frienduff thaylorde Posted April 16, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 17 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 13,256 Content Per Day: 5.40 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 62 Joined: 07/07/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1972 Share Posted April 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, simplejeff said: This was as far as I got in this thread. No need to go further in the op/ it is a false teaching and is part of many many other false teachings. the statement, the premise, is false, and is contrary to all Scripture as revealed by Yahuweh through Yahushua. JEFF has sounded out the truth , very simple and very to the point . Thus it had to get said again . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted April 16, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 44 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.95 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Share Posted April 16, 2019 13 minutes ago, frienduff thaylorde said: A hands up praise to the LORD is called for . So let all raise those hands and praise the LORD . I just gotta love your enthusiasm brother. God bless! Shalom, David/BeauJangles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douge Posted April 16, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 354 Topics Per Day: 0.17 Content Count: 964 Content Per Day: 0.46 Reputation: 181 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/14/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 16, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, frienduff thaylorde said: What SHE said . As in Jayne . THAT is the gospel . Hello Ok I found Jayne and that is the gospel.......so now, where was that found? Was that found in Peter's gospel...can you show me this gospel in Peter? You can show me any related scripture please Edited April 16, 2019 by douge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douge Posted April 16, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 354 Topics Per Day: 0.17 Content Count: 964 Content Per Day: 0.46 Reputation: 181 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/14/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 16, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Jayne said: The gospel is this - Jesus died for our sins, was buried, and rose from the dead. And these things were foretold. I didn't make that up - God said that. 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 - "Now I would remind you, brothers, of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, in which you stand, and by which you are being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you — unless you believed in vain. For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures." There is only one gospel. Jesus, before he died, called it the gospel of the kingdom and people began to repent and to be in anticipation of the Messiah, some even knowing it was Jesus. After his death, it's called the gospel of God, the gospel, and the gospel of Jesus Christ. The "good news" is all the same news. There is only one gospel in the Bible. Hello What verse says the gospel of the kingdom is the same as the gospel in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 that Paul preached? Where does scripture say that after the death of Jesus the gospel of the kingdom is called the gospel of Christ? You can please give me any related scriptures. Look at this verse please: Luke 21:31 So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand. Here below is one of these things: Luke 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; You said Christ was preaching the gospel of the kingdom and people were anticipating the Messiah.....anticipating the signs in the sun etc. that would have to come to pass before the kingdom would come.................OR.............anticipating the Messiah to appear to fulfill prophecy..... if so wasn't he already on earth? If so these were not signs that would precede his earthly ministry. Edited April 16, 2019 by douge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firm Foundation Posted April 17, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 4 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,280 Content Per Day: 1.25 Reputation: 854 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted April 17, 2019 The idea that Peter and Paul preached a different doctrine is heresy. The Bible doesn't contradict itself. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn C Posted April 17, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 265 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,129 Content Per Day: 3.50 Reputation: 8,461 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Share Posted April 17, 2019 On 4/16/2019 at 7:06 AM, douge said: Peter and Paul ..... Hi douge, I do agree with much of what you said. I would however write it a bit differently as it comes across as two different gospels, good news, when in actual fact one is just an extension of the other, with two different inheritances. So the 12 disciples were told to preach that Jesus is both Lord and Christ, and that the people of Israel were to repent, be baptised and receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. `Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly that God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.` (Acts 2: 36) `Then Peter said to them, "Repent, and let every one of you be baptised in the name of Jesus for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit."` (Acts 2: 38) Then we know from other scriptures that Israel was promised the kingdom rule over the nations on the earth in the millennium. Paul also preached that Jesus is both Lord and Christ, and that people needed to repent, be baptised and receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Paul was later given revelation that Jesus was not only King over Israel, but was made HEAD of His Body. `And He (Father) put all things under His feet and gave Him to be HEAD over all things to the church, which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all.` (Eph. 1: 22 & 23) Jesus is revealed to be not only king on David`s throne but the very king of glory, heaven, the ages, the very highest rulership in all of God`s great kingdom. And it is there that the Body of Christ will rule and reign with Him in the ages to come. (Rev. 3: 21) The only difference between Peter and Paul is the inheritance of the different groups - Israel to earth, the Body of Christ to heaven. regards, Marilyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douge Posted April 17, 2019 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 354 Topics Per Day: 0.17 Content Count: 964 Content Per Day: 0.46 Reputation: 181 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/14/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Firm Foundation said: The idea that Peter and Paul preached a different doctrine is heresy. The Bible doesn't contradict itself. Hello Please, if you will, site a little scripture verses pertaining to the gospel from Paul and from Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firm Foundation Posted April 17, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 4 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,280 Content Per Day: 1.25 Reputation: 854 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted April 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, douge said: Hello Please, if you will, site a little scripture verses pertaining to the gospel from Paul and from Peter Every word in the New Testament is a portion of the gospel. It isn't piece meal. Even the Old Testament points to the plan of salvation. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn C Posted April 17, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 265 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,129 Content Per Day: 3.50 Reputation: 8,461 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Share Posted April 17, 2019 42 minutes ago, douge said: Hi douge, Have you read what I wrote? Marilyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heybro Posted April 17, 2019 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 19 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,360 Content Per Day: 0.67 Reputation: 2,139 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/03/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted April 17, 2019 On 4/16/2019 at 5:36 AM, douge said: Paul and works: Paul taught salvation without works (Titus 3:5 Romans 4:6 Ephesians 2:8-9) Douge, please read James 2 :17, 18. It then is a balanced statement with both working hand in hand as is all of what Paul taught, so that no-one was without excuse. Hope this helps you to have a broader understanding, pray, and ask The Holy Spirit to awaken you to more of Gods truth as you read The Word, God bless. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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