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I thought it was quite clear that  Jesus is the only Son of God, but then I read this morning (not for the first time) this:

 

  Job 1:6   Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan[a] also came among them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And then I was  reminded of this:  

 

 

 

 

Genesis 6:1-2  

Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose.

 

 

 

 

What is the meaning of the word sons in each passage? Is it one and the same or different in each instance?  I can't even come up any senarios that I can make sense of.

 

 

 

Your thoughts please.


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Thinking about it, I may have  posted something similar here before. If that's the case, then it didn't get  a resolve and I apologize. 

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Though it doesn't come off very well in English, both biblical Hebrew and Greek are very nuanced languages and are more precise than English.   The use of the term Son of God in the original languages to refer to Jesus is unique to Him alone.  The difference doesn't seem very apparent in English.

 

That may be a source of the confusion.


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So who are these other 'sons' then???


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i'd have to do a lot of looking, but it seems to me that somewhere I got the idea that when the Bible speaks of Christ it is calling him the only begotten son of God.....   I have no idea where I first read that.   Jesus is truly the only begotten son of God.

It even refers to born again Christians as sons of God as are the angels......   but not begotten.


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So who are these other 'sons' then???

Every civilization that has left a recorded history tell of gods coming from another realm and having children with humans.

Those gods (little 'g') in my opinion were the fallen angels.   A very long time ago back in college days I got interested in the early church fathers from a class I was taking.   It seemed that several of those early Christians considered a couple of books to be either trustworthy or inspired.  They quoted from them in their writings.  Those two books were the first two books of Enoch, and the book of Jasher.

 

Both of those books describe in detail of the fallen ones coming here and having children and generally genetically modifying everything from plants and animals to humans.

 

Because I do believe these books are trustworthy, it is very difficult for me to discuss the subject with those who only want to discuss what is in the accepted cannon today.

 

to my thinking, sons of God are the entities that God directly created himself........    and when we are spiritually born again, we are directly created by God in the spiritual realm......   thus are sons and daughters of God..... 

 

Hummmm.......    Will we even have genders in our resurrected bodies???    Something new to ponder.....   and I'm already arguing with myself....   I might should go ponder on this for a while....


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I thought it was quite clear that  Jesus is the only Son of God, but then I read this morning (not for the first time) this:

 

  Job 1:6   Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan[a] also came among them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And then I was  reminded of this:  

 

 

 

 

Genesis 6:1-2  

Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose.

 

 

 

 

What is the meaning of the word sons in each passage? Is it one and the same or different in each instance?  I can't even come up any senarios that I can make sense of.

 

 

 

Your thoughts please.

 

Job 1:

7 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

This indicates God was not on earth when they came before him. It could not have been human "sons of God "

these were I aggree

other one  imo has it right.


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SonS of God usually refer to angels.  THE Son of God is Jesus.  


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The sons of God are of the lineage of Seth;  the one that replaced Abel when he was murdered by Cain.

 

In tracing the the genealogy of Jesus by way of Mary's father, Heli, back to Adam, we can see this identity clearer still.

 

Luke 3:38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

 

What Israel was by bloodline, believers in Jesus Christ are now the sons of God by faith in Jesus Christ.

 

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

 

Many believers mistaken angels for being the sons of God, but Jesus reproved that by His word so it wasn't the angels being married off to take the daughters of men as wives unto them in Genesis.  Just as scripture was for the nation of Israel to follow the major reason why they should not marry outside of the nation of Israel, one can see how those marrying outside of the lineage of Seth being the sons of God, had brought trouble.

 

Mark 12:24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God? 25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.

 

Of the two times that the sons of God presented themselves to the Lord, God pointed out Job twice to Satan whom had come among them.  That means Job was one of the sons of God.

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Of the two times that the sons of God presented themselves to the Lord, God pointed out Job twice to Satan whom had come among them.  That means Job was one of the sons of God.

 

One day the angelsa came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satanb also came with them. 7The Lord said to Satan, “Where have you come from?”

Satan answered the Lord, “From roaming throughout the earth, going back and forth on it.”

 

 

Notice that Job is not mentionned 

 

8Then the Lord said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil.”

9“Does Job fear God for nothing?” Satan replied. 10“Have you not put a hedge around him and his household and everything he has? You have blessed the work of his hands, so that his flocks and herds are spread throughout the land. 11But now stretch out your hand and strike everything he has, and he will surely curse you to your face.”

12The Lord said to Satan, “Very well, then, everything he has is in your power, but on the man himself do not lay a finger.”

Then Satan went out from the presence of the Lord.

 

Now I would be interested to understand how you believe that Job appeared before God and was therefore one of the angels....please read the portion of

scripture above that actually details the occurence you seem to be referring to.  You are basically adhering to one possible explanation regarding

the the sons of God were and it seems that has led you to concur that Job was a son of God.  

 

Apart from the fact I do not hold to your option regarding the sons of God, I still would disagree with your stating Job was hanging out with the angels and

satan.

 

God did not point out Job as though he was standing in the company of celestial or spiritual beings....God asked if the devil had CONSIDERED Job....which

is a different matter altogether.  The Bible does not state that Job and satan left God....the Bible tells us, in Job 1, that satan left the presence of God.

 

I would certainly disagree there is any evidence that Job was a son of God in the context of Job chapter one...or any other passage.

 

When we are called sons and or daughters in the NT, it is because of our rebirth... God becomes our Father...we are not sons of God in the sense

of the OT references.  

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