A Long Hair, Tattoo Pastor

[Guest shiloh357]

I honestly don't see why anyone cares if a pastor has long hair and tattoos.  In the grand scheme of things, it really doesn't matter.   This is nothing but making an issue out of a non-issue.

[Openly Curious]

I find the content of your thread which is the real shame as putting others in a place to be judgemental of such a said person with long hair and tattoos.  It is God who saves and it is God who calls and it should be left at that when it comes to making judgements on people in whom we have never met personally before.  It is a shame to put us in such a position in my personal opinion on the matter to make such a judgement.  If that makes me legalistic to take such a view towards people I do not even know then so be it.   I do know if I wanted to be pleasing to the Lord in my calling I certainly wouldn't want to be a shame in any way shape or form (referring to long hair as the issue is addressed in the New Testament as being a shame).  I would want above all else to be accepted by others around me so that I could win some to the gospel instead of being a hinderance in any compacity in the things I allow that others "may" reject.  The gospel message is not a personal matter but the gospel message to the lost is to repent for the kingdom of God is at hand,  and be ye reconciled to God if any man be in Christ he is made a new creature old things are passed away and behold all things are made new.   These topics should not be made into a joke.

[FresnoJoe]

To those who think I am behaving as the Pharisees, notice what Jesus says you are to do. 

You are to observe and do whatsoever I bid you observe. 

 

Do you still want to compare me to the Pharisees

knowing what Jesus expects of you if I am a Pharisee? 

 

All those

things I have said

about clothing and hair length,

and in this thread tattoos, 

you are to observe

and do.

 

 

Beloved, Sometimes I Wonder Just Who We Think We Are

Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth.

 

Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able

 

to make him stand. Romans 14:4 (KJV)

For Really Brother, It Is All About The LORD

and by which you are being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you—unless you believed in vain.

 

For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received:

 

that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures, 

 

that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day

 

in accordance with the Scriptures, 1 Corinthians 15:2-4 (ESV)

And

 

Even the righteousness of God

 

which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe:

 

for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

 

Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption

 

that is in Christ Jesus:

 

 

Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood,

 

to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

 

To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

 

Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works?

 

Nay: but by the law of faith. Romans 3:22-27

 

His Salvation

 

Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,

 

To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power,

 

both now and ever. Amen. Jude 1:24-25 (KJV)

 

~

 

Glory Glory Glory To The LORD Of LORD'S

 

I am the LORD: that is my name:

 

and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images. Isaiah 42:8 (KJV)

 

Holy Holy Holy

 

And one cried unto another, and said,

 

Holy, holy, holy, is the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory. Isaiah 6:3 (KJV)

 

~

 

Be Blessed Beloved Of The KING

 

The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:

The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:

he LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

 

And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them. Numbers 6:24-27

 

Love, Your Brother Joe

[John Robinson]

These threads never end well. Never.

[FresnoJoe]

These threads never end well. Never.

 

 

Point

 

Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: John 11:25

 

To Jesus

 

And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? John 11:26

[His_disciple3]

Butero:   the insults are not called for. I have no tattoos and my hair is not on my shoulders, here is your Quote:

 

being clean shaven is not rounding the corners of your beard. That is one of the most idiotic things I have heard people present at Worthy Boards over the years to try to defend their own sins, like having a tattoo. Even if it was what it means, and it clearly is not, it won't get anyone off the hook for their own sins. This tit for tat nonsense is just that, nonsense. All it would mean is that if it was wrong to be clean shaven, then we need to preach against it, not defend other sins. To me, rounding the corners of your beard would be more like a goaty or something like that, but I am not sure that is even what it means. I am 100 percent positive it isn't being clean shaven.

 

now some times we have to stop and listen to what we are being taught and what we are saying; now you saying that being cleaned shaved is NOT rounding your beard. so let me ask you this. how can I not round (mar) my beard if I have no beard to not round. . God sees the heart not the outer appearance.

[Openly Curious]

obviously regardless of popular thought God does see and is very much aware of both our outward and inward man and what they look like in his eyes.  If one thinks other wise then they are not balanced inwardly nor outwardly.  Does not God even know the number of hairs we have on our heads?   Does not God know the intent of our our hearts?  Does not God know what we have need of before we even ask or think it?  Are we not created in God's image (outwardly)?  Are we not being transformed to his image (inwardly) on a day to day basis?.  Yes God does see both our inward man as well as our outward man.  It is true God looketh on the heart as was told to the prophet Samuel and was the example of that of King Saul who had a goodly appearance outwardly but inwardly King Saul failed miserable and wasn't a good person in the end was he. 

 

But it is equally true that the heart is seen and read by all as we are living epistles known and read by all men.   What do people read in you as a living epistle?  There is such a thing as walking contrary to the word of God and most don't want to acknowledge it because their personal wills are above and more important than God's will.  Personal comfort and pleasures are winning out and not just in the topic of the thread but because their is a lack of caring and concern toward really winning the lost.  For the most part winning the lost is not the priority but instead it is personal pleasure plain and simple.  But God foretold to us that this would be a sign to us in the last days "that men would be lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God".   These type threads are only a sign to me of what apostle Paul told young Timothy years ago that would be going on in the last days.   I usually do not even reply or get involved in these type of threads but it seems today is a different day and I feel I should share my thoughts on the matter in certain regards.   I am aware of what a person does before their salvation is there past and it is forgiven all a person can do is go from there and walk worthy of their vocation and calling in God.  If you got a tattoo that reflects the kingdom of Satan before you were saved there is no ajax or bon ami that can wash it off it's permanent unless you get it removed.  But you don't go and make the same mistake again after salvation.  They will be some that want receive you when they see you have a tattoo as being of God whether it is what you would call a christian tatoo or not because some people view them as wrong and always will.  But if God has a calling on your life then God will bring his purpose to pass and souls will enter into the kingdom of God such as should be saved.   What is it that we want our hearts to reflect to the world today how sloppy and lazy we can be just to show those around us God only looks on the heart.  Well I personally think that is bogus.

[angels4u]

I honestly don't see why anyone cares if a pastor has long hair and tattoos.  In the grand scheme of things, it really doesn't matter.   This is nothing but making an issue out of a non-issue.

 

Agree ~~

[1to3]

Butero and all others who in this thread and other similar threads that rebuke women for wearing shorter/longer hairstyles, pants/skirts,jewelry/no jewelry,

make up/no make up,long hair/short hair on men,  casual clothing/formal clothing, dentures/no dentures..

 

I don't live by the O.T. law of works, I live by the N.T.law of Gods Mercy and Grace living in me.

Christ Jesus healed on the sabbath.

Christ Jesus did not wash his hands necessarily before eating.

No one knows if Christ Jesus had long or short hair, but  it is said that they plucked at his beard.

 

If you follow things by the O.T. LAWS then follow ALL the old testament laws don't just pick and choose.

 

Leviticus 19:19
"'Keep my decrees. "'Do not mate different kinds of animals. "'Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. "'Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of

 

 

Deuteronomy 22:11
…10"You shall not plow with an ox and a donkey together. 11"You shall not wear a material mixed of wool and linen together. 12"You shall make yourself tassels on the four corners of your garment with which you cover yourself.

 

If you are wearing mixed fibers butero and like minded others, you are sinning according to O.T. directives.

Better make sure you wear your tassels on the four corners of your garment with which you cover yourself and make sure your special K does not contain mixed grains and God forbid you ever eat pork or lobster or shrimp or scampies.

 

Picking and choosing...

Now Gods commandment to not kill as become not murder, because its o.k. to kill but it isn't to murder?

 

Tomatoe/ tomato

ass/donkey,

Male cow poo-poo/ bulls (excrements)

kill/murder

 

Vengeance is mine said the Lord,

not ours to act on.

 

The ten commandments are quite clear.

By Gods grace and the Holy Spirit of God working in our hearts, they should be written in our hearts.

 

and Christs Jesus commandment to love one another as in this ALL the commandment are fulfilled.

 

Who is living under the Law of the O.T. or under Grace of the N.T.?

 

You either place your faith in the law of works of the O.T.

or

you place your faith in the law of  Mercy & Grace of the N.T.

[Openly Curious]

Just a word here to make it plain,  There is no Old Testament law that was written in the Old covenant of Moses that can bring righteousness. Whether you keep all the old law or part of the old law of Moses.   You can practice and keep the old covenanant laws from sun up to sun down till the day you die and their is no righteousness to be had or that will ever be imputed to you.  I don't care personally what side of the fence someone is on on these type of issues whether you are one who thinks you can wear makeup or not or choose the clothing you want to wear or not wear or how short or how long to wear your hair.   Righteousness is not found in those beliefs or opinions in keeping or not keeping the old testament laws of Moses.  It takes the blood of Jesus to purge away your sins once and for all.  If there could have been an old testament law that could have been made and written down by the very finger of God himself it couldn't have purged away our sins once for all nor could the blood of the bulls of goats purge our sins and conscious toward God.  That is why the old covenant was imperfect because it couldn't purge away our sins nor was it designed or given for that purpose.  But the bringing in of a better hope and covenant did based on better promises as the blood of Christ is the only thing that can purge away our sins and sprinkle our conscious from dead works to serve the living God.   My question is are we allowing our conscioius to be sprinkled from dead works to serve the living God or just arguing over what our wills are over God's and others preferences.