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On 7/3/2019 at 1:35 AM, Michael37 said:

nobody gets away with capitalising the word "antichrist" on my watch.

We humbly beseech your forgiveness, your lordship.

(And thanks for the typo correction.)

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On 6/22/2019 at 7:21 PM, Jonathan Dane said:

(an excerpt from my book, Rise of the Little Horn)
 

A man with no military or political experience announces his run for the most powerful seat in the world. His promise? GREATNESS. He controls the flow of money, and is head over a military that is unmatched in the world. He is consumed with winning politically and fortifying his strongholds. Though initially thought of as a minor threat by his associates, he truly towers over them. He demolishes them by means of abusive and slanderous speech, tears down the character of those who oppose him and flatters and elevates those who admire him. He rises up as if by sheer will. He is an alpha male who plots and manipulates anything and everything to take down his opponents. He is seemingly unstoppable. To the utter amazement of the world, he succeeds at nearly everything he does, despite his lack of deep personal conviction on any issue except self-aggrandizement. His narcissistic pride is evident to all as he continually boasts, exaggerating his achievements and financial worth. He is characteristically disingenuous, so deftly twisting the truth that deceit becomes the norm rather than the exception.

An aura emanates from him that seems to delude people’s thinking; making thoseseemingly intelligentunable to discern truth from falsehood. At some point, these deluded masses begin to view good things as evil and evil things as good. He is untamable, doing whatever he pleases. These characteristics cause other world leaders to fear him. He shows little regard for the support of women, yet boasts of his various adulterous relationships. Despite his inflated claims, he does possess considerable wealth, which he unabashedly flaunts; wealth accumulated through real estate holdings and building projects. Hailed as the consummate praised man of the city, he is a builder of great high towers, bedecked with precious stones and gold. He is obsessed with his name and plasters it on everything he touches.

He is cunning and shrewd; playing his enemies like a game of cards. He is vicious in his desire to win. The concepts of grace and forgiveness find no place in him. Violence follows him wherever he goes; even to the killing of innocents who stand between him and his goals. His false show of religion gains the trust of people of faithdeluding them. He comes to power through the “simple folk” who have been discarded as insignificant. His supporters are unwavering in their commitment, for they worship the ground he walks on. His rise to power coincides with a political uprising and defection. Many will leave their former political affiliations.

His ascension comes at a time of worldwide financial, social, religious, military and civil upheaval. But he will promise to restore law and order, and to soon put an end to crime and violence; a few of many extravagant promises he will never keep. He will establish an extreme vetting process to prevent illegals from gaining access. He will seek the wealth of Iraq as Russia shows signs of escalating military aggression towards the Middle East. Known for his ability to make deals, he promises to make a peace deal between Israel and her surrounding enemies. He plans a restructure of the balance of power in Europe in order to fight terror. The earth will be in global flux.

Who do these paragraphs describe? This portrait was penned thousands of years ago. It is a biblical word picture of the most evil, ruthless killer of all time; a tyrant who will draw the world into the last great mega-battle known as Armageddon. The Bible refers to this man as the Son of Perdition, the Man of Sin, the Wicked One, the Worthless Shepherd, the Beast, the LIE, the Adversary, the Spoiler, the Willful King, the Lawless One, the Desolator, and more. This man’s wickedness grows until, eventually, Satan himself will possess him. He is known to most as the Antichrist. 

(Copyright 2016 - Jonathan Dane - All Rights Reserved)

I think you missed the one about him being fatter than those around him.

Daniel 7:20  And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.

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On 6/22/2019 at 7:21 PM, Jonathan Dane said:

(an excerpt from my book, Rise of the Little Horn)
 

A man with no military or political experience announces his run for the most powerful seat in the world. His promise? GREATNESS. He controls the flow of money, and is head over a military that is unmatched in the world. He is consumed with winning politically and fortifying his strongholds. Though initially thought of as a minor threat by his associates, he truly towers over them. He demolishes them by means of abusive and slanderous speech, tears down the character of those who oppose him and flatters and elevates those who admire him. He rises up as if by sheer will. He is an alpha male who plots and manipulates anything and everything to take down his opponents. He is seemingly unstoppable. To the utter amazement of the world, he succeeds at nearly everything he does, despite his lack of deep personal conviction on any issue except self-aggrandizement. His narcissistic pride is evident to all as he continually boasts, exaggerating his achievements and financial worth. He is characteristically disingenuous, so deftly twisting the truth that deceit becomes the norm rather than the exception.

An aura emanates from him that seems to delude people’s thinking; making thoseseemingly intelligentunable to discern truth from falsehood. At some point, these deluded masses begin to view good things as evil and evil things as good. He is untamable, doing whatever he pleases. These characteristics cause other world leaders to fear him. He shows little regard for the support of women, yet boasts of his various adulterous relationships. Despite his inflated claims, he does possess considerable wealth, which he unabashedly flaunts; wealth accumulated through real estate holdings and building projects. Hailed as the consummate praised man of the city, he is a builder of great high towers, bedecked with precious stones and gold. He is obsessed with his name and plasters it on everything he touches.

He is cunning and shrewd; playing his enemies like a game of cards. He is vicious in his desire to win. The concepts of grace and forgiveness find no place in him. Violence follows him wherever he goes; even to the killing of innocents who stand between him and his goals. His false show of religion gains the trust of people of faithdeluding them. He comes to power through the “simple folk” who have been discarded as insignificant. His supporters are unwavering in their commitment, for they worship the ground he walks on. His rise to power coincides with a political uprising and defection. Many will leave their former political affiliations.

His ascension comes at a time of worldwide financial, social, religious, military and civil upheaval. But he will promise to restore law and order, and to soon put an end to crime and violence; a few of many extravagant promises he will never keep. He will establish an extreme vetting process to prevent illegals from gaining access. He will seek the wealth of Iraq as Russia shows signs of escalating military aggression towards the Middle East. Known for his ability to make deals, he promises to make a peace deal between Israel and her surrounding enemies. He plans a restructure of the balance of power in Europe in order to fight terror. The earth will be in global flux.

Who do these paragraphs describe? This portrait was penned thousands of years ago. It is a biblical word picture of the most evil, ruthless killer of all time; a tyrant who will draw the world into the last great mega-battle known as Armageddon. The Bible refers to this man as the Son of Perdition, the Man of Sin, the Wicked One, the Worthless Shepherd, the Beast, the LIE, the Adversary, the Spoiler, the Willful King, the Lawless One, the Desolator, and more. This man’s wickedness grows until, eventually, Satan himself will possess him. He is known to most as the Antichrist. 

(Copyright 2016 - Jonathan Dane - All Rights Reserved)

FUNNY Thing is, I just went through a whole lotta people that did this same thing with BHO being the antichrist. They have long lists of proofs for this and all manner of conspiracies to back this up such as "Michelle is really Michael", and his SS name is Renegade which means "lawless one" in some dictionary some where on the internet. Now That he lost is power, they are scrambling. Calling this the mortal wound... 

So a Question for you, How is it that a non-Jew will be seen as the Messiah of Israel for them to receive, assuming you are not implying anyone by your article from your book? Would this not negate this person you are not pointing to as being the antichrist? (Not that you are pointing to anyone in particular) Perhaps it is pointing to his Prince by marriage who also builds things, who is a Jew, and could be called the son of perdition... Not that I am pointing to anyone? I Mean if someone goes to Perdition, and has a son... then he is the son of perdition, is he not?

If anything the one that you are NOT pointing to is a JEHU, destroying the JEZEBEL, and as an Alpha male He is doing the WILL of God in DESTROYING the JEZEBEL spirit that has run this country to the ground... not that you are pointing to this country, so to speak... Unfortunately we have become so feminized in this country that we view an alpha male as a threat worth labeling as the antichrist... Well, Jesus was an ALPHA MALE, and he is AN OMEGA MALE as well... Of course I am not pointing at any one just what the Scripture says here... Just sayin' :) 

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On 7/28/2019 at 11:26 AM, luigi said:

I think you missed the one about him being fatter than those around him.

Daniel 7:20  And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.

During a recent telephone conversation, a relative of mine listed four people he considered likely candidates for the Antichrist, Trump being one of them. “Well,” I said, “this verse says the Antichrist is ‘larger in appearance than his associates,’ which leaves only one from your listDonald Trump.” In point of fact, many historical figures such as Hitler and Napoleon, while types of the Antichrist, are disqualified from the office by this singular verse. Put Donald Trump in a room with others and he invariably towers over nearly everyone. At six feet three inches, with striking blond hair, rotund frame and that orange-red face, he stands out as Caesar among Rome’s puppet senators. (Rise of the Little Horn p. 103)

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On 7/28/2019 at 12:39 PM, dhchristian said:

FUNNY Thing is, I just went through a whole lotta people that did this same thing with BHO being the antichrist. They have long lists of proofs for this and all manner of conspiracies to back this up such as "Michelle is really Michael", and his SS name is Renegade which means "lawless one" in some dictionary some where on the internet. Now That he lost is power, they are scrambling. Calling this the mortal wound... 

 

Upon telling a friend of my book back in 2016, before the election, a friend of mine reacted, "Not another boy-who-cried-wolf book!!'" 
My response: "Funny thing about the boy, eventually he saw the wolf and went back to warn everyone. Nobody believed him."

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On 7/28/2019 at 12:39 PM, dhchristian said:

So a Question for you, How is it that a non-Jew will be seen as the Messiah of Israel for them to receive, ... Would this not negate this person you are not pointing to as being the antichrist? 

Who was "King of the Jews" in Jesus' day? King Herod, an Edomite.
What was the reply of the Jews when Pilate said, "Shall I crucify your king?" "We have no king but Caesar."

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2 hours ago, Jonathan Dane said:

Who was "King of the Jews" in Jesus' day? King Herod, an Edomite.
What was the reply of the Jews when Pilate said, "Shall I crucify your king?" "We have no king but Caesar."

Jonathan,

Think roles.   Antichrist = King (unapproved) of Israel.    little horn, beast = King of the Roman Empire, end times, the EU

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In John 12:12-15, Jesus riding in to Jerusalem - "Blessed is the King of the Israel who comes in the name of the Lord".

In Mark 15:32    "Christ the King of Israel".

"Anti" (instead of and against) "Christ" (the rightful King of Israel, who came in the name of the Lord - Jesus).

The person has to be anointed as the King of Israel, but not approved to be the King of Israel by God.  

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The little horn, same person, but in a different role - King of the Roman Empire end times - descended from the Julio-Claudian Caesar family - selected leader of the EU

The prince who shall come,  transition role, to be anointed the King of Israel, for a while = the Antichrist role.

Revealed man sin, a transition role to become the beast.   = Antichrist role over, impeached as the King of Israel

The beast, same person, but in a different and last role, King of the Roman Empire end times, no longer the Antichrist;  ten kings hand the EU over to him to be dictator.

Jesus returns, ends beast's 42 months reign, of Revelation 13:5.   

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You are doing the same, for example, of calling sitting President Obama - as Senator Obama.

President role is not Senator role.

little horn, beast roles are not Antichrist role.

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It's not Trump.   Wrong religion, wrong ethnicity, wrong kingdom.

right = Judaism, Jew, EU, Israel for a while, EU

 

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4 hours ago, Jonathan Dane said:

Upon telling a friend of my book back in 2016, before the election, a friend of mine reacted, "Not another boy-who cried-wolf book!!'" 
My response: "Funny thing about the boy, eventually he saw the wolf and went back to warn everyone. Nobody believed him."

Funny thing is how you managed to ignore the whole point of my comment to you....

"Unfortunately we have become so feminized in this country that we view an alpha male as a threat worth labeling as the antichrist... Well, Jesus was an ALPHA MALE, and he is AN OMEGA MALE as well..."

Lucifer is always depicted as androgynous. 

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5 hours ago, Jonathan Dane said:

During a recent telephone conversation, a relative of mine listed four people he considered likely candidates for the Antichrist, Trump being one of them. “Well,” I said, “this verse says the Antichrist is ‘larger in appearance than his associates,’ which leaves only one from your listDonald Trump.” In point of fact, many historical figures such as Hitler and Napoleon, while types of the Antichrist, are disqualified from the office by this singular verse. Put Donald Trump in a room with others and he invariably towers over nearly everyone. At six feet three inches, with striking blond hair, rotund frame and that orange-red face, he stands out as Caesar among Rome’s puppet senators. (Rise of the Little Horn p. 103)

OK, so you didn't miss it in your book. So now let's take it out of the simple obvious criteria, and go into something a little more advanced.

How about him, representing the little horn which rises from one of the he goats four horns seceded from its prominent horn in Daniel 8:9; do you agree, or disagree?

Daniel 8:9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.

 

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On 8/4/2019 at 1:00 AM, douggg said:

Jonathan,

Think roles.   Antichrist = King (unapproved) of Israel.    little horn, beast = King of the Roman Empire, end times, the EU

_________________________________________________________________________________

In John 12:12-15, Jesus riding in to Jerusalem - "Blessed is the King of the Israel who comes in the name of the Lord".

In Mark 15:32    "Christ the King of Israel".

"Anti" (instead of and against) "Christ" (the rightful King of Israel, who came in the name of the Lord - Jesus).

The person has to be anointed as the King of Israel, but not approved to be the King of Israel by God.  

_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________

The little horn, same person, but in a different role - King of the Roman Empire end times - descended from the Julio-Claudian Caesar family - selected leader of the EU

The prince who shall come,  transition role, to be anointed the King of Israel, for a while = the Antichrist role.

Revealed man sin, a transition role to become the beast.   = Antichrist role over, impeached as the King of Israel

The beast, same person, but in a different and last role, King of the Roman Empire end times, no longer the Antichrist;  ten kings hand the EU over to him to be dictator.

Jesus returns, ends beast's 42 months reign, of Revelation 13:5.   

_________________________________________________________________________________________________

You are doing the same, for example, of calling sitting President Obama - as Senator Obama.

President role is not Senator role.

little horn, beast roles are not Antichrist role.

___________________________________________________________________________________________________

It's not Trump.   Wrong religion, wrong ethnicity, wrong kingdom.

right = Judaism, Jew, EU, Israel for a while, EU

 

You're proving my point. Who was the "unapproved" king of Israel during the time of Christ? KING HEROD. What was his ethnicity? Was he Jewish? No. He was an Edomite.

Where in fact does it say that the Antichrist must be "anointed as Israel's king?" Chapter and verse? Jesus was and is certainly anointed King of Israel by God but was never done so by Israel. "
So the chief priests of the Jews said to Pilate, “Do not write, ‘The King of the Jews,’ but rather, ‘This man said, I am King of the Jews.’” (John 19:21) 

The people who shouted Hosanna were the same ones who shouted "Crucify Him" within a 4-day span. They later said, "WE HAVE NO KING BUT CAESAR!!" (By the way, Caesar was a Gentile.)


FACT: There is absolutely NOTHING that in Scripture that demands that the Antichrist be a Jew. In fact, nearly ALL types of antichrists in Scripture were indeed Gentiles, not Jews -- King Herod, Antiochus Epiphanes, Nimrod, Nebuchadnezzar, King of Tyre, etc. The same is true of antichrist types since the time of Christ: Nero, Napoleon, Hitler, etc.
  
I don't doubt that the Antichrist will serve in different capacities (roles). But to map it out as you have, right down to the particular transitions etc. suggests more eisegesis than exegesis. The Bible nowhere is so explicit regarding the order and timeline of one role to the next. Sorry.

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