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Will pregnancy and toddlers/children vanish when Rapture happens ?

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10 minutes ago, iamlamad said:

You are simply mistaken.  God and John start His wrath at the 6th seal, before the book is even open.  "The tribulation" or the 70th week does not begin until the 7th seal with the 30 minutes of silence, then the trumpet judgments, which are written INSIDE the book.

The great crowd, too large to number, seen in heaven in Rev. 7 is the just raptured church. caught up before His wrath begins, and most certainly before any of the 70th week begins. Just so you know, God "marked" the 70th week with 7's. 

The truth of God's word is, God's wrath starts before the 70th week and continues on through the entire week.

I must add: unless you gain FAITH in a pretrib rapture, you will not be qualified and will be left behind.

Again, soon. I think very soon.

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On 10/19/2019 at 12:27 AM, iamlamad said:

You are simply mistaken.  God and John start His wrath at the 6th seal, before the book is even open.  "The tribulation" or the 70th week does not begin until the 7th seal with the 30 minutes of silence, then the trumpet judgments, which are written INSIDE the book.

 

The tribulation started when antichrist is allowed to conquer the world with PEACE by the opening of the 1st Seal thats why Paul wrote "Peace and Safety" and then after a short time the 2nd seal is opened and that PEACE is removed from mankind

1 Thes 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

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20 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

The tribulation started when antichrist is allowed to conquer the world with PEACE by the opening of the 1st Seal thats why Paul wrote "Peace and Safety" and then after a short time the 2nd seal is opened and that PEACE is removed from mankind

1 Thes 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

It is true Paul wrote "peace and safety," about the time of his pretrib rapture.

It is also true that the 7 years starts when someone confirms some kind of covenent.  But Jesus will open the 7th seal to mark that time in heaven. The 7th seal STARTS the 70th week. Don't doubt me on this.

The first seal was opened as soon as Jesus ascended and got the book from the Father's right hand. Don't take my word for it, go back and study chapters 4 & 5 that set the TIMING for the first seal. It is to represent the CHURCH taking the GOSPEL to the world.

Seals 2-4 are to represent the devil's attempts to stop the gospel, hold it within the 1/4 of the earth God assigned as their theater of operation.

Seal 5 is for the martyrs of the church age.

Seal 6 starts the Day of the Lord. The church has been at the 5th seal for almost 2000 years now.

In 1 thes 5, Paul is telling us that wrath will follow the rapture.

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On 10/15/2019 at 1:37 PM, missmuffet said:

The Bible does not specifically say what will happen to children in the rapture. All children under the age of accountability will go to heaven. With this in mind I believe all babies and children and even unborn children in the womb will go in the rapture. 

 

On 10/16/2019 at 3:53 AM, Tampered With said:

Well Said! I agree.

 

2 hours ago, dailyprayerwarrior said:

Yes, I'd agree that if a child has not reached the age of accountability they will go to Heaven in the Rapture. 

Luke 23:29 Look, the days are coming when people will say, ‘Blessed are the barren women, the wombs that never bore, and breasts that never nursed.

So whats wrong with wombs that bore and breast that nurse, during that day ?

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1 hour ago, R. Hartono said:

 

 

Luke 23:29 Look, the days are coming when people will say, ‘Blessed are the barren women, the wombs that never bore, and breasts that never nursed.

So whats wrong with wombs that bore and breast that nurse, during that day ?

I believe this a second coming verse. They would not want their children to go through the horrors of the seven year tribulation. Look at what happened to the Jewish children in ww2. 

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9 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

As one of my Bible teachers would ask, what event is this scripture referring to? Is it the Rapture or something else? ;)

 

Luke 23:29 Look, the days are coming when people will say, ‘Blessed are the barren women, the wombs that never bore, and breasts that never nursed.

So whats wrong with wombs that bore and breast that nurse, during that day ?

 

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Just imagine trying to survive the extremity of cataclysmic events upon the judgement of this earth if being other than a well trained survivalist living on a minimal existence. Few will have enough canned and dried food plus sufficient water supplies to last it though. Safe hiding places that can withstand global devastation do not presently exist. And people can be easily traced merely by having a computer or smart phone. Even soldiers of fortune will not find a fortunate situation. Sorry. Be not dismayed, however. We're not going to have to worry about all this. Good News!

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On 10/15/2019 at 7:23 AM, R. Hartono said:

They may say so but does God really care for the babies and children of unGodly parents ?

God cares deeply about ALL humans. To ask a question like that is unsettling for people. OF COURSE HE CARES. He died for them!!

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It is interesting to see how the opposition (those that are deceived by Satan) view what happens to little children when a great "disappearance" will occur when rescue ships come close to the earth to beam out those who are to be protected in the "mother ships" that will circle the earth while the earth undergoes a purging of the bad vibrations and ushers in a new order.   Many in the UFO / Channelling / Occult sector have written extensively on this.  Follow the quotes that this guy presents from their own writings and he shows where they talk about the children being unaccoutable and will are removed for their protection.  Satan's way to explain a mass disappearance of people that will occur.

Notice in the context of what is quoted from these occultists by a Christian doctor, they waste no time writing about events that would pertain to a post trib scenario.  Satan, it would seem from these writings, is in some sort of pre-trib type or at most a mid trib sort of camp.  I don't know, I just show this as an interesting side note to the discussion showing how the enemy perceives what is coming.  Satan knows scripture as much as anyone and he is non denominational.   He is going to try to explain a lot of stuff away in his attempt to deceive the world during the final climatic period of the tribulation and wrath.

 

 

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