If God exist why do bad things happen?

[diane32]

53 minutes ago, turtletwo said:

@diane32 Dear sister, it takes courage to speak in the midst of your grief as you have. I am so sorry for your pain. Yet it blesses my heart that you choose to walk by faith, not sight. I commend you for not giving in to the negative (thoughts and feelings that I do understand.)

I am touched and inspired by the beautiful simplicity here. You rightly state that the blame belongs with sinful humans not our loving God. Sadly, the tragic things in this life can't be done away with as long as humans have free will. (God didn't want us to be robots.) The beauty of being able to choose brings with it the ugliness of some choosing evil. 

You reminded us that God showed His love in the most wonderful way by sending His only begotten Son to give us a way out of this madness. Our hope is in Him.

But yes, it is heartbreaking when our loved ones who are unsaved seem trapped in darkness. It helps me to take comfort in the thought that God wants them saved even more than we do. 1 Timothy 2:4 says, "Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth."

Hugs and prayers for you at this difficult time of loss. And thanks again for this honest post.

You truly are a blessing turtletwo. I am blessed to call you my sister in the Lord ? I can tell you have been through and came through a lot by the grace of God, and I can tell this because of your understanding, compassionate heart for others. It's not easy to be so understanding but it comes naturally to you because of your own experiences in life and what God has done in you and for you...thank you so so much ???

[diane32]

2 hours ago, Sonshine☀️ said:

Diane, I’ll probably not win many friends with what I’m about to say but I don’t believe those sinners who never repented (even after the Millennium) will be tormented in hell forever.  Our Father is a merciful God.  Do you really believe He would do that?  No, those who don’t make it will be blotted out—cease to exist, as if they never existed.  ….and not even a memory of them will exist.  Be encouraged. 

Psalm 69:27-28 New King James Version (NKJV)

27 Add iniquity to their iniquity,
And let them not come into Your righteousness.
28 Let them be blotted out of the book of the living,
And not be written with the righteous.

Revelation 3:5 New King James Version (NKJV)

5 He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.

 

 

I would love to think hell isn't for eternity but I truly believe it is...but I appreciate your encouragement Sonshine ☺ thank you sis ?

[diane32]

17 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

Consider the lyrics to this song.

 

                                                                                                                  "Blessings"

                                                                                                                 Laura Story
 

We pray for blessings, we pray for peace
Comfort for family, protection while we sleep
We pray for healing, for prosperity
We pray for Your mighty hand to ease our suffering
And all the while, You hear each spoken need
Yet love us way too much to give us lesser things

'Cause what if Your blessings come through rain drops
What if Your healing comes through tears
What if a thousand sleepless nights are what it takes to know You're near
What if trials of this life are Your mercies in disguise

We pray for wisdom, Your voice to hear
We cry in anger when we cannot feel You near
We doubt your goodness, we doubt your love
As if every promise from Your word is not enough
And all the while, You hear each desperate plea
And long that we'd have faith to believe

'Cause what if Your blessings come through rain drops
What if Your healing comes through tears
What if a thousand sleepless nights are what it takes to know You're near
What if trials of this life are Your mercies in disguise

When friends betray us
When darkness seems to win
We know that pain reminds this heart
That this is not
This is not our home
It's not our home

'Cause what if Your blessings come through rain drops
What if Your healing comes through tears
What if a thousand sleepless nights are what it takes to know You're near

What if my greatest disappointments or the aching of this life
Is the revealing of a greater thirst this world can't satisfy
What if trials of this life
The rain, the storms, the hardest nights
Are Your mercies in disguise

You have no idea how much I needed to see these words tonight thank you ?

[turtletwo]

9 minutes ago, diane32 said:

I am blessed to call you my sister in the Lord

@diane32 I feel the same way about you. What you wrote to me was most encouraging. The Lord is good. I love how He brings us together to edify one another.

 

[diane32]

1 hour ago, missmuffet said:

Consider the lyrics to this song.

 

                                                                                                                  "Blessings"

                                                                                                                 Laura Story
 

We pray for blessings, we pray for peace
Comfort for family, protection while we sleep
We pray for healing, for prosperity
We pray for Your mighty hand to ease our suffering
And all the while, You hear each spoken need
Yet love us way too much to give us lesser things

'Cause what if Your blessings come through rain drops
What if Your healing comes through tears
What if a thousand sleepless nights are what it takes to know You're near
What if trials of this life are Your mercies in disguise

We pray for wisdom, Your voice to hear
We cry in anger when we cannot feel You near
We doubt your goodness, we doubt your love
As if every promise from Your word is not enough
And all the while, You hear each desperate plea
And long that we'd have faith to believe

'Cause what if Your blessings come through rain drops
What if Your healing comes through tears
What if a thousand sleepless nights are what it takes to know You're near
What if trials of this life are Your mercies in disguise

When friends betray us
When darkness seems to win
We know that pain reminds this heart
That this is not
This is not our home
It's not our home

'Cause what if Your blessings come through rain drops
What if Your healing comes through tears
What if a thousand sleepless nights are what it takes to know You're near

What if my greatest disappointments or the aching of this life
Is the revealing of a greater thirst this world can't satisfy
What if trials of this life
The rain, the storms, the hardest nights
Are Your mercies in disguise

You have no idea how much I needed to see these words tonight thank you ? sorry I shared this twice by accident and couldn't delete the second one so just typed this at the end ? lol

Edited May 28, 2019 by diane32

[diane32]

53 minutes ago, turtletwo said:

@diane32 I feel the same way about you. What you wrote to me was most encouraging. The Lord is good. I love how He brings us together to edify one another.

 

Amen!?

[Blood Bought 1953]

3 hours ago, Firm Foundation said:

I believe it is necessary that good and evil remain to complete God's plan in the Bible and then evil will be destroyed.  I can't think of anything else that fits.  Only God knows for sure.

 

There is a negative part to God’s Plan and God uses Satan to fulfill it......When God gets done using him , he will be thrown into the Lake of Fire to be tormented forever..

[OneLight]

23 minutes ago, Blood Bought 1953 said:

There is a negative part to God’s Plan and God uses Satan to fulfill it......When God gets done using him , he will be thrown into the Lake of Fire to be tormented forever..

I've never liked, or agreed with such a theory.  I do believe that God gave the same freedom of choice to the angels He created, just like He did man, while, at the same time, able to know the end from the beginning.  There is no negative part of God period.  Choices were made and God was able to use the bad choices to create good choices and outcomes.

[Blood Bought 1953]

18 minutes ago, OneLight said:

I've never liked, or agreed with such a theory.  I do believe that God gave the same freedom of choice to the angels He created, just like He did man, while, at the same time, able to know the end from the beginning.  There is no negative part of God period.  Choices were made and God was able to use the bad choices to create good choices and outcomes.

 

You may be right.....I don’t really know....it was just a theory of mine.....

[Willa]

Why do bad things happen?   All things were created good.  Then satan became proud and rebelled, desiring to overthrow God.  That was a joke--we have an all powerful God.  However, he did succeed in taking 1/3 of the angels with him and they were cast out of heaven.  Here on earth satan did succeed in deceiving Eve and spreading his rebellion against God to mankind.  That placed mankind in his domain.  We are now captive to satan and sin and all mankind is predisposed to sinning.  The only way out is to receive Jesus as the Messiah sent to rescue mankind by becoming one of us to die for the sin of the world, thus becoming the propitiation, the appeasing sacrifice for our sin.  He made it possible for us to be reconciled to God by His own blood.  He took our evil upon Himself and in return gave us His righteousness.  We can only receive this by faith as God enlightens us.   

So all mankind is heading for hell under satan's rule unless they accept God's way out, by the shed blood of Jesus Christ for our sin.  He alone can rescue us.  Meanwhile the rest of mankind goes on in rebellion and sin, hating and spreading chaos.  Even nature is corrupted by our negligence and selfishness.   Wickedness is the way of the world, and that is why bad things happen.  God did do something about it, by the way. He sent Jesus to rescue whomever will come to Him.