Can people become an angel?

[Hobbes]

 

 

Can we become an angel after death? 

 

Not after death, but those that are saved believers that have been found abiding in Him and His words as His disciples by His grace & by His help, will be resurrected as those alive will be changed to be akin to angels when the Bridegroom comes to receive the ready bride at the pre tribulational rapture event.

 

Luke 20:³⁴ And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage: ³⁵ But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage: ³⁶ Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.

 

we are to be like Jesus and he is NOT an angel we are to be like Jesus and HE is above angels. phillip 3:21

 

 

I agree about those that are worthy to obtain that firstfruit of the resurrection will be like the Son, but I believe Jesus's reference to the angels was that those of that resurrection would die no more, and not just that they do not marry, and thus in that respect to never dying any more as equal unto the angels because they can never die. 

 

As for what we shall be in being like the Son, whatever it will be, it will be glorious as the elect shall sing praises to Him for the works of His hands will be known by them as well as to be seen by others whom will give God the glory in Jesus's name also.

 

Just to be clear, I do not believe Jesus was an angel nor will we become angels ourselves.  It may be akin to angels, but not really angels, but better than angels

Edited August 17, 2014 by Hobbes

[Sevenseas]

 

 

Not after death, but those that are saved believers that have been found abiding in Him and His words as His disciples by His grace & by His help, will be resurrected as those alive will be changed to be akin to angels when the Bridegroom comes to receive the ready bride at the pre tribulational rapture event.

 

This is what you first stated Hobbes....so, you know, that would be why I really had a different impression of what you now seem to say

 

I won't discuss pre-Trib with you here though even though you did introduce that subject

 

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[Floatingaxe]

I think we will have a spiritual ( translucent ) body.

we are lower (on earth) than angels we will be above angels

we will be male and female as we are now.

no need to procreate

no need of sex organs

no spaghetti, beef stew, cornbread, or apple pie

no need of bathrooms

what ever our food is it will not have waste products as earthly food does

I could be wrong but I see this for now

 

Was Jesus translucent upon His resurrection? Didn't he eat honeycomb and fish? Cook breakfast? Walk to Emmaus? Break bread and drink wine? Walk through walls? Wasn't He still a man? Didn't He have gaping scars in His body that one could actually plunge one's hand into?

 

We will be like Him, physically.

 

1 John 3:2

Dear friends, we are already God’s children, but he has not yet shown us what we will be like when Christ appears. But we do know that we will be like him, for we will see him as he really is.

[Hobbes]

 

 

 

Not after death, but those that are saved believers that have been found abiding in Him and His words as His disciples by His grace & by His help, will be resurrected as those alive will be changed to be akin to angels when the Bridegroom comes to receive the ready bride at the pre tribulational rapture event.

 

This is what you first stated Hobbes....so, you know, that would be why I really had a different impression of what you now seem to say

 

I won't discuss pre-Trib with you here though even though you did introduce that subject

 

.......

 

 Understandably.  I believe every believer needs to clarify their meaning every now and then.  Even Paul did when clarifying that tongues were of other men's lips to speak unto the people in case readers misunderstood his words about praying in tongues when he meant if anyone speak in tongue, pray that someone else may interpret that tongue, thus signifying tongues is not used for praying.

 

The reference to pre trib was when that first inheritance that would be akin to angels would take place and not after death.  I did not mean to go into detail but it was to defer from the second inheritance which is being kings & priests in reigning with Christ.

[coheir]

 

I think we will have a spiritual ( translucent ) body.

we are lower (on earth) than angels we will be above angels

we will be male and female as we are now.

no need to procreate

no need of sex organs

no spaghetti, beef stew, cornbread, or apple pie

no need of bathrooms

what ever our food is it will not have waste products as earthly food does

I could be wrong but I see this for now

 

Was Jesus translucent upon His resurrection? Didn't he eat honeycomb and fish? Cook breakfast? Walk to Emmaus? Break bread and drink wine? Walk through walls? Wasn't He still a man? Didn't He have gaping scars in His body that one could actually plunge one's hand into?

 

We will be like Him, physically.

 

1 John 3:2

Dear friends, we are already God’s children, but he has not yet shown us what we will be like when Christ appears. But we do know that we will be like him, for we will see him as he really is.

 

first I am not a scholar, I make mistakes and have a bad memory. I try to read the bible and learn what it says I do not have time to read every book I can get my hands on. Im sure there are things I do not know, If God punishes me for that I'll take the punishment. I do not think im am right and am not pushing my thoughts on anyone. In the post you quoted it says " I think"

Angels came to earth and appeared as human but Jesus can not?????????

[Sevenseas]

 

 

 

 

Not after death, but those that are saved believers that have been found abiding in Him and His words as His disciples by His grace & by His help, will be resurrected as those alive will be changed to be akin to angels when the Bridegroom comes to receive the ready bride at the pre tribulational rapture event.

 

This is what you first stated Hobbes....so, you know, that would be why I really had a different impression of what you now seem to say

 

I won't discuss pre-Trib with you here though even though you did introduce that subject

 

.......

 

 Understandably.  I believe every believer needs to clarify their meaning every now and then.  Even Paul did when clarifying that tongues were of other men's lips to speak unto the people in case readers misunderstood his words about praying in tongues when he meant if anyone speak in tongue, pray that someone else may interpret that tongue, thus signifying tongues is not used for praying.

 

The reference to pre trib was when that first inheritance that would be akin to angels would take place and not after death.  I did not mean to go into detail but it was to defer from the second inheritance which is being kings & priests in reigning with Christ.

 

 

 

OK then...thanks

 

but tongues is for praying also....but that is another discussion....and has been dragged to the nth degree in other threads here  

[Floatingaxe]

 

 

I think we will have a spiritual ( translucent ) body.

we are lower (on earth) than angels we will be above angels

we will be male and female as we are now.

no need to procreate

no need of sex organs

no spaghetti, beef stew, cornbread, or apple pie

no need of bathrooms

what ever our food is it will not have waste products as earthly food does

I could be wrong but I see this for now

 

Was Jesus translucent upon His resurrection? Didn't he eat honeycomb and fish? Cook breakfast? Walk to Emmaus? Break bread and drink wine? Walk through walls? Wasn't He still a man? Didn't He have gaping scars in His body that one could actually plunge one's hand into?

 

We will be like Him, physically.

 

1 John 3:2

Dear friends, we are already God’s children, but he has not yet shown us what we will be like when Christ appears. But we do know that we will be like him, for we will see him as he really is.

 

first I am not a scholar, I make mistakes and have a bad memory. I try to read the bible and learn what it says I do not have time to read every book I can get my hands on. Im sure there are things I do not know, If God punishes me for that I'll take the punishment. I do not think im am right and am not pushing my thoughts on anyone. In the post you quoted it says " I think"

 

Angels came to earth and appeared as human but Jesus can not?????????

 

 

Angels are capable of taking on human form. Jesus is human.

[coheir]

 

 

 

I think we will have a spiritual ( translucent ) body.

we are lower (on earth) than angels we will be above angels

we will be male and female as we are now.

no need to procreate

no need of sex organs

no spaghetti, beef stew, cornbread, or apple pie

no need of bathrooms

what ever our food is it will not have waste products as earthly food does

I could be wrong but I see this for now

 

Was Jesus translucent upon His resurrection? Didn't he eat honeycomb and fish? Cook breakfast? Walk to Emmaus? Break bread and drink wine? Walk through walls? Wasn't He still a man? Didn't He have gaping scars in His body that one could actually plunge one's hand into?

 

We will be like Him, physically.

 

1 John 3:2

Dear friends, we are already God’s children, but he has not yet shown us what we will be like when Christ appears. But we do know that we will be like him, for we will see him as he really is.

 

first I am not a scholar, I make mistakes and have a bad memory. I try to read the bible and learn what it says I do not have time to read every book I can get my hands on. Im sure there are things I do not know, If God punishes me for that I'll take the punishment. I do not think im am right and am not pushing my thoughts on anyone. In the post you quoted it says " I think"

 

Angels came to earth and appeared as human but Jesus can not?????????

 

 

Angels are capable of taking on human form. Jesus is human.

 

I believe Jesus was not human and took on the human to save mankind and AFTER all humanly work was done he went back to his original foem that was not human. I could be wrong and show me if I am wrong I will listen and read your side of the issue and see if I change my mind.

[Willa]

Jesus took on a glorified or spiritual body after his resurrection.  We will have a new body like His.  But he still ate fish and broke bread with the disciples.  

I think of Him appearing as He does in Rev. 1.

 

But it the beginning, prior to creation, He existed as the WORD.  He spoke the worlds into existence.  He called Himself I AM.  As such He was Spirit but took on the appearance of an angel, such as the commander and chief of the Lord's armies or the Angel of the Lord; but since angel means messenger I am not sure about His appearance.  Normally no wings are spoken of when pertaining to angels, but only with cherubim and seraphim;  the other winged creatures that may have been female were evil.   

[other one]

Jesus took on a glorified or spiritual body after his resurrection.  We will have a new body like His.  But he still ate fish and broke bread with the disciples.  

I think of Him appearing as He does in Rev. 1.

 

But it the beginning, prior to creation, He existed as the WORD.  He spoke the worlds into existence.  He called Himself I AM.  As such He was Spirit but took on the appearance of an angel, such as the commander and chief of the Lord's armies or the Angel of the Lord; but since angel means messenger I am not sure about His appearance.  Normally no wings are spoken of when pertaining to angels, but only with cherubim and seraphim;  the other winged creatures that may have been female were evil.   

well, technically they were carrying evil......   I don't think it says the two winged women were evil, and they did keep the lid on it so she wouldn't get out......

Just had a thought.  Could it be the woman that rides the beast in Revelation?   Please tell me that it is not....