Just How Close is the RAPTURE?

[Daniel 11:36]

One is either a believer, or they are not

The Lord will immortalize all believers just before He brings His wrath and judgment upon an unbelieving world

The true believer knows this for a fact

Those who teach that they are believers like many on this forum who are not are all headed for the coming tribulation period unless they die before .... if they die before they will end up at the great white throne judgment along with all  of the rest and sent to the Lord's lake of fire

 

Edited June 1, 2018 by Daniel 11:36

[Diaste]

On 5/30/2018 at 11:52 AM, Last Daze said:

Understanding the things to come has merit, however, even if we can perfectly predict the coming storm, it means nothing if we've built our lives on the sand and are swept away by it.

Very true. In my mind the sand under the house is our own personal understanding leading to malpractice. The rock upon which the house is built is trust in the Lord's words and fruitful practice. 

Proverbs 3:5-6 

5 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

Matt 7

24“Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the rock. 26 But everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. 27 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell with a great crash.”

[Daniel 11:36]

What makes one a believer?

 

Nothing makes one a believer

This is something that one must decide for themselves 

[inchrist]

10 minutes ago, Daniel 11:36 said:

What makes one a believer?

 

Nothing makes one a believer

This is something that one must decide for themselves 

If one accepts pretrib you're a true believer is what your saying.

I'm really starting to see how cultish pretrib has turned put to be.

[Last Daze]

33 minutes ago, inchrist said:

I'm really starting to see how cultish pretrib has turned put to be.

It was rather eye-opening for me to hear a pretribber say that "tribulation saints" are believers who have the Holy Spirit indwelling just like you and me and then say that they are not a part of the body of Christ which is a clear contradiction of what the Bible teaches (one Spirit, one body).  It's quite a serious error to promote fantasy as truth.  I hadn't realized just how far darkness had encroached until I heard that.  Still shaking my head over that one.  Remain vigilant people and don't succumb to the "don't worry, you won't be here for that" false hope.  Separate from Babylon and set your affections above.

[Daniel 11:36]

 

If one accepts pretrib you're a true believer is what your saying

 

Correct .... all true believers accept the Lord's admonition 

[inchrist]

11 minutes ago, Last Daze said:

.  Remain vigilant people and don't succumb to the "don't worry, you won't be here for that" false hope.  Separate from Babylon and set your affections above.

Interesting you mentioned that

This was a response to you

The ones who are twisting it are the ones who hate the idea of a blessed hope and who try to assign false values to it to make it appear to be something that it is not.

Pretrib is the blessed hope, not only are we not true believers we hate the blessed hope also.

The very heart of a cult is a social group with socially deviant or novel beliefs and practices.

In this case religious deviants.

Our blessed hope is not the pretrib doctrine. 

Pretribs are not the only member of the body of CHRIST 

1 cor 12

If one part suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it.

²⁷ Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it.

 

 

 

[inchrist]

14 minutes ago, Daniel 11:36 said:

 

If one accepts pretrib you're a true believer is what your saying

 

Correct .... all true believers accept the Lord's admonition 

Sorry my blessed hope doesn't lie in a doctrine called pretrib

[Daniel 11:36]

"Sorry my blessed hope doesn't lie in a doctrine called pretrib"

 

Then you are in the wrong cast son .... your choice

[inchrist]

8 minutes ago, Daniel 11:36 said:

"Sorry my blessed hope doesn't lie in a doctrine called pretrib"

 

Then you are in the wrong cast son .... your choice

Pretrib is now the doctrine of salvation