Do you believe that judgment is on the horizon, for the usa, and israel ?

[Willa]

Look how long God was patient with the heathen occupying Israel before the fullness of her evil made it fit for destruction.  Think of how long Israel was in Egypt awaiting the time when the land would be theirs.  

Parts of our nation was founded by the Puritans, Separatist, Baptists and Jews.  The Puritan government was a theocracy.  Our constitution was based on the Magna Carta, which was based on the Bible.  Perhaps those facts are no longer in our history books, which for a long time have been avoiding mentioning our religious heritage.  I have a book written in 1876 which details the religious lives and beliefs of our president up until that time.  It was not written by or for Christians.  

We as a country have forsaken our religious heritage and denied our God.  Satan has abused and perverted the liberties guaranteed by our constitution.  But the goodness of God may lead some to repentance.  I hope so.  

Israel will repent and turn to Christ when the antichrist seats himself in the Holy Place, claiming to be God.   That is when everything hits the fan.  

[other one]

29 minutes ago, bopeep1909 said:

Would you go more into detail regarding your post? Why would no one have to worry if they are left down here to suffer God's wrath? How will the beast take care of that?

if you don't worship the beast and take it's name, it will cut off your head.....   and believe it or not, that's really not a bad way to go...   though rather messy, but you won't really care.

[missmuffet]

2 minutes ago, other one said:

if you don't worship the beast and take it's name, it will cut off your head.....   and believe it or not, that's really not a bad way to go...   though rather messy, but you won't really care.

The Bible tells me that born again Christians will not go through the tribulation so I am not worried about getting my head cut off.

[simplejeff]

Amen Reinitin.  Amen.   and HalleluYAH to our KING ! 

Thanks for clarifying - POSITIVE EXPECTATION CONFIRMED_  you found HIM.  No waiting until some day, ... no.

1 hour ago, Reinitin said:

"Jeff all the choices confused me.. I went to the Lord and found Him. He alway knew were I was. I wasn't lost by Him. I could not find Him in all the false formulas. It was like they had me think I had to get Him to notice me.. pray this do that blah blah. The problem was my blindness I couldn't see Him. When you go to Him to know Him you find Him.

 

All the choices" are written in Scripture , "Yahweh made everything simple, man complicated everything." ((NOT in a good way,  but confusing on purpose, deceiving on purpose.))

Yes,  everyone is blind.  One key for me, so I didn't stay blind, I willingly kept seeking the TRUTH/ YAHSHUA/ YAHWEH.>>

His Revelation that "ALL MEN ARE LIARS".  all mankind is perverse and pernicious, blind and naked.

Thus, knowing that, I did not hang on to anything man had taught me that did was not TRUTH.  Test EVERYTHING - yes EVERYTHING until it is proven true before accepting it.

As you found out also.  SEEK YAHWEH and you found Him.  I did SEEK YAHWEH, until I found Him.  HIS PROMISE((like all the Scriptures; and the ones you posted))

Gave up everything for HIM.  So simple. So true.  So much JOY IN SALVATION ! and PEACE and RIGHTEOUSNESS ((HIS)).

 

1 hour ago, Reinitin said:

What i mean is. Antichrist and false witnesses give formulas to people like do this, stop doing that go to this church here, help that person their. Give money here, light that candle there, bow in front of this statue here, act like gandhi, help like mother theresa, martyr your self like Hunt, get your demons cast out. We gotta seek Christ.

Yahshua addressed the formulas in the Gospel.  The formulas never worked, and don't work.

the ones you mentioned, held in high esteem by men,  not so.

((can't say what Yahweh says here-- you know it though.  He showed you too.))

[simplejeff]

excerpts from Corrie ten Boom:

"There are some among us teaching there will be no tribulation, that the Christians will be able to escape all this. These are the false teachers that Jesus was warning us to expect in the latter days.  Most of them have little knowledge of what is already going on across the world. I have been in countries where the saints are already suffering terrible persecution.

In China, the Christians were told, "Don't worry, before the tribulation comes you will be translated – raptured." Then came a terrible persecution.  Millions of Christians were tortured to death. Later I heard a Bishop from China say, sadly,

"We have failed. 
We should have made the people strong for persecution, 
rather than telling them Jesus would come first.
Tell the people how to be strong in times of persecution, 
how to stand when the tribulation comes, 
– to stand and not faint."

I feel I have a divine mandate to go and tell the people of this world that it is possible to be strong in the Lord Jesus Christ. We are in training for the tribulation, but more than sixty percent of the Body of Christ across the world has already entered into the tribulation. There is no way to escape it."

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"So Corrie's message here is "a word to the wise". It should be regarded by all serious Christians as crucially important information. Without this "heads-up" Christians in the West will be left unprepared. They are unwittingly being set up for a fall, even a Great Falling Away or a Great Apostasy.

This is most unfortunate. We serve a loving God who has promised to keep His covenant people from the wrath to come. But He does tell them that 'in this world you will have tribulation' which is entirely different.

Christian believers in China and elsewhere know and understand these things implicitly. They understand and accept blood covenant Christianity. These dear saints have entered into a serendipity. It is something which we in the Western Laodicean Church know little about right now. But our brothers and sisters in the Suffering Church over in places abroad are traveling up on that higher pathway, that Highway of Holiness. (Isa. 35) Theses dear saints are not trying to avoid the Way of the cross. So, why should we be angry at this message or offended by this High Calling?

The wonderful testimony of Corrie Ten Boom and her sister Betsy was this.

"There is no pit so deep that God's love is not deeper still."
and
"God will give us the love to be able to forgive our enemies".

[SINNERSAVED]

14 minutes ago, bopeep1909 said:

The Bible tells me that born again Christians will not go through the tribulation so I am not worried about getting my head cut off.

where did you read that ,and what scripture  or book  says that ? for that is not true , and is a false teaching, ?

the bible clearly states that people will have tribulation, we will be persecuted and hated and some will be placed in jail and or killed or beheaded for our faith ,

it also says, do not let anyone deceive you , for many are false teachers , and will tell people what they want to hear,

 we are now as believers in the usa , persecuted, and arrested for preaching the word, for sharing Gods word and sharing our faith in the us military forces, and so ,this is facts of the beginning of things to come to you and me and all that put there trust into Jesus , for it comes with a cost, but in the end it will be victory through the glory of God and the salvation of the blood on the cross,

 blessings my sister, this is the truth .

[hmbld]

33 minutes ago, bopeep1909 said:

The Bible tells me that born again Christians will not go through the tribulation so I am not worried about getting my head cut off.

Have you read any history of what Christians have already been through?  

[MorningGlory]

4 hours ago, SINNERSAVED said:

if you want a example, look at the bush family and all the high ranking seats in power that govern us, it is no secret any more, that many came from the same belief and religion, and are part of the crossbones, where did Obama go to college, john Kerry and the list goes on, its interesting to see how it is all one, but what we see is not what it is ?

 

 and we heard it from our president that this is no longer a Christian nation, from one that follows the quran this is all common knowledge , and shown to the people, and He heads the muslim brotherhood, on top of this, so where does America stand now ?

Can you post your sources for the statements above?

[missmuffet]

36 minutes ago, SINNERSAVED said:

where did you read that ,and what scripture  or book  says that ? for that is not true , and is a false teaching, ?

the bible clearly states that people will have tribulation, we will be persecuted and hated and some will be placed in jail and or killed or beheaded for our faith ,

it also says, do not let anyone deceive you , for many are false teachers , and will tell people what they want to hear,

 we are now as believers in the usa , persecuted, and arrested for preaching the word, for sharing Gods word and sharing our faith in the us military forces, and so ,this is facts of the beginning of things to come to you and me and all that put there trust into Jesus , for it comes with a cost, but in the end it will be victory through the glory of God and the salvation of the blood on the cross,

 blessings my sister, this is the truth .

This verse pertains to the born again Christians not going through the seven year tribulation

1 Thessalonians 5:9 ⁹ For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ

That is what the Bible tells me and I will believe that until my head is in a guillotine or a man is coming to cut my head off. And the Antichrist is the ruler of our world. Please do not tell me that it is false teaching because I am not telling you that what you believe is false doctrine.

 

[hmbld]

14 minutes ago, bopeep1909 said:

This verse pertains to the born again Christians not going through the seven year tribulation

1 Thessalonians 5:9 ⁹ For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ

That is what the Bible tells me and I will believe that until my head is in a guillotine or a man is coming to cut my head off. And the Antichrist is the ruler of our world. Please do not tell me that it is false teaching because I am not telling you that what you believe is false doctrine.

 

I understand you believe Christians will not go through THE tribulation, but many Christians all through history have endured torture and death, what makes you believe you or I are promised otherwise when it is even happening now in our time?