Lockdown the church of God NEVER

[Blood Bought 1953]

5 hours ago, vic66 said:

Of cause I know what is going on !

But without faith it is impossible to please God

God told Noah to build a boat on a mount not near the sea. To men this would seem crazy and foolish but God instructed him build.

God told the Gideon That the men with him were still to many and he whittled the men down to three hundred from many thousands lest Israel boost themselves against him claiming it was by there own strength they gain the  victory against the large host of midianites. Three hundred men would seem suicidal to any top United States general or military commander in any armed unit.(But not with God)

God used a small shepherd boy called David to defeat champion warrior. A man of war from his youth Goliath. The situation was so unusual that even David'S older brothers who were in Saul army  thought he was  up to mischief. Goliath thought the Israelite weren't serious. yet with one smooth stone and the anointing of the Holy spirit Goliath was brought down to his death. David then used Goliath own sword to removed his head. When the philistine army, saw their champion head cut off and lifted up by David they fled in a panic realising their turn was next. To the carnal man this was foolish and silly it was the wisdom  of God

The two harlot's argued over whose was the living baby. Solomon called for a sword to divide the baby in two. In the courts today there would have been a Hugh out cry by women rights groups, social services, the supreme court, child protection specialist but look at the wisdom  of God. God sorted it without any of the above.

So you see God's ways are not our ways and the foolishness of God is wiser than the wisdom men.

Lock down No, Faith, trust, obedience and a call to repentance before Christ YES.

But as the heaven is higher than the earth so is God's ways  not our ways.

We don't all have to give over to unsaved carnal solutions. God has a better way but men prefer darkness to light because their deed are evil.

 

 

......to be consistent with your selfish logic— don’t forget to tear out your kid’s seatbelts and throw away your wife’s oven mitts.......

[vic66]

5 hours ago, Blood Bought 1953 said:

 

......to be consistent with your selfish logic— don’t forget to tear out your kid’s seatbelts and throw away your wife’s oven mitts.......

You need faith and trust in a living God not fear

And carnal worldly solutions.

If the above mentioned people followed your logic the Israelites would have been defeated and baby would have been given to the wrong mother.

But thank God for those who despite popular opinion obey God.

This is why the nation of Israel is here today people risk there lives to protect the Jews, and God still helped them despite of their rejection of Jesus.

Also speaking unpopular truths can help if you have a hear to hear. You need a quicken hear like Noah, Abel, Gideon, David, rehab and Stephen.

Yes Stephen,he lost his life for preaching the truth. The majority jewishish religious leaders hated his message, but he preached it any way under inspiration. Christ was honoured and many generations can now see what can happen when you stand up for the truth.

Yes I care about people losing their lives but dealing with the root cause SIN and rejection of the gospel message is the best way to remedy it.

Social isolation and lock down still leaves people in their home with sin and rebellion against God.

Wrath must continue!

preaching of the gospel is Palm in Gilead.

 

Edited April 2, 2020 by vic66

[vic66]

On 3/30/2020 at 12:11 AM, other one said:

I have a friend in Tulsa Oklahoma and the church they attend just found out they have 23 members tested positive and about 40 others with symptoms and are to be tested...

I agree these threads are getting distressing....

The truth can be painful

[Neighbor]

11 hours ago, vic66 said:

Social isolation and lock down still leaves people in their home with sin and rebellion against God.

 

No it does not. Church is more active than I remember ever being. Saints are studying, saints are sharing, saints are engaging in daily intercessory prayer.

 

Pointing  is not a ministry,  it is idleness. Those that point (as in you all are doing it wrong) for others to see  thinking they are doing  something instead of actually going about doing something waste their own time and that of others.

[Jayne]

11 hours ago, vic66 said:

Social isolation and lock down still leaves people in their home with sin and rebellion against God.

Wrath must continue!

preaching of the gospel is Palm in Gilead.

Oh, how sad you must be in real life.  Your judgments against God's people who are getting the Word out MORE than ever, farther than ever, with more excitement than ever is truly depressing to listen to.    Truly - your posts are heart-breaking - you condemnation is mind blowing.

Last night, my own pastor stood behind the pulpit for Wednesday night prayer meeting.  He preached a devotional and led the congregation in prayer for specific things and people.

The only difference in last night and "normal" Wednesday nights is this.  The only people in the physical church were the pastor, the cameraman and the sound man. Before this pandemic - we averaged about 25 people on Wednesday nights.  Last night on Facebook - 408 people watched the message he brought from Habakkuk and heard the prayer requests and prayed along at home.  My family was part of that group.

We are anxious to GO BACK to church.  But during the necessary hiatus, my church and countless other churches are finding ways to still get the Word out in ways we NEVER even thought of.  In fact, the churches were not even looking for ways to get the Word out other than face-to-face meeting in a building.

People are getting saved.  I've prayed for a certain family for YEARS.  Five people.  They just quit church a long time ago and the children don't even know it.  Two of them were saved watching yet another local pastor give his sermon alone behind his pulpit.  They saw it on social media.  They called his office - two of them went to his office, sat apart, and he counseled them and led them to Christ.  That would not have happened had THIS not happen.

The church will meet in the building AGAIN - and when we DO - the excitement of getting the gospel to the people in new and unique ways will increase.  I'm seeing a preparation for revival that I have never seen before.

You see, the devil thought if he could force us to stay home that the church would die.  He has found out just the opposite.

I pray to the Lord that you could understand this.

[other one]

12 hours ago, vic66 said:

Social isolation and lock down still leaves people in their home with sin and rebellion against God.

If you have to go to church meetings to keep from sinning and being in rebellion against God, what kind of a Christian are you....     and what kind of church do you attend...

A true born again Christian has a minute by minute realtionship with the Lord through the Holy spirit...   day in and day out...     and Sunday Church meetings is not where lost people generally go to learn about the Lord, that is where Christians meet to praise the Lord and learn more about him...    not meet him...

I don't understand your concept here.  You are willing to test God in ways Jesus wouldn't even do and then pretty much relate that one has to go to Church meetings not to sin...   i truly do not understand vic.

[vic66]

50 minutes ago, Jayne said:

Oh, how sad you must be in real life.  Your judgments against God's people who are getting the Word out MORE than ever, farther than ever, with more excitement than ever is truly depressing to listen to.    Truly - your posts are heart-breaking - you condemnation is mind blowing.

Last night, my own pastor stood behind the pulpit for Wednesday night prayer meeting.  He preached a devotional and led the congregation in prayer for specific things and people.

The only difference in last night and "normal" Wednesday nights is this.  The only people in the physical church were the pastor, the cameraman and the sound man. Before this pandemic - we averaged about 25 people on Wednesday nights.  Last night on Facebook - 408 people watched the message he brought from Habakkuk and heard the prayer requests and prayed along at home.  My family was part of that group.

We are anxious to GO BACK to church.  But during the necessary hiatus, my church and countless other churches are finding ways to still get the Word out in ways we NEVER even thought of.  In fact, the churches were not even looking for ways to get the Word out other than face-to-face meeting in a building.

People are getting saved.  I've prayed for a certain family for YEARS.  Five people.  They just quit church a long time ago and the children don't even know it.  Two of them were saved watching yet another local pastor give his sermon alone behind his pulpit.  They saw it on social media.  They called his office - two of them went to his office, sat apart, and he counseled them and led them to Christ.  That would not have happened had THIS not happen.

The church will meet in the building AGAIN - and when we DO - the excitement of getting the gospel to the people in new and unique ways will increase.  I'm seeing a preparation for revival that I have never seen before.

You see, the devil thought if he could force us to stay home that the church would die.  He has found out just the opposite.

I pray to the Lord that you could understand this.

Your pastor was in his office they went to him breaking so called lock down rules in many nations.  (Praise God)

Note many churches are completely closed .

Total surrender to the secular unsaved leaders

Render to caeser the things that are ceasers and to God the things that are God's.

Prayer and supplication, intercession, exholtation, Healing, miracles, fellowship of the body, Faith and the spirit of repentance belongs to God and his church. Not to Caesars

Caesar often  gets more then God.

[Jayne]

9 minutes ago, vic66 said:

Your pastor was in his office they went to him breaking so called lock down rules in many nations.  (Praise God)

Note many churches are completely closed .

Total surrender to the secular unsaved leaders

Render to caeser the things that are ceasers and to God the things that are God's.

Prayer and supplication, intercession, exholtation, Healing, miracles, fellowship of the body, Faith and the spirit of repentance belongs to God and his church. Not to Caesars

Caesar often  gets more then God.

You don't really care that they were saved from hell to live a life for Christ, do you.  All you are interested in is that you think they broke a rule and you rejoice over it.

Can you not hear yourself?  This was before the stay at home rule.  This was last week.  We were under a 10 person meeting or less.  But as I said, you don't care.

Had that been THIS week, he would have counseled them over the phone.  You don't care that 408 people heard my pastor's sermon do you?

Can you NOT HEAR what I am saying?  The Word is getting out and revival is coming.  But you don't give a darn.

I think you are a troll.  I have thought so since you came here.  I am now - with your flippant disregard of people being saved - am assured of your intent in coming here.

I will not be interacting with you again.  God help you.  I am praying for you.  But I have no time for you anymore.  You are a dead weight of oppression in the heart of Christians trying to be bold for Christ in a trying time.

As I said, God help you.

Edited April 2, 2020 by Jayne

[Jostler]

20 hours ago, Coliseum said:

Christ, not men, will decide the Wheat from the Tare. Should we believe that churches 2000 years ago were any different? The Seven in Revelation should be anyone's answer. Yet in none of them did Jesus command anyone to leave. Rather in the worst of them---Thyatira---where Christ came to execute judgment, he said the following: 
"Now I say to the rest of you in Thyatira, to you who do not hold to her teaching and have not learned Satan's so-called deep secrets (I will not impose any other burden on you): Only hold on to what you have until I come."  Revelation 2:24-25 

Do we not suppose that there are those in today's churches---where men go to worship the Living God---that we will not find the "the rest of you"?

Which man will decide whether those who go to "those places" are not there for sincere reasons? All Jesus asks is that, "Only hold on to what you have until I come." There are born-again saints who congregate in such places!

I think it's interesting how easily we misunderstand each other.  I am rejoicing in the coming destruction of a SYSTEM that has positioned itself in the eyes of the world, and even the eyes of many of HIS people as the "church", when it is nothing of the sort.

As His people were brought into bondage to Egypt in the Old Testament, the church....the REAL church has been brought into bondage to a system of religion that has nullified His power.  I have not attacked any person, or passed judgement on anyone as either wheat or tare.  Yet several have completely misconstrued my intent.  I am REJOICING in the knowledge that He is about to set His church, a multi-membered Body independent of any building, denomination or structure, completely free...ready to be built by Him into a Body that has not only the form of Godliness, but the power to transform the world it resides in.

That is coming, and I am still rejoicing to see it begin.  Let the towers fall.....

[Coliseum]

2 minutes ago, Jostler said:

I think it's interesting how easily we misunderstand each other.  I am rejoicing in the coming destruction of a SYSTEM that has positioned itself in the eyes of the world, and even the eyes of many of HIS people as the "church", when it is nothing of the sort.

As His people were brought into bondage to Egypt in the Old Testament, the church....the REAL church has been brought into bondage to a system of religion that has nullified His power.  I have not attacked any person, or passed judgement on anyone as either wheat or tare.  Yet several have completely misconstrued my intent.  I am REJOICING in the knowledge that He is about to set His church, a multi-membered Body independent of any building, denomination or structure, completely free...ready to be built by Him into a Body that has not only the form of Godliness, but the power to transform the world it resides in.

That is coming, and I am still rejoicing to see it begin.  Let the towers fall.....

Thx for your clarification. The system has been in existence ever since the old Devil has been given authority to reek havoc in the world, and those who have belonged to the kingdom of God have been escaping it ever since Adam and Eve.  Perhaps that is where the misunderstanding originated. I was seeing it fall since its inception; you are seeing it fall once for all.