Will the war in Ukraine escalate to the war of the 4th Seal of Revelation 6 ?

[R. Hartono]

Its the eternal conflict between Russia vs. US NATO which may escalate into WW3 of the 4th Seal preceded by food shortage of the 3rd Seal. Any opinion ? 

[Desopixi Seilynam]

It's a mask for the orchestrated collapse that is happening. Things from out of this world will spark ww3.

[Who me]

It is irrelevent whether it does or does not, as our behaviour should not change.

We will still be living for jesus regardless of what the war is or is not doing.

The unsaved will not believe it is the start of the end untill they see Jesus decending, when it will be to late.

[Dennis1209]

My perspective holds a pretribulation viewpoint. If the events we are witnessing are the ‘birth pains’ leading up to the Tribulation and the Tribulation is fast approaching (and I believe it is). We should expect to see the circumstances and conditions for the horsemen’s arrival. Everything aligns according to biblical prophecy, and at no other time in history has there been a ‘convergence’ of everything prophetic.

If no one has noticed by now, there are global shortages and transportation delays in everything from food to truck parts. I have yet to hear of one secular pundit or expert forecast any relief for the near future; things are anticipated to worsen.

We Christians are not in darkness or to fear these things because this is not our inheritance or eternal home. We do not know how long we will be here or how much we will witness before the Lord’s return; it can be at any moment. Seeing the Day approaching, I believe it is biblical, wise, and prudent to prepare for our families and ourselves the best we can.

John 16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

If we notice, the order of the horsemen follows a predictable historical pattern. War always exacerbates any existing problems with resources, famine, and pestilence. The producers and transporters of commodities are taken and used to support the military’s war efforts. The general population is left to fend for themselves and is required to support the war effort.

Famine and pestilence have always followed significant wars. Why are bodies buried or cremated shortly after death? What happens if thousands of bodies are left to decay on top of the ground?

Start looking at the "best used by" dates on the grocery shelves today and we should start to notice something. What is presently on the shelves today was grown and raised last year. There has been a significant reduction in global food production and transportation. Come October, November, and December of this year, what are our grocery shelves going to look like? I think the poor nations will feel the impact first and the most, followed by the rest of the world.

As I have previously mentioned, historically food has always been available, but at what price (hyperinflation, supply and demand). The oil and wine (elite, wealthy, celebrities, and politically connected) at first will not be affected. Hyperinflation will reach a point where it will take the common man a day’s wages just to feed himself. Are we seeing the beginning? Media talking heads are now using the vocabulary not since, never before, historical, unprecedented, etc. 

[Mike Mclees]

I first would like to know what views and beliefs you have about the end time tribulation You mentioned what Jesus said to the disciples about, " in the world there will be tribulation".  I believe that meant tribulation is something we have throughout our time in the world. So what is that tribulation Jesus was speaking of. So many today have the idea tribulation speaks of a period of seven years. What are your thoughts?

Edited July 9, 2022 by Mike Mclees

[Mike Mclees]

4 hours ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

It's a mask for the orchestrated collapse that is happening. Things from out of this world will spark ww3.

?   Could you explain your comment? 

[Dan Knight]

It certainly appears to be unifieing Europe. 

[Marathoner]

7 hours ago, Slibhin said:

I thought the world was ending in 2012.

It's supposed to end every few years, I guess.

[other one]

7 hours ago, Slibhin said:

I thought the world was ending in 2012.

Not really,   the Mayians were saying that their old god was coming back to start a renewal.  Bolon Yokte was his name and is tied in with creation.    It wasn't the end of the world, but a start of a new cycle.    A lot of conspiracy people put their own ideas and fears in with it and that's where that all came from.

Interestingly, we were on a cruise to Mexico just after that time and one of our shore excursion people was a Mayan priest.   he was making jokes about the end of the world but when I asked him if Bolon Yokte had actually returned he got a really shocked look on his face and would not even look at me for the rest of the trip.   It was very awkward.   I wasn't and still am not sure if he was bothered because he had not returned, or that I knew he was supposed to and did.

[Mike Mclees]

Concerning anything about the OP Jesus told the disciples that there would be signs of the end days. One of them was there will be wars and rumors of wars, but the end is not yet. How would any one know if the war in the Ukraine has anything to do with Chapter 4 of Revelation.