = Sola scriptura

 

Edited February 5, 2018 by 1to3

[brakelite]

11 hours ago, Davida said:

But when someone presented the post about rampant pedophilia and denial & a cover-up by the Vatican - Sorry Wayne but your response was - "there is  sin in every church" and I just think that is just a knee jerk attempt to down play this problem again and to try to paint all churches the same as the RCC that has a definite problem going on for decades (probably 100's of yrs) with Priests pretending celibacy while they are sexually molesting young boys and the Vatican & present Pope continues not to address it.

The comment about "hatred for Catholics or their church is intense here" ...Look it that is just false cry that tries to say we who criticize the RCC's doctrines & rituals and this issue have a problem with the RCC first and that is why we speak out about the issues that are within the RCC- that is flipping it around & putting the cart before the horse .  We didn't just wake up one day with a vendetta against the RCC and then go see if we could find if it had some dark history of some homosexual priests molesting boys - this to me is just one symptom anyway. The real problem happened when the RCC has gone so far away from Biblical Christian doctrine and elevated itself & creating a mystical mythology around the RCC, and presenting it to being the Holy spokesperson for the LORD God and higher then the Bible scripture.  

  Unfortunately some people who have been raised in the RCC have a misguided loyalty like the RCC is their "sacred  spiritual mother" and that shows a HUGE part of the problem right there. The RCC is NOT sacred and it is not holy and it is nobody's "Mother" spiritual or otherwise.  Only GOD is SACRED and HOLY and only the LORD GOD is our  FATHER. I think it is evidence of the brainwashing that has taken place, people in their psyches think they will go to hell if they speak against "her". 

As one brought up in the Catholic church I can testify first hand that you have it spot on. There was, for me, in the beginning an intense fear and nervousness in stepping away from or even contemplating the idea that Rome could possibly have it wrong...why? Because we were taught that ONLY IN ROME is there found salvation. ONLY IN ROME> That was the case 50 years ago...it was the case 1000 years ago...it is still the case today, although it may be hidden behind some very clever semantics.  Catholics are emotionally bound to Rome...even to investigate scripture by the aid of the Holy Spirit is forbidden, or at least considered ill advised on account of the claim that ONLY the elites of Rome, the Curia or the Magisterium, have the right to interpret scripture.

I believe that God allowed me some time in which to adjust before finally committing to the truth. After leaving high school I only once returned to the Catholic church to attend a meeting before I received Christ at age 24. I suspect I would have found it far more difficult to adopt any new faith or belief system if I had been faithfully attending the Catholic church and was committed to it.  After my conversion however I went back....twice. It was then I discovered that Christ was not in that church, for several reasons I need not go into here. Bt nevertheless, in my learning from the Bible subsequently, It was still very difficult to accept some of what I was learning, and a sense of fear that maybe I was getting things very very wrong and was bound for hell as a result. Not because I was accepting Biblical truth, but because I was rejecting "Roman 'truth'".  By the grace and mercy of God He lead me and taught me the way to go, which for all eternity I shall be grateful.

[1to3]

12 hours ago, 1to3 said:

A Warning of the last days...

Amos 8:11-12

¹¹ “Behold, the days are coming,” says the Lord God,
“That I will send a famine on the land,
Not a famine of bread,
Nor a thirst for water,
But of hearing the words of the Lord.
¹² They shall wander from sea to sea,
And from north to east;
They shall run to and fro, seeking the word of the Lord,
But shall not find it.

-------------------------------------------

 

God open our eyes in Christ Jesus Amen!

 

 

Thank you Gary Lee for your research. I did find and listen to the above documentary.

In turn, i found another three video documentaries that gives a good accurate history of the catholic church and its popes.

I hope that people will view these as well as its quite compelling to what the Catholic church is all about.

You can find the following headlines and documentaries on youtube.

 

Let's Talk About The Catholic Church: Its Satanic History Exposed

 

 

Vatican Secret Societies Jesuits and the New World Order

 

The Whore of Revelation 17 Identified: Bible Prophecy Fulfilled. Antichrist is Here!

 

 

 

 

 

 

It bring me much grief to have watched these videos, as I too was born into a Catholic family. Part of my family on my mothers side, had become bible believing Christians while, on  my fathers side, his sister, her children and my brother, they have become atheists.

I now stand alone with my  bible believing christian faith .

My question is how do we transmit to the Catholic the Truth without upsetting them? or even try to reach the ex Catholic who has turned atheist because of their disgust for what the catholic church has done&

I know still some family friends that are Catholic. i would not know how to approach them other than what I have been doing since 2003 and that is just mention the Words of God found in the Holy Bible on occasions such as Christmas and Easter.

I know that if I presented more like even these videos from above, I will loose their friendship.

it becomes a very lonely existence standing alone in belief of God Word and His Word alone = Sola scriptura

 

[inchrist]

18 hours ago, Davida said:

No comparison sorry. It is pedophilia, homosexual rape or sexual molestation of little boys and a massive cover up- this is not the sin in every church.

Really?

https://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0405/p01s01-ussc.html

The Catholics have gotten all the attention from the media, but this problem is even greater with the Protestant churches simply because of their far larger numbers," he says.

Of the 350,000 churches in the US, 19,500 5 percent are Roman Catholic

http://www.foxnews.com/story/2007/06/24/sexual-abuse-minors-in-protestant-churches.html

In light of the sex abuse scandal that rocked the Catholic Church beginning five years ago, religious and victims’ rights organizations have been seeking this type of data for years. It has been hard to come by since Protestant Churches are more de-centralized than the Catholic Church.

Responding to heavy media scrutiny, the Catholic Church has reported that since 1950, 13,000 “credible accusations” have been brought against Catholic clerics (about 228 per year.) The fact that this number includes all credible accusations, not just those that have involved insurance companies, and still is less than the number of cases in Protestant churches reported by just three insurance companies ,

Just 3 insurance companies who have filed legal law suits against protestant churches have the figures to be higher than Catholic sexual abuse law suits.

 

Billy Graham's grandson - a Liberty University law professor who investigates sexual abuse among Evangelicals: and founder of GRACE http://www.netgrace.org whos sole purpose is investigating sexual abuses within the churchs.

While comparing evangelicals to Catholics on abuse response, ”I think we are worse,” he said at the Religion Newswriters Association

Report: Protestant Church Insurers Handle 260 Sex Abuse Cases a Year

https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2007/06/18/80877.htm

The Methodist church in the UK reported 1,885 sexual abuse cases

https://www.google.co.za/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/may/29/protestants-abuse-catholics-methodist-church

It would appear my kids are less likely to be sexually abused going to a Catholic church than a protestant church.

[Sower]

2 hours ago, inchrist said:

It would appear my kids are less likely to be sexually abused going to a Catholic church than a protestant church.

So. Is this your belief?  One you would recommend to other parents? Or a supposition you have arrived at, based upon the articles you posted?

[inchrist]

11 hours ago, Gary Lee said:

So. Is this your belief?  One you would recommend to other parents? Or a supposition you have arrived at, based upon the articles you posted?

I would recommend parents their kids are less likely to be sexual abused in a transgender bathroom  than a church.

The point of posting sexual abuses from protestant churches; is to show this isn't just a Catholic phenomenon....the thread lacks balance. 

Edited February 6, 2018 by Steve_S
Removed link to a vile site.