should CHRISTIANS OWN WEAPONS OR FIGHT BACK AGAINST THE SYSTEM?

[Omegaman 3.0]

On 8/6/2015 at 9:15 PM, The_Patriot2016 said:

but for me I keep two things by my bed at night-a bible and a .45 ACP.

ahhhh, so you are that "bitter clinger" that Obama spoke of!

[The_Patriot21]

53 minutes ago, Omegaman 3.0 said:

ahhhh, so you are that "bitter clinger" that Obama spoke of!

Indeed, I'm also a deplorable and proud of it!

[other one]

We are over 350 posts; don't you all think that we should just let this go.

 

[The_Patriot21]

5 minutes ago, other one said:

We are over 350 posts; don't you all think that we should just let this go.

 

I was thinking that before someone decided to revive this ancient thread...but I guess some things never die. Even if this one was allowed to die the topic would just come up again at some point.

[Guest Robert]

11 hours ago, The_Patriot2016 said:

I was thinking that before someone decided to revive this ancient thread...but I guess some things never die. Even if this one was allowed to die the topic would just come up again at some point.

Perhaps it should be locked?

[The_Patriot21]

6 hours ago, Robert said:

Perhaps it should be locked?

I see no point in that for above reason. 

[Salty]

On 11/26/2016 at 11:12 AM, hmbld said:

Still, there were more than two people there, and its unlikely they were going to stay in a group, why did He tell them, whoever does not have a sword to buy one, but then only two people had one?  That means a great many would have no sword for self defense, kind of defeats the argument?

You're not having separated the two ideas is causing that error of thinking. Go buy a sword if you don't have one is one idea; that those who held up a sword already having one is another idea.

There really shouldn't be any argument on this matter, because what would one do if alone in the wilderness with a wild animal pestering them? They'd be looking for something to use as a weapon in self-defense. The need for self-defense is in our nature of how God created us with the natural urge for survival.

[The_Patriot21]

Keep in mind on the road the worry was being robbed, and your common thief is looking for a easy target, not one that would fight back. Realistically, 2 swords would chase off most your common thieves because they wouldn't want a fight. Just like today, if there's 12 people, but only 2 had guns, then the same principal applies, most common criminals still won't mess with the group. So for a defensive purpose, 2 weapons among 12 people is more then enough.

[Dennis1209]

On 8/6/2015 at 11:15 PM, The_Patriot2016 said:

Ok, first off, why all caps? Do you really need to scream at us? So do is a favor please and lay off the caps.

 

Second off, I'll come out and just say it, I am a proud member of the NRA, I own multiple firearms, I have a concealed carry permit, and I do carry on a regular basis, as well as practice and train with them to be proficient with them.

 

As far as when I had them, I feel God has given me not only the right, but the responsibility to protect my family, even if it means using deadly force. I would seek a peaceful resolution at all costs and try to avoid being in a situation where I would have to use one, but I garentees you, if there was rioting in the streets and they were hurting people and it came down to them or my kids, I garentees it would be it will be them even if it means standing on my roof with my sks.

 

As far as a revolution against the government, I can't really say, whether I would actively participate or not. A lot would depend whobwas fighting the government, as in how much I liked and can support their cause, how much of a chance I thought they had, which route keeps my family the safest without compromising values, and most importantly, where God was leading me.

 

Jesus was not a pacifist. The Bible does allow Christians to own weapons and use them in specific situations. And, as a father, we are responsible for raising, leading, and protecting, our families. Different people do it different ways, and I won't fault a christian for not owning firearms, but for me I keep two things by my bed at night-a bible and a .45 ACP.

Well, I don't want any copyright or intellectual property claims against me, so I'll let the above convey my thoughts. I will say that 15 + 1 makes a bed stands much happier than 8 + 1 though. 

[hmbld]

50 minutes ago, The_Patriot2016 said:

Keep in mind on the road the worry was being robbed, and your common thief is looking for a easy target, not one that would fight back. Realistically, 2 swords would chase off most your common thieves because they wouldn't want a fight. Just like today, if there's 12 people, but only 2 had guns, then the same principal applies, most common criminals still won't mess with the group. So for a defensive purpose, 2 weapons among 12 people is more then enough.

Still seems very odd, when everything else Jesus taught was about the kingdom of God. Something feels out of place.