Michael37 Posted January 14, 2021 Group: Servant Followers: 21 Topic Count: 241 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 6,953 Content Per Day: 3.27 Reputation: 4,871 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/23/1954 Share Posted January 14, 2021 I believe the Holy Spirit came to me with this message as I woke up this morning. I've been praying and thinking about the troubles in America, all the riots and unrest, and the gaping loopholes in democracy, and so I'm encouraged and comforted to receive the mind of Christ on the matter. . . America Must Forgive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alive Posted January 21, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 194 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 11,053 Content Per Day: 6.54 Reputation: 9,015 Days Won: 36 Joined: 09/12/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/09/1956 Share Posted January 21, 2021 Several threads in US Politics have been locked as they are repetitive and its been difficult to keep up with moderating. Perhaps the tone of this OP will lead to some edifying posts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlade Posted January 21, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 66 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 2,217 Content Per Day: 1.36 Reputation: 1,120 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/06/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/25/1961 Share Posted January 21, 2021 HI its not you its me.. what do you mean by forgive? Forgive alone amen! I stand in the gap for America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted January 21, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,135 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,859 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Online Share Posted January 21, 2021 On 1/14/2021 at 1:10 PM, Michael37 said: I believe the Holy Spirit came to me with this message as I woke up this morning. I've been praying and thinking about the troubles in America, all the riots and unrest, and the gaping loopholes in democracy, and so I'm encouraged and comforted to receive the mind of Christ on the matter. . . America Must Forgive. I'm not really sure what you mean by forgive.... forgive what and forgive who? BTW the USA is not a democracy, it's a constitutional republic. Huge difference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael37 Posted January 22, 2021 Group: Servant Followers: 21 Topic Count: 241 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 6,953 Content Per Day: 3.27 Reputation: 4,871 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/23/1954 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 4 hours ago, other one said: I'm not really sure what you mean by forgive.... forgive what and forgive who? BTW the USA is not a democracy, it's a constitutional republic. Huge difference. @TheBlade & @other one in particular: America must forgive past grievances perhaps, the short comings of leaders maybe. Someone should make a list. Funny what names are given to political parties, and what things make them jump up and down saying things like the recent Capitol Riot was an assault on democracy. Is the United States a Democracy? The United States is a democracy, but it is not a true democracy. Instead, it is a representative democracy. The common forms of democracy are direct democracy and representative democracy. A direct democracy is a system of government in which the majority have their say on every matter concerning governance. Direct democracies hold referendums each time an issue has to be decided upon because there are no elective representatives. The United States is a representative democracy, as the public elects individuals to represent them at the government level. The United States is also a constitutional democracy, meaning that the functions and roles of the government are governed by the constitution that also protects the rights and privileges of the citizenry regardless of whether they are majority or minority. Democratic Republics Modern states present themselves as democratic republics governed by a constitution. The government can amend the constitution through acts of parliaments and referendums. As long as the constitution continues to protect the rights of the people, the citizenry continues to vote for representatives, and the constitution limits the power of the government, the United States remains both a republic and a democracy. [Source: World Atlas.com ] At Gettysburg, Lincoln enshrined the people’s rule in the fervent pledge that, “under God,” this democracy “shall not perish from the earth.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just_abc Posted January 22, 2021 Group: Senior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 898 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 537 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/06/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, other one said: BTW the USA is not a democracy, um.. I am thinking whether or not the Usa is considered a democracy might sometimes depend on which english language someone is using perhaps? In many countries outside the Usa.. the definition of the term "democracy" includes representative democracies and not just direct democracy only. Sorry no offence intended..truly. Just wanted to mention about the english language differences. Especially since the internet is international.. and there are non-americans even on worthy. (Language differences can be um interesting .. at times! ) Edited January 22, 2021 by just_abc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted January 22, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,135 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,859 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Online Share Posted January 22, 2021 7 hours ago, Michael37 said: @TheBlade & @other one in particular: America must forgive past grievances perhaps, the short comings of leaders maybe. Someone should make a list. Funny what names are given to political parties, and what things make them jump up and down saying things like the recent Capitol Riot was an assault on democracy. Is the United States a Democracy? The United States is a democracy, but it is not a true democracy. Instead, it is a representative democracy. The common forms of democracy are direct democracy and representative democracy. A direct democracy is a system of government in which the majority have their say on every matter concerning governance. Direct democracies hold referendums each time an issue has to be decided upon because there are no elective representatives. The United States is a representative democracy, as the public elects individuals to represent them at the government level. The United States is also a constitutional democracy, meaning that the functions and roles of the government are governed by the constitution that also protects the rights and privileges of the citizenry regardless of whether they are majority or minority. Democratic Republics Modern states present themselves as democratic republics governed by a constitution. The government can amend the constitution through acts of parliaments and referendums. As long as the constitution continues to protect the rights of the people, the citizenry continues to vote for representatives, and the constitution limits the power of the government, the United States remains both a republic and a democracy. [Source: World Atlas.com ] At Gettysburg, Lincoln enshrined the people’s rule in the fervent pledge that, “under God,” this democracy “shall not perish from the earth.” Like I said, we are a constitutional Republic. Democracies have not lasted throughout history and the Democratic party is trying to convert the USA into a Democracy and no we are not going to forget or forgive. Democracies have, throughout history, always failed and ended up in Dictatorships in which life for the general public is miserable. Why would any sane person forgive and forget and let a group of people do that to them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Hamburgers! Posted January 22, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,144 Content Per Day: 0.34 Reputation: 163 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/02/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/05/1985 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Forgiveness is important, or at least a willingness to move on. Focusing on petty squabbles from the past and quid pro quo doesn't really get us anywhere. At the same time 'moving on' doesn't mean we should forget the lessons of the past, or choose not to hold people accountable for actions. I think there's more to untangle legally with Trump, and I also think it's fair to judge Biden on his future actions, holding him accountable just like any other president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted January 22, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 598 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,135 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,859 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Online Share Posted January 22, 2021 4 hours ago, just_abc said: um.. I am thinking whether or not the Usa is considered a democracy might sometimes depend on which english language someone is using perhaps? In many countries outside the Usa.. the definition of the term "democracy" includes representative democracies and not just direct democracy only. Sorry no offence intended..truly. Just wanted to mention about the english language differences. Especially since the internet is international.. and there are non-americans even on worthy. (Language differences can be um interesting .. at times! ) according to the Federalist Papers that were written by our founding Fathers.... if you haven't read through them you really should to learn what this country is supposed to be all about. Progressives/communists have tried to blend those two together as part of their hopes in transitioning so a socialist state so it would be no big deal to submit our laws and government to UN oversight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted January 22, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.80 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted January 22, 2021 There is a lot of bitterness that Biden is now our President. People need to let it go and move on. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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