Oy Vey?

[ScottA]

8 minutes ago, Steve_S said:

Perhaps it's just their way of voicing their disagreement? Is disagreement always spiteful?

That's why I mentioned the context - because, yes, on a thread highlighting the term...can there really be any double?

Anyway, they have made themselves know, and I have brought what they have done in the shadows to light.

[Steve_S]

Just now, ScottA said:

That's why I mentioned the context - because, yes, on a thread highlighting the term...can there really be any double?

Yes. There can absolutely be doubt. There is only One who can search hearts and minds.

Act 1:24  And they prayed and said, "You, O Lord, who know the hearts of all, show which of these two You have chosen

1Ch 28:9  "As for you, my son Solomon, know the God of your father, and serve Him with a loyal heart and with a willing mind; for the LORD searches all hearts and understands all the intent of the thoughts. If you seek Him, He will be found by you; but if you forsake Him, He will cast you off forever.

Judging intent on something as simple as a mouse click can be a slippery slope.

 

[ScottA]

9 minutes ago, Steve_S said:

Yes. There can absolutely be doubt. There is only One who can search hearts and minds.

Act 1:24  And they prayed and said, "You, O Lord, who know the hearts of all, show which of these two You have chosen

1Ch 28:9  "As for you, my son Solomon, know the God of your father, and serve Him with a loyal heart and with a willing mind; for the LORD searches all hearts and understands all the intent of the thoughts. If you seek Him, He will be found by you; but if you forsake Him, He will cast you off forever.

Judging intent on something as simple as a mouse click can be a slippery slope.

 

Look, whether it is innocent spite, a tease in fun, or devious...there are no other possible explanations. I gave the worse possible example to purposely exaggerate the point, only after seeing it abused, which I explained. It's a pre approved way of personally dis'ing person that is technically not a violation of terms. But you are right - God alone knows what is in their hearts. But now they have made what is in their hearts known.

Granted, I touch people's nerves in much of what I do here. And they touch back, in kind, and in the only way they can. And nobody is getting away with anything.

[Steve_S]

Just now, ScottA said:

Look, whether it is innocent spite, a tease in fun, or devious...there are no other possible explanations. I gave the worse possible example to purposely exaggerate the point, only after seeing it abused, which I explained. It's a pre approved way of personally dis'ing person that is technically not a violation of terms. But you are right - God alone knows what is in their hearts. But now they have made what is in their hearts known.

Granted, I touch people's nerves in much of what I do here. And they touch back, in kind, and in the only way they can. And nobody is getting away with anything.

I did just give you a reasonable and highly possible alternative, which is that they simply disagree with you and it is a way to express it without having to type anything or get into a debate.

It is not a preapproved way of dissing a person, either, it is simply a button you can click to express something other than approval or agreement in a fairly innocuous way. I believe the standard for one making "what is in their hearts known" should be a little bit higher of a bar than a mouse click of a fairly comical expression of "oy vey," but that is just me.

[frienduff thaylorde]

14 hours ago, ScottA said:

Just as I thought:

"Although this expression has come to mean to most people something along the lines of WOW this/this life/my life ----s (with the implication of weariness at that fact), the passage of scripture from which the expression is drawn has rich theological content both for Jews and Christians and echoes a much more severe statement than they likely intend.

This expression finds its origins in the book of Isaiah chapter 6 in what is commonly referred to as the calling of Isaiah. Isaiah, who has been a prophet of God, has his eyes opened to the throne room of God. Overawed by the majesty and holiness of God and repulsed by his own sin He has a nervous breakdown and pronounces an oracular curse on himself (essentially calling down God's just punishment on himself). Then he is cleansed of his sin by having a red hot coal pressed to his lips by an angel (who ever said that the Bible is boring?)

The King James version of the Bible renders it "Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, The LORD of hosts." As a prophet of God it was a part of Isaiah's job to pronounce God's blessings and curses on Israel, making them aware of how God felt on any given subject and what was going to happen good or bad as a result. Isaiah was in fact pronouncing God's punishment on himself for the sins of his lips. I like the expression "undone" because I feel it captures most dramatically what it feels like to experience the reality of one's own sinfulness in the presence of a perfect and perfectly holy God.

So when someone casually uses the expression "oy vey" they are actually echoing a self curse and laying claim on the Wrath of God."

-From: https://everything2.com/title/Oy+vey 

Now scott I said kindly that you scaring the people and not to be mean.

But you the one who came in speaking of some mighty revelation God told ya.

yet you hold back on answers to questions   .  now that cuases suspicion.

Just let it all flow out .    OH yeah its gonna be tested.   but why fear that.    ANYONE on this site can ask me any question they like.

I got nothing to hide .     As for oh vey, yeah I don't use it .    But if one speaks evil ,  expect an oh vey .    Not saying one way or the other

or accusing you of anything .    But its high time to just say what you believe .   

I can take a stab at it and guess .   My guess , I said GUESS,    is that you believe that GOD gave you special knowledge of something the

seven thunders uttered and you have some kind of knowledge that must be shared and some that must be withheld due to we aint ready .

AM I close .  or way off.  

[MorningGlory]

1 hour ago, ScottA said:

Well...at this time there are 4 who have chimed in with an "Oy Vey" on my OP. In this context, I should not think it is for any other reason than for spite. That is my point. It's not the many innocent possibilities - it's spite.

This is a Christian discussion board and George provided us a way to leave our opinion with emoticons.  It's what we do and everyone of us receives this kind of input.  It's not spiteful.  Good grief, lighten up a little and be glad anyone reads your posts.

[John Robinson]

What are these ... "posts," you speak of, MG? Nobody ever reads MINE.

[MorningGlory]

Just now, John Robinson said:

What are these ... "posts," you speak of, MG? Nobody ever reads MINE.

Not true, John.  I just did. 

[ScottA]

1 hour ago, Steve_S said:

I did just give you a reasonable and highly possible alternative, which is that they simply disagree with you and it is a way to express it without having to type anything or get into a debate.

It is not a preapproved way of dissing a person, either, it is simply a button you can click to express something other than approval or agreement in a fairly innocuous way. I believe the standard for one making "what is in their hearts known" should be a little bit higher of a bar than a mouse click of a fairly comical expression of "oy vey," but that is just me.

Yes, and I addressed that would-be innocent click, saying that works for any other thread, but not for a thread bring the intended use into question. That use can only be rebellion or spite. And since you have not dropped the innocent possibility, I would not be doing any of this if the use of the button was used at random. But what has caused me to make an issue of it, is that it, not always, but very often follows the daggers of disdain...again, leaving no question of the intent.

As for the "pre approved" comment...it is simply the button that is not only approved, but a cool feature if not used with disdain in one's heart towards the other party.

[Dennis1209]

I'm still scratching my head and searching for the "don't like" button on Facebook".