Mormonism...

[jude22kjv]

How do they reconcile their beliefs with the part in the Bible that says no one can take anything out of the Bible or add anything in?

They claim the Book of Mormon is simply an extension of the Bible - another testament of Jesus Christ.

What is an effective way to witness to them?

Here's a good place for information:

http://www.lifeafter...n_neighbors.asp

Actually from what I have been told they recognize the Book of Mormons, that black book that looks like a bible on my wife's sister in law's coffee table, to be more of the truth , a higher religious status than we do the "Bible". They believe some really bazzare notions that are not even in the Bible.

jude22kjv

[Steve_S]

The best way to evangelize, period, is to tell the truth in a loving and respectful fashion.

[JohnD]

I detect in the OP a sense of frustration I have experienced many times with many different kinds of people I have witnessed to or have tried to educate from the Bible.

Some times it is in my own home.

Do not preach to me... I know God... I know the Bible... how can you teach anything after all the sins you committed?

It's not about me. It's about God it's about the Bible. Great authors were not faulted for the inferior type writers they used. Why should God be ignored because I am not perfect but the words I use are his?

I have led people even here to water and showed them the scriptures and even illustrated some points (all with biblical citation of course). They shrug... "So?"

Don't stop telling people truth, friend. Just be glad when they do not clobber you in retaliation... they can and some day soon (I fear) they will.

2 Timothy 4:3 (NIV)

3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.

It's here!

They want to believe what they want to believe. That's the only reason (to them).

Matthew 13:57 (NIV)

57 And they took offense at him. But Jesus said to them, “Only in his hometown and in his own house is a prophet without honor.”

Mark 6:4 (NIV)

4 Jesus said to them, “Only in his hometown, among his relatives and in his own house is a prophet without honor.”

Be sure to read my signature (below) about prophets and prophecy.

[webb]

I have a one-on-one with one of them on another forum. I don't spare the rod. He seems to remain undented but many read who have been helped as per their response.

God bless

[Botz]

I have a few questions...I wasn't sure where to post this topic. I have witnessed to Mormons before, but I am at a loss. You would think that just showing them the evidence of their faulty religion would be enough to get them to investigate the history of their church and realize that it is false doctrine. But they don't. I tell them stuff they don't even know (about their religion), yet they irrationally stick to their beliefs.

How do they reconcile their beliefs with the part in the Bible that says no one can take anything out of the Bible or add anything in?

What is an effective way to witness to them?

God bless,

Natalie

Hello Natalie...

One of the most effective ways to witness to anyone is to counter their arguments with the truth...in the case of the Mormons if you can demonstrate a weakness in

one of their pillars of belief, I believe it is possible to prayerfully see them begin to question the foundations of their belief system.

There are many good books and resources available, but if I could point you in the direction of the Book of Hebrews chapters 4-10...read over thema few times

slowly and get to understand what the writer is talking about regarding the priesthood of Melchizedek...(and by default the Aaronic priesthood).

You will discover that the priesthood after the order of Melchizedek is 'non-transferable' because Jesus is our great High-Priest who lives forever...therefore it

is nonsense for them to lay claim to the Melchizedek priesthood...likewise the Aaronic serves no purpose, and could never be held by them anyway.

I won't continue...but if you should get into it I pray you get insight and revelation that will help you to help some of them.

[damo1]

when a person who belongs to a cult who has been brainwashed its hard to even debate you need to know their doctrine real well plus it does not help when they show nothing but hate its as if they get so offensive like they are defending their leader and the doctrine they hold on to

Their is a cult in the Philippines called Inglesia NI cristo this cult is a dangerous cult shows hate towards the catholics and protestants and sevral other denominations it sees its self as the true church speaks as if god is only speaking to them but very corrupted as its leaders tell its members who to vote for during the main ellections in my partners country

when mitt romney was running for the top job the mormans here in canberra hit the streets all were really wanting mitt romney to win one guy stopped and talked with me i simply said sorry i am not intrested i see also mormans in my partners country had an encounter with two american mormans who decided to witness to my partner she was at the back talking to her friend i was sitting near the jepnee driver who we knew i asked the spirit to guide me and these two mormans just backed right off they got off at the next provinace

what i do not like is how these cults pick on the weak and uneducated i could not believe how many cults are set up in the Philippines and how these leaders know who to target

[Babbler]

I live in a community where there are many Mormons and have had discussions with them stating the numerous errors and lies of the religion. No matter the mount of evidence, they just shine that stupid smile. The only conclusion I can draw from this is, to paraphrase Malcolm Muggeridge, at the end of the day, people believe lies not because they have to but because they want to.

[damo1]

I have a few questions...I wasn't sure where to post this topic. I have witnessed to Mormons before, but I am at a loss. You would think that just showing them the evidence of their faulty religion would be enough to get them to investigate the history of their church and realize that it is false doctrine. But they don't. I tell them stuff they don't even know (about their religion), yet they irrationally stick to their beliefs.

How do they reconcile their beliefs with the part in the Bible that says no one can take anything out of the Bible or add anything in?

What is an effective way to witness to them?

God bless,

Natalie

I don't know if there is any easy way to convert a Mormon, but I did stump one. I have read a fair amount of the Book of Mormon, and I could tell that what they are teaching today doesn't even agree with the book they promote. Apparently, the Latter Day Saints doctrine is based on later writings of Joseph Smith? What I did was go to the Mormon's official web-site, and into the chat room. I started asking questions about their beliefs and why they didn't match up with the Book of Mormon? The representative got so frustrated, he admitted he wasn't able to answer my questions, and asked me to come back on another day to talk to someone else. I don't know if that guy was effected to the point of changing his beliefs, but he had to wonder about the contradictions.

It is not the fact the Mormons have an additional book they consider scripture that makes the Latter Day Saints church obviously false, but the fact that Joseph Smith changed a lot of things that it says in the Book of Mormon later on in additional writings, and that is what the Latter Day Saints hold to today. The Book of Mormon actually comes against polygamy, yet Joseph Smith promoted polygamy and had many wives. That is what I focus on when I talk to a Mormon. I probably should re-familiarize myself with the Book of Mormon, and complete it, but it is so obviously a work of fiction, it is a waste of time except for witnessing purposes.

Hi

i would be intrested in anything you have as i tend to run into a lot off American mormons in my wifes country their is a morman church planted in negross occidental la castellana we live in cabacungan which is only 2 hours from la castellana

what i notice is filipinos do not like to challange or confront these cults that have been in the philippines for some time

i have gone over their doctrine also read their bible and burnt it what i notice is when you begin to question a morman on the way they were taught by their leaders they tend to love beating around the bush never do you get an honest answer i remember one female told me to go to hell i guess i had her thinking

hear is where i could not get a straight forward answer even the two americans mormans i was talking to on the jepnee

I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.

(Revelation 22:18-19 ESV)

my partner gets nerves when i challange a morman i try my best to explaine why i do this and have warned my wife and mother in law not to listen to what they have to say what i notice with the mormans is this they tend to target filipinos who have had no education or can not read as their are a lot off filipinos who have had not had the oppertunity to go to school like we have or learn to read

i am very patient when it comes to debating with a morman i tend to ask the spirit to guide me i tend to do this with out the morman not noticing i am asking the spirit to guide me

[bornagain2011]

Wow! That is a great idea! Going to their website and witnessing to them! I used to know alot about their religion, I was able to stump them once too with a simple question. I am a bit out of practice though. I asked the 2 missionaries if they believed in absolute truth and moral laws, they agreed of course, so I asked them where we get them from and they said god (little g cause it is their god), then I asked them which one....the one of this planet? Do all the gods have the same absolute truth and moral laws? Or does each one have their own? They couldn't answer me because they would of had to think if there was an ultimate source that those things come from, but they believe in infinite gods, which is illogical, nothing is infinite except the True God who is outside space and time and has always been. Their gods have NOT always been.

You guys are right...they love to believe the lie.

[bornagain2011]

I have a few questions...I wasn't sure where to post this topic. I have witnessed to Mormons before, but I am at a loss. You would think that just showing them the evidence of their faulty religion would be enough to get them to investigate the history of their church and realize that it is false doctrine. But they don't. I tell them stuff they don't even know (about their religion), yet they irrationally stick to their beliefs.

How do they reconcile their beliefs with the part in the Bible that says no one can take anything out of the Bible or add anything in?

What is an effective way to witness to them?

God bless,

Natalie

I don't know if there is any easy way to convert a Mormon, but I did stump one. I have read a fair amount of the Book of Mormon, and I could tell that what they are teaching today doesn't even agree with the book they promote. Apparently, the Latter Day Saints doctrine is based on later writings of Joseph Smith? What I did was go to the Mormon's official web-site, and into the chat room. I started asking questions about their beliefs and why they didn't match up with the Book of Mormon? The representative got so frustrated, he admitted he wasn't able to answer my questions, and asked me to come back on another day to talk to someone else. I don't know if that guy was effected to the point of changing his beliefs, but he had to wonder about the contradictions.

It is not the fact the Mormons have an additional book they consider scripture that makes the Latter Day Saints church obviously false, but the fact that Joseph Smith changed a lot of things that it says in the Book of Mormon later on in additional writings, and that is what the Latter Day Saints hold to today. The Book of Mormon actually comes against polygamy, yet Joseph Smith promoted polygamy and had many wives. That is what I focus on when I talk to a Mormon. I probably should re-familiarize myself with the Book of Mormon, and complete it, but it is so obviously a work of fiction, it is a waste of time except for witnessing purposes.

Hi

i would be intrested in anything you have as i tend to run into a lot off American mormons in my wifes country their is a morman church planted in negross occidental la castellana we live in cabacungan which is only 2 hours from la castellana

what i notice is filipinos do not like to challange or confront these cults that have been in the philippines for some time

i have gone over their doctrine also read their bible and burnt it what i notice is when you begin to question a morman on the way they were taught by their leaders they tend to love beating around the bush never do you get an honest answer i remember one female told me to go to hell i guess i had her thinking

hear is where i could not get a straight forward answer even the two americans mormans i was talking to on the jepnee

I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.

(Revelation 22:18-19 ESV)

my partner gets nerves when i challange a morman i try my best to explaine why i do this and have warned my wife and mother in law not to listen to what they have to say what i notice with the mormans is this they tend to target filipinos who have had no education or can not read as their are a lot off filipinos who have had not had the oppertunity to go to school like we have or learn to read

i am very patient when it comes to debating with a morman i tend to ask the spirit to guide me i tend to do this with out the morman not noticing i am asking the spirit to guide me

You seem pretty brave! It is scary sometimes to witness to them, they do beat around the bush alot! They always say "that is a good question, I can get back to you on that, can I come over tomorrow?"

I have asked them about that verse about not taking out or adding anything to the Bible, but they believe that the Bible isn't accurate anyways so they can't even trust that verse.

There are a couple of mormons in my classes in college and they ask me questions about my christian faith, one guy asked me what do I do after I sin, how do I atone for that sin, I told him my sins have been pardoned by Jesus Christ, He bought and payed for me with His blood, so I put my faith in Him and He cancels my debt. He kept asking it again because he didn't understand that I didn't have to do certain things. I left him baffled I guess!

We have alot of mormons here, I heard my town is the 2nd largest mormon town after Salt Lake City Utah. I am cornered by them, literally! They live next to me and across from me. Most of the time I can't even tell who is mormon because they are so...worldly.

Anyways, Thank you everyone for the advice and input, great suggestion!

Shalom,

Natalie