Arrested for disrupting Osteen's sermon

[Guest shiloh357]

Freedom of speech doesn't really apply to private property.   You don't have the same freedom in someone's home or even in a church that you might have on Facebook.   The property owner can decide that he doesn't want your religion or political views expressed in his home or on his premises. 

 

Freedom of speech is the right to speak your mind publicly in a public forum without fear of repercussions.  Since Worthy is privately owned what people say can be regulated per the TOS.

[Hawkeye]

 

 

By the way Hawkeye, was this a drive-by posting? Do you have a position yourself, or are you just a rabbel-rousing troublemaker?

 

 

Well, to address your comments I will take a two fold approach. First of all, when I last checked the thread- there were no replies.

Secondly, I have chosen to receive notifications, but have apparently not received them- therefore I was unaware that people had posted.

 

I think your accusation toward me is rude, demeaning, and is a poor excuse for how to be loving in ministry.- That being said, I do have a thought. I completely disagree with Joel Osteen's philosophy and doctrine. No, I don't think they should have been allowed to disrupt services- but I think arresting was overkill. They could have simply been asked to leave and escorted out by security.

 

Osteen's approach in the video of treating it as persecution and the devil trying to distract, was out of line as well.

[The_Patriot21]

I would imagine, if the cops were called, that its safe to assume that they WERE asked to leave. probably several times before the cops were called.

[Omegaman 3.0]

I think your accusation toward me is rude, demeaning, and is a poor excuse for how to be loving in ministry.

 

Good thoughts there Hawkeye, I am sorry that you took my post the way you did. I thought you knew me well enough to recognize me in my good willed sarcasm mode. I apologize for causing you hurt.

 

I also am not an Osteen fan, but I cannot endorse the actions of petty criminals behaving badly either. Their unruliness reflects badly on the church as a whole.

[missmuffet]

 

I think your accusation toward me is rude, demeaning, and is a poor excuse for how to be loving in ministry.

 

Good thoughts there Hawkeye, I am sorry that you took my post the way you did. I thought you knew me well enough to recognize me in my good willed sarcasm mode. I apologize for causing you hurt.

 

I also am not an Osteen fan, but I cannot endorse the actions of petty criminals behaving badly either. Their unruliness reflects badly on the church as a whole.

 

Sometimes sarcasm rubs me the wrong way.I also agree that arresting them is overreacting.I understand people are a little nervous about the recent tragedies that have happened in Churches.I also stand up for them verbalizing that Osteen is a false teacher.

[walla299]

 

 

I think your accusation toward me is rude, demeaning, and is a poor excuse for how to be loving in ministry.

 

Good thoughts there Hawkeye, I am sorry that you took my post the way you did. I thought you knew me well enough to recognize me in my good willed sarcasm mode. I apologize for causing you hurt.

 

I also am not an Osteen fan, but I cannot endorse the actions of petty criminals behaving badly either. Their unruliness reflects badly on the church as a whole.

 

Sometimes sarcasm rubs me the wrong way.I also agree that arresting them is overreacting.I understand people are a little nervous about the recent tragedies that have happened in Churches.I also stand up for them verbalizing that Osteen is a false teacher.

 

 

Osteen notwithstanding, I think in light of the church shooting back east that arresting those folks was the right thing to do. Much damage could have been done if they were violent and armed. I rather have that than more people dead.

[FresnoJoe]

I cannot endorse the actions of petty criminals behaving badly....

 

 

To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men. Titus 3:2

[Hawkeye]

 

I think your accusation toward me is rude, demeaning, and is a poor excuse for how to be loving in ministry.

 

Good thoughts there Hawkeye, I am sorry that you took my post the way you did. I thought you knew me well enough to recognize me in my good willed sarcasm mode. I apologize for causing you hurt.

 

I also am not an Osteen fan, but I cannot endorse the actions of petty criminals behaving badly either. Their unruliness reflects badly on the church as a whole.

 

 

It's okay

[MorningGlory]

 

 

I think your accusation toward me is rude, demeaning, and is a poor excuse for how to be loving in ministry.

 

Good thoughts there Hawkeye, I am sorry that you took my post the way you did. I thought you knew me well enough to recognize me in my good willed sarcasm mode. I apologize for causing you hurt.

 

I also am not an Osteen fan, but I cannot endorse the actions of petty criminals behaving badly either. Their unruliness reflects badly on the church as a whole.

 

 

It's okay

 

 

Hawkeye, not to go O.T. but I gotta say it.  I love your cat sig and the line about women and cats.  Truer words are seldom spoken! 

[RustyAngeL]

Heckling someone on their own private property doesn't fall under the category of constitutionally protected speech.   It is more akin to harassment.

I would have to agree here.  I just don't listen to this false teacher.