Israel

[other one]

20 minutes ago, Starise said:

Unless someone has inside information I am not privy to, I think it's really hard to determine what they have exactly or what they have access to, or who might slide them a few goodies, know what I mean?

Something surely seems to have emboldened them. More weapons? Access to the big boys? Hard to tell. 

I think it has to do with Israel and Saudi Arabia about to make a peace treaty.

[Starise]

6 minutes ago, other one said:

I think it has to do with Israel and Saudi Arabia about to make a peace treaty.

A spiritual battle that's poured into our reality. 

[other one]

22 minutes ago, warrior12 said:

Iran and Russia are allies and Russia need all the help they can get as they are being overwhelmed by Nato and western countries.  

I don't see us as overwhelming Russia in Ukraine.   Not from the news I get from both there and inside Russia.    Putin is being very careful not to push NATO into boots on the ground  situation.   Largely because it would not be worth the fight without going Nuclear almost immediately.    I can say that Russian Generals think they can win an all out Nuclear way.   Russia has an extensive civil defense system and the USA has none outside out places for our government and military leaders.

Two or three years ago they moved several million people underground in about 25 minutes in Moscow.

[Marathoner]

It should be pointed out that the US, the UK, and Israel have been sabotaging Iran's uranium enrichment efforts for years now. If my memory serves, Israel conducted a strike which demolished a critical Iranian enrichment facility. Uranium enrichment isn't something that just anyone can pull off. It's specific, exacting, requires facilities, and is very expensive. 

Conjecture runs wild. Nuclear ammunition isn't feasible. Implosion devices are --- these are bombs/warheads --- and this is the type of weapon nuclear states possess. I'm not sure some understand the nature of nuclear weapons, and why they were only used twice.

Israel possesses nuclear weapons. Have the Israelis used them against Iran? No. In spite of fear mongering and Russian propaganda, Russia won't use them either. They are supposed to be a "deterrent." Insane, but that's how it works. 

[Starise]

I remember those attacks on Iranian enrichment facilities.

You probably know a lot more about the weapons themselves. For one thing, I believe the bible doesn't allow for the total destruction of Israel through any means. Willing to be shown otherwise, but as I see it now if that type of weapon were to be used it would have to be small and not take out the whole country.

Since many of these countries are connected through agreements like NATO pledging support to the others, fighting a country like Israel with these connections is also inviting others to enter the fight. What actually ends up happening is another matter, with many smaller countries not even capable to protect themselves sufficiently.

The other alliances like Russia, Iran, and China, well they are just as potent. Probably the main reason we lost the viet nam war was help from the Chinese, whether some think we should have ever entered it in the first place is probably another matter. More recently pulling out of Iraq and leaving stockpiles of weapons there for our enemies to use wasn't the smartest thing to do, more importantly the people we left behind. 

Nuclear seems like a time saving solution to a mad man, but as you say, it's just a lot of conjecture. I read reports of 2000 missles shot into Israel. I don't believe a small unsupported group comes up with 2000 missles.

[TheBlade]

On 10/8/2023 at 12:08 AM, Wayne222 said:

    Israel been attacked. One of the signs of the end is Jerusalem being surrounded by armies. I do believe this is close. The city will fall according to scripture. Then Antichrist will enter Jerusalem. So the Antichrist is alive most likely and waiting in the wings. Everything is coming together now. Technology and the United States falling . The United States has protected Israel and now we are weak. We have a weak government. I think time is ripe for the world government that’s coming. Also the morals of the world is lower then ever. We accept LBGT which means pride in being gay. God is bringing judgement soon to such a world. First the tribulation then then day of the lord and the seven bowls of the wrath of God. The wise will take oil in there lamps which means a constant relationship with God daily through worship and prayer. The unwise who believe will be busy in everyday things. They will not see the signs. But the wise will understand.

The part "we accept". Israel does the same thing the same sins. Lost or saved sin always has a price in this world. That being said we are still here greater is He that is in us then He that's in the world. Our Father IS the GREAT I AM. We are still here. The battle is never with man. We can pray..lol can.. oh man we best be praying. Again we have the great I AM's ear.. Christ in us. All things are possible to US who believe.

And yes we know what is written has to happen but right now we are still here so lets agree as one and pray. 

[WilliamL]

21 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

I quite understand why you said that Willian, however I do believe I said an `IF` in my blog and posts. You may like to read what I write to ayin jade on this matter. 

Nothing in your post to aj shows any reason to pick 2024 over any other year. Pure speculation on your part, which is unfitting for a teacher of the Word.

Edited October 9, 2023 by WilliamL

[Marathoner]

2 hours ago, Starise said:

I remember those attacks on Iranian enrichment facilities.

You probably know a lot more about the weapons themselves. For one thing, I believe the bible doesn't allow for the total destruction of Israel through any means. Willing to be shown otherwise, but as I see it now if that type of weapon were to be used it would have to be small and not take out the whole country.

Since many of these countries are connected through agreements like NATO pledging support to the others, fighting a country like Israel with these connections is also inviting others to enter the fight. What actually ends up happening is another matter, with many smaller countries not even capable to protect themselves sufficiently.

The other alliances like Russia, Iran, and China, well they are just as potent. Probably the main reason we lost the viet nam war was help from the Chinese, whether some think we should have ever entered it in the first place is probably another matter. More recently pulling out of Iraq and leaving stockpiles of weapons there for our enemies to use wasn't the smartest thing to do, more importantly the people we left behind. 

Nuclear seems like a time saving solution to a mad man, but as you say, it's just a lot of conjecture. I read reports of 2000 missles shot into Israel. I don't believe a small unsupported group comes up with 2000 missles.

Conventional missiles are indeed a problem, and Hamas receives a steady supply from Iran. I think I mentioned the experience of a brother who was attached to the State Department before and during the Gulf War; he was a fluent Hebrew speaker, so he was assigned to work alongside the IDF. He told me about garbage trucks that had missile launchers hidden inside. 

That's certainly not the only means terrorists use to launch missles at Israel from Gaza, but it's one of them.

[Desopixi Seilynam]

20 hours ago, other one said:

The 70 is pertaining to years, not captivities.  I can't see that word associated with the 70.

Right, each captivity is seventy years.
And seventy captivities are to happen.

After 32 captivities the Messiah suffers the death penalty. Daniel 9:26
So there would be 38 captivities left after the Messiah.
38 sets of 70 year captivities, 2660 total years.

We can see at least 3 or so captivities in time.
The Babylonian captivity that Daniel was in.
The captivity around the time of Christ, 0 -70 a.d.
And the time of the crusades ending around 1260.
And at this point it should be clear that a captivity started in 1967,
2037 and beyond will mark these words.

 

[other one]

4 minutes ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

Right, each captivity is seventy years.
And seventy captivities are to happen.

After 32 captivities the Messiah suffers the death penalty. Daniel 9:26
So there would be 38 captivities left after the Messiah.
38 sets of 70 year captivities, 2660 total years.

We can see at least 3 or so captivities in time.
The Babylonian captivity that Daniel was in.
The captivity around the time of Christ, 0 -70 a.d.
And the time of the crusades ending around 1260.
And at this point it should be clear that a captivity started in 1967,
2037 and beyond will mark these words.

 

Your choice of words are just confusing things in my mind.