Trump and the peace plan

[Scott Free]

Could Trump as the leader of the Moral Majority and instigator of a Middle East peace plan be seen as the false messiah to the Islamic word? Are we being led into a trap to bring about Islam's Madhi? Has Hollywood and New York really made the US an instrument of Satan in need of destruction? Are we so blinded with luxury and national pride that we have lost touch with how the world and heaven see us? 

[Last Daze]

16 minutes ago, Scott Free said:

Has Hollywood and New York really made the US an instrument of Satan in need of destruction? Are we so blinded with luxury and national pride that we have lost touch with how the world and heaven see us? 

• Because you say, “I am rich, and have become wealthy, and have need of nothing,” and you do not know that you are wretched and miserable and poor and blind and naked, I advise you to buy from Me gold refined by fire so that you may become rich, and white garments so that you may clothe yourself, and that the shame of your nakedness will not be revealed; and eye salve to anoint your eyes so that you may see.  Revelation 3:17-18

[HAZARD]

 Scripture proves beyond doubt that America will be one of the many countries which will escape the Antichrists rule (Dan.11:40-44).

Certain countries will make war on him at the very time he is supposed to be ruling the whole world (Dan. 11:40-44). Because he will reign only over ten countries inside the Roman Empire territory and because America is not inside that territory and never will be, and because certain countries will escape him we can scripturally conclude that he will never rule America or be a world-wide dictator. Therefore, multitudes of people of many nations will also never take the mark of the beast and they will never be killed by the Antichrist for not doing so. The Bible speaks of many peoples of many nations that are left after the reign of the Antichrist, people who will be alive in the Millennium and will go up yearly to worship God (Zech. 14:16-21).

The ten kingdoms are to be formed inside the old Roman Empire from the present states in that territory. It is clear that there will be at least another war in Europe, Asia, and Africa in order for this to be fulfilled. When the ten kingdoms are formed, then Daniel 7:23-24 will be fulfilled. These ten kingdoms will be the Revised Roman Empire which is symbolized by the ten toes on the great image of Dan. 2, the ten horns on the fourth beast of Dan. 7:7-8, 19-24, the ten horns on the dragon and the beast of Rev. 12, 13, and 17. This formation of the ten kingdoms will be necessary to fulfil both Dan. 7 and 8.

I suppose America will do what it has always done. She will support those she is aligned with at the time. Scripture also shows that the Arabs will protect Israel during the last three and one half years of this age. In Dan. 11:41 we read that Arabia or ancient Edom and Moab will escape the Antichrist. In Isa. 16:1-5; Ezek. 20:33-35; Matt. 24:15-21; Rev. 12:5-7 we read of Israel fleeing for protection into the wilderness of Edom and Moab, and since they escape the Antichrist and flee into this country for protection, then it is clear that the Arabs protect them during this time. The Bible names the very city in Edom and Moab that Israel will flee to for protection during the tribulation. It is Sela or Petra, the capital of Edom (Isa. 16:1-5; 26:20-21; 63:1-8).

[Scott Free]

17 minutes ago, HAZARD said:

Scripture proves beyond doubt that America will be one of the many countries which will escape the Antichrists

I am sure the US has enough luxury to outlast all consequences and our glory so great it will endure forever. We will never see morning or go into destruction, we have no need to be accountable to the world. Good luck with that.

Edited October 9, 2018 by Scott Free

[HAZARD]

Just now, Scott Free said:

I am sure the US has enough luxury to outlast all consequences and our glory so great it will endure forever. We will never see morning or go into sorrow, we have no need to be accountable to the world. Good luck with that.

We will all eventually be judged but that does not prove the Antichrist will have power over "ALL" the world. ALL the world as it was then known by most was the Old Roman Empire.So you checked all the Scriptures which proves America will not be under the influence of the Antichrist. The Antichrist will only have power and control over the countries within the revised old Roman empire. 

If you took the time to actually search the Scriptures, as I have done you will learn that there must be at least three more European wars before the battle of Armageddon and the second coming of Christ is shown in Daniel 7:23-24. Here we have a prophecy that ten kingdoms must be formed inside the Old Roman Empire territory in the last days. These ten kings referred to are the same ones as are symbolized by the ten horns on the beast of Rev. 13 and 17. In Rev. 17:12-17 it is stated that they will give their kingdoms to the future Antichrist, and then will fight against Jesus Christ at His second advent. This proves that they all must be in existence when Christ comes.

There are about twenty two states inside that territory now. Therefore, if these countries must be formed into ten kingdoms and be in existence when Christ comes, changes must be made sometime in the future that will affect these states. It will take one war to form these ten kingdoms before the Antichrist comes. This is the first war.

Then in Daniel 7:23-24 it states "after them," that is, after the ten kingdoms are formed, then the Antichrist will arise and subdue three of them. This is the second war. In Daniel 11:40-44; Rev. 17:12-17 it is revealed that the Antichrist will finally get power over the whole ten kingdoms. The third war will be fought between the ten kingdoms under the Antichrist and the nations that are north and east of the ten kingdoms. In other words, Russia, Germany, and other countries north and east of the ten kingdoms inside the old Roman Empire territory, will fight these ten kingdoms during the last three and one-half years of this age.

Antichrist will be the victor and he will then lead the nations against Jerusalem and the Jews, but Christ will come and defend the Jews and destroy the Antichrist as set up His Kingdom in the world forever (Zech. 14:1-21; Ezek. 38-39; Joel 3; Isa. 63; Rev. 17:14; 19:11-21; 20:1-10).

[HAZARD]

  For you scott free, 1 Cor. 14 38, But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant. 

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[Scott Free]

33 minutes ago, HAZARD said:

So you checked all the Scriptures

I am sorry there are so many contradictions to your interpretations I do not know how to sort it out. Love you brother, just saying you are going to be sorely disappointed very soon. Who is going to protect the Pacific rim from the Beast? The Ten are at peace with each other and give their kingdoms over willingly. No one will dispute their power over the earth.

Edited October 9, 2018 by Scott Free

[Scott Free]

13 minutes ago, HAZARD said:

let him be ignorant

Did you just call someone ignorant without at least hearing their case? You are right, intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself is the secret key to wisdom. 

Edited October 9, 2018 by Scott Free

[HAZARD]

17 minutes ago, Scott Free said:

I am sorry there are so many contradictions to your interpretations I do not know how to sort it out. Love you brother, just saying you are going to be sorely disappointed very soon. Who is going to protect the Pacific rim from the Beast? The Ten are at peace with each other and give their kingdoms over willingly. No one will dispute their power over the earth.

They are not my interpretations of my pet theories. They are Scriptures written in the Word of God regarding the Antichrist and the territory he will rule over. Christ commands us to search the scriptures. To get the gist of any doctrine we need to collect all the scriptures on it and believe what we read. The writers when declaring the Antichrist would rule all the world, they were writing about the world as they then knew it to be.

For example, the word "all" in Rev. 13, is simply part of a figure of speech called a "synecdoche" in which a part is used for a whole and a whole for a part. It is frequently used in Scripture as in these examples.

"I, even I do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy ALL flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and everything that is in the earth shall die" Gen. 6 : 17.

If we took this literally as men do in Rev. 13, we would have Noah and his family and all the animals in the ark dead, for they were also under heaven and in the earth and yet did not die.

Another example of many; "And the utterly destroyed ALL that was in the city, both men and women," referring to the people in Jericho when the wall fell, but the "all" here must be understood in a limited sense, for Rahab and her people were spared (Josh 6:21-25).

"David and "ALL" the house of Israel played before the Lord" and "brought up the ark" 2 Sam. 6:5, 15, yet not all Israel did this for many did not know how to play instruments and many were too young and still many were not even gathered at that one place.

It is spoken of Nebuchadnezzar that God made him ruler over ALL men, but ancient Babylon ruled only over part of the Earth (Dan. 2:37, 38; 4:1, 11, 12, 20). He never reigned over Greece, Rome, and many other lands at that time. In Dan. 2:39 Greece is spoken of as ruling "over ALL the Earth" but Greece never reigned over Italy, Spain, and many other countries at that time. In Dan. 7:23, Rome is spoken as ruling over the"WHOLE EARTH," but we all know that did not include many tribes and nations on the Earth, so "all" in these passages simply means all the people in part of the earth ruled by these kingdoms.

In Matt. 3:5, 6 we read, "Then went out to him Jerusalem, and ALL Judea, and ALL the region round the Jordan, and were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins," but we know that the Pharisees, the Sadducees, and many in all these parts were not baptized of John. Many women, children, the sick, and others of all classes never even saw John, much less were they baptized by him in Jordan It simply means a great many from these parts were baptized by John.

There are many other examples such as these few which I can give from the bible.

Edited October 9, 2018 by HAZARD

[ARGOSY]

On 9/26/2018 at 10:10 PM, Diaste said:

Yes.

They are saying the original location is some 200 yards south of the Mount in the city of David.

But I dont think the location matters. What matters is the belief of the Jews their messiah is an earthly king that will fight against the enemies of Israel. Can you imagine?! I have heard the religious Jews say this!

That coming Temple is a false idol built for a false God so as long as it stands prophecy is fulfilled.

The temple will be an abomination in God's eyes:  we are the temple during this age, there is no need for a temple

The temple will be an abomination in the eyes of liberals and gays: it will symbolically represents the religions they hate, Orthodox Jews and Evangelical Christians (yes for some reason us Christians are buying into this rebuilt temple, the apostles never had much respect for those rituals).

The temple will be an abomination to Islam, it will represent the triumph of the west and western religion in Jerusalem

The temple will be an abomination to vegans and animal lovers around the world, with tv visuals of mass animal slaughter broadcast to the world, and much anger and protest.

 

The abomination will be set up 1290 days before the end.  But the beast only arrives 1260 days/42 months before the end. This means the abomination will stand for 30 days, and then the antichrist will destroy the western armies and come to power, hero of western liberals and Muslims. He will be named "Jesus" or "Isa". 

He will be accepted as the new age of mankind, and Christians and Orthodox Jews will be shocked that the beloved temple is taken over by Islam after just 30 days. They will also be shocked that the unbeatable western armies are destroyed in one day. Orthodox Jews will flee the country to the wilderness to be kept safe. The church will go underground to survive 3.5 years.  Liberal Jews will stay on under their Jewish/Syrian "Messiah/Jesus" who will most likely have both Davidic bloodlines and Mohamed bloodlines. 

 

3.5 years later the world will secretly gang up against this deceptive "Isa" and invade Israel. This liberal Israel will repent, and Jesus will come on the clouds to protect Israel at the second coming. 

Edited October 17, 2018 by ARGOSY