other one Posted November 1, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 593 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 55,875 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 27,625 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 1, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Wayne222 said: You Can As A Christian Have A Bad Understanding Of Some things. But the elect will not be deceived. Is a Christian saved///// if so then he can't be snatched out of the Father's hand... understanding or not the Holy Spirit should not let you be deceived about the Beast or his/her mark. That would be snatching one out of the Father's hand. We should warn those who have not accepted Jesus I suppose, but if they are not in the book of life it will do no good for they will follow the beast/antichrist and love it. Edited November 1, 2018 by other one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne222 Posted November 1, 2018 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 32 Topic Count: 471 Topics Per Day: 0.17 Content Count: 6,543 Content Per Day: 2.30 Reputation: 7,619 Days Won: 9 Joined: 06/12/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted November 1, 2018 1 minute ago, other one said: Is a Christian saved///// if so then he can't be snatched out of the Father's hand... understanding or not the Holy Spirit should not let you be deceived about the Beast or his/her mark. That would be snatching one out of the Father's hand. We should warn those who have not accepted Jesus, but if they are not in the book of life it will do no good for they will follow the beast/antichrist and love it. You are right. Good answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1to3 Posted November 1, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 135 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,167 Content Per Day: 1.22 Reputation: 3,062 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/28/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted November 1, 2018 Matthew 24:24 The Abomination of Desolation …23At that time, if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There He is,’ do not believe it. 24For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders that would deceive even the elect if that were possible. 25See, I have told you in advance.… 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOONE7 Posted November 1, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 21 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 11,715 Content Per Day: 4.64 Reputation: 9,752 Days Won: 106 Joined: 04/29/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted November 1, 2018 Revelation 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: This verse says specifically right hand but Revelation 14:9 just states hand? Maybe the change from right hand to just hand in scripture shows there is no loop hole out of this. Even thinking to yourself I will pay with this mark on my left hand but it will not matter. Probably not a good idea to get this anywhere on the body or using your body to buy or sell. As some have already mentioned chip or bio-metrics or tattoo money for this. How many nations are using these types of payments? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discipler777 Posted November 1, 2018 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 606 Content Per Day: 0.31 Reputation: 102 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/25/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted November 1, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, Wayne222 said: Rev 14 it says 144000 will have the Father's name on there forehead. We when we were given the Holy Spirit became a child of God. So we have the Fathers name on us. Likewise those who bow to antichrist will have a mark on there forehead or hand. But it's not physical. So don't be deceived. . REVELATION.13:16-17 (NKJV) = 16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, 17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. . It will likely be a physical mark-of-the-beast and not like the spiritual mark-of-God/Jesus. Satan and God usually work in opposite ways. Satan and his lackeys in the world government will persecute/prosecute/martyr Christians who refuse to receive his mark that will be needed for buying and selling or to perform financial transactions. The worldly US financial system requires her citizens to have a photo ID and good credit rating before they can get bank loans and credit cards to buy and sell. This is how Satan's influence in the world works. How will the absence of a spiritual mark-of-the-beast stop the faithful Christians from buying and selling.? Edited November 1, 2018 by discipler777 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael37 Posted November 1, 2018 Group: Servant Followers: 21 Topic Count: 238 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 6,778 Content Per Day: 3.24 Reputation: 4,726 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/23/1954 Share Posted November 1, 2018 48 minutes ago, discipler777 said: . REVELATION.13:16-17 (NKJV) = 16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, 17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. . It will likely be a physical mark-of-the-beast and not like the spiritual mark-of-God/Jesus. Satan and God usually work in opposite ways. Satan and his lackeys in the world government will persecute/prosecute/martyr Christians who refuse to receive his mark that will be needed for buying and selling or to perform financial transactions. The worldly US financial system requires her citizens to have a photo ID and good credit rating before they can get bank loans and credit cards to buy and sell. This is how Satan's influence in the world works. How will the absence of a spiritual mark-of-the-beast stop the faithful Christians from buying and selling.? Worldwide Totalitarian Economic Control - For today's lecture we turn to the Book of Revelation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted November 1, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.40 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted November 1, 2018 10 hours ago, 1to3 said: Matthew 24:24 The Abomination of Desolation …23At that time, if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There He is,’ do not believe it. 24For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders that would deceive even the elect if that were possible. 25See, I have told you in advance.… Wanna hear something that should Completely snap the church out of its sleep . You know that big inclusive move that has been going on . That move to bring the faiths together as one as well as the religions of the world and humanity . One of the jews behind this movment said this , and right now UNDER the temple mount we have JESUS , ALLAH and MOSES dancing together for WORLD PEACE . and now a word or two words , IF THEY SAY BEHOLD HE IS IN THE SECRETE CHAMBER , HEED THEM NOT and JESUS wouldn't be dancing WITH ALLAH or any other false god of man . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted November 1, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.40 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted November 1, 2018 5 hours ago, discipler777 said: . REVELATION.13:16-17 (NKJV) = 16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, 17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. . It will likely be a physical mark-of-the-beast and not like the spiritual mark-of-God/Jesus. Satan and God usually work in opposite ways. Satan and his lackeys in the world government will persecute/prosecute/martyr Christians who refuse to receive his mark that will be needed for buying and selling or to perform financial transactions. The worldly US financial system requires her citizens to have a photo ID and good credit rating before they can get bank loans and credit cards to buy and sell. This is how Satan's influence in the world works. How will the absence of a spiritual mark-of-the-beast stop the faithful Christians from buying and selling.? The mark of GOD IS SPIRITUAL . but the number of the beast is not the number of a spirit , ITS THE NUMBER OF A MAN . sounds physical . Now by all means it is tied into the dark spiritual realm . But man is a physical being , GOD IS SPIRIT . And now another reminder . I bet you remember where it says He gives life unto the IMAGE of the beast , so that it can speak and cause those who did not worship THE IMAGE of the beast to be killed . REWIND to the days of OL NEBB. A physical image was set up and at the sound of the music all had to bow down or be cast alive into the FIERY FURNACE LOOKS like a big world wide episode will be repeated . Another note , in the days of nimrod the world with one mindset , one language came together to build a city TO REACH GOD . YES their own big tower to reach GOD . NOW FORWARD to today . the religions of the world as well as the world build an ALL INCLUSVIE MANY PATH TOWER to GOD and have omitted the dire necessity of JESUS as BEING the ONLY WAY . THEIR ONE UNIVERSAL SPIRITUAL LANGAUGE,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,INCLUSIVISM UNITY FOR WORLD PEACE . OH we much closer than folks either realize or want to realize . ONE WORLD one inclusive PC religion MINDSET for world peace . The world and many churches not only cant see it for what it is , they call it LOVE they call it gods will , and what do you suppose will happen when a man and kings stand and give them the FINAL SOLUTOIN to all the worlds ills, THEY GOING TO SEE them as men of LOVE , UNITY , TOLERANCE and under the largest ecumenical religious and pc move , WILL WORSHP THE BEAST and his kings . SEE where its leading and WHO its leading too . And more and more see it as LOVE , UNITY , healing the WOUND , OH YES , we got men calling it HEALING THE WOUND unity with ROME . I want you to ponder on that for a bit . HEALING THE WOUND and their cry is , FIRE FROM HEAVEN . YEP . DOES THAT SOUND FAMILIAR . IT SHOULD . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Daze Posted November 1, 2018 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,987 Content Per Day: 1.13 Reputation: 2,517 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/17/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted November 1, 2018 12 hours ago, other one said: Jesus said you can't be snatched out of the Father's hand, so it is not possible to be deceived. It seems that Jesus put the onus on us to keep from being misled. And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. Matthew 24:4-5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frienduff thaylorde Posted November 1, 2018 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.40 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted November 1, 2018 5 hours ago, NOONE7 said: Revelation 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: This verse says specifically right hand but Revelation 14:9 just states hand? Maybe the change from right hand to just hand in scripture shows there is no loop hole out of this. Even thinking to yourself I will pay with this mark on my left hand but it will not matter. Probably not a good idea to get this anywhere on the body or using your body to buy or sell. As some have already mentioned chip or bio-metrics or tattoo money for this. How many nations are using these types of payments? Because the right hand and forehead represents what ...................LOYALTY . its why I tell folks , IT DONT MATTER WHERE they want you to put it , DONT MARK GODS TEMPLE with the beast system technology . NOT ANYWHERE . TWO dire and wicked things AS ONE will occur . First let us all take a good long look at this world and its system . HOW LOVING TO GOD AND TRUTH IS IT . ITS DONE everything known to man to eradicate truth from govts , from work places , from the streets , and they want us to place its tech in GODS TEMPLE . You do notice I said GODS TEMPLE . BUT whose body is our body , when it aint even our own . ITS GODS . talk about an ultimate slap right at GOD . Not only are we tied into a wicked system THE object IS IN GODS TEMPLE . talk about a smack at GOD , a mock at GOD . THE ENTITY behind this , simple desires To be AS GOD and wants the worlds unity UNDER HIM . a hint , WHO , what entity does that SOUND LIKE TO YOU . a hint , he fell from heaven and has said in his heart , I SHALL BE AS GOD . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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