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Daniel 7:25
He will speak against the Most High and oppress his holy people and try to change the set times and the laws. The holy people will be delivered into his hands for a time, times and half a time.

Who delivers the Holy people into his hand but God himself? How could the Antichrist overpower God's people and reign over earth without God wanting him to.  Could anyone conquer and rule earth without God's help?

  Could you imagine how lovable and talented someone would have to be to rule over all nations?  No one has ever come close.  Where could such gifts and talent come from?  Of course you will say the Devil, but could the Devil create such a person so lovable that the whole world (save for the elect) will worship him.  I think God gives the Antichrist his Destiny and the gifts to achieve world domination.  God has a purpose for everything under the sun, and He has a purpose for the Antichrist as well, don't you think?  

God clearly wills that the Antichrist reigns, no?  Why does God will this?

 


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God Allowing things & "wanting" or His Will,is totally different.......not everything that happens is from God but He does Allow certain things & He Will use them for His Plans & Purpose,in the end all things will lead to His Glory & every knee will bow at His Feet....

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But as for you, ye thought evil against me; but God meant it unto good, to bring to pass, as it is this day, to save much people alive.

                                                                        Genesis 50:20


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Behold ye among the heathen, and regard, and wonder marvellously: for I will work a work in your days, which ye will not believe, though it be told you.                                                 Habakkuk 1:5

 


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15 hours ago, spiderman1917 said:

Daniel 7:25
He will speak against the Most High and oppress his holy people and try to change the set times and the laws. The holy people will be delivered into his hands for a time, times and half a time.

Who delivers the Holy people into his hand but God himself? How could the Antichrist overpower God's people and reign over earth without God wanting him to.  Could anyone conquer and rule earth without God's help?

  Could you imagine how lovable and talented someone would have to be to rule over all nations?  No one has ever come close.  Where could such gifts and talent come from?  Of course you will say the Devil, but could the Devil create such a person so lovable that the whole world (save for the elect) will worship him.  I think God gives the Antichrist his Destiny and the gifts to achieve world domination.  God has a purpose for everything under the sun, and He has a purpose for the Antichrist as well, don't you think?  

God clearly wills that the Antichrist reigns, no?  Why does God will this?

 

The Church is Raptured. The "Holy people" is Israel, the Anti-Christ Conquers them, just like all the 6 other Beasts/Heads of the Seven Headed Beast (Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome). This is a part of Israels punishment or Daniels 70 Weeks Judgment. The Church (Pentecost Age/Feast of Pentecost/Harvest years) is Raptured, the Trump (Feast of Trumpets) sounds, ending Pentecost and signifying that ATONEMENT for Israel (Feast of Atonement) is at hand. Then of course we have the Feast of Tabernacle, and tabernacle means = Dwells with God. So after Israel repents, God protects them in the Wilderness for 1260 days from the Anti-Christ, even though he Conquers their land. Then in the end Israel will Dwell with God.

 

Israel must Repent, and except Jesus as their Messiah, and they will.


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41 minutes ago, Revelation Man said:

The Church is Raptured. The "Holy people" is Israel, the Anti-Christ Conquers them, just like all the 6 other Beasts/Heads of the Seven Headed Beast (Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome). This is a part of Israels punishment or Daniels 70 Weeks Judgment. The Church (Pentecost Age/Feast of Pentecost/Harvest years) is Raptured, the Trump (Feast of Trumpets) sounds, ending Pentecost and signifying that ATONEMENT for Israel (Feast of Atonement) is at hand. Then of course we have the Feast of Tabernacle, and tabernacle means = Dwells with God. So after Israel repents, God protects them in the Wilderness for 1260 days from the Anti-Christ, even though he Conquers their land. Then in the end Israel will Dwell with God.

 

Israel must Repent, and except Jesus as their Messiah, and they will.

How do you know the Church will be raptured?    If the rapture theory is a true Biblical teaching. Why was it not well known and popularized until the early 20th century?  http://www.end-times-prophecy.org/rapture-theory-false.html

 

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17 hours ago, spiderman1917 said:

Daniel 7:25
He will speak against the Most High and oppress his holy people and try to change the set times and the laws. The holy people will be delivered into his hands for a time, times and half a time.

Who delivers the Holy people into his hand but God himself? How could the Antichrist overpower God's people and reign over earth without God wanting him to.  Could anyone conquer and rule earth without God's help?

  Could you imagine how lovable and talented someone would have to be to rule over all nations?  No one has ever come close.  Where could such gifts and talent come from?  Of course you will say the Devil, but could the Devil create such a person so lovable that the whole world (save for the elect) will worship him.  I think God gives the Antichrist his Destiny and the gifts to achieve world domination.  God has a purpose for everything under the sun, and He has a purpose for the Antichrist as well, don't you think?  

God clearly wills that the Antichrist reigns, no?  Why does God will this?

 

We have OT history how God dealt with Israel. He caused the heathen to come against them, in hope they would turn to him. 

Mostly generally troubles brings a prayer for help, when it gets serious they will do anything to survive. God has and will again

raise up and allow the adversary the Devil to stir the minds of the people. Its seems the love of God isn't enough. :(

Just a thought.


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19 hours ago, spiderman1917 said:

Daniel 7:25
He will speak against the Most High and oppress his holy people and try to change the set times and the laws. The holy people will be delivered into his hands for a time, times and half a time.

Who delivers the Holy people into his hand but God himself? How could the Antichrist overpower God's people and reign over earth without God wanting him to.  Could anyone conquer and rule earth without God's help?

  Could you imagine how lovable and talented someone would have to be to rule over all nations?  No one has ever come close.  Where could such gifts and talent come from?  Of course you will say the Devil, but could the Devil create such a person so lovable that the whole world (save for the elect) will worship him.  I think God gives the Antichrist his Destiny and the gifts to achieve world domination.  God has a purpose for everything under the sun, and He has a purpose for the Antichrist as well, don't you think?  

God clearly wills that the Antichrist reigns, no?  Why does God will this?

 

Have you considered Job?  God did not do a thing against Job.  He allowed Satan to test Job, knowing the end results.  Job came out being closer to God and trusting Him more.  Job had a much better picture of God than he did before the testing.  God allowing the anti-Christ to test the end time people is the same idea.  Satan will sift out the true believers from the false.  Have you considered 2 Thessalonians 2 where we read that there will be a great falling away before His return?  How do you think this falling away happens?


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3 hours ago, spiderman1917 said:

How do you know the Church will be raptured?    If the rapture theory is a true Biblical teaching. Why was it not well known and popularized until the early 20th century?  http://www.end-times-prophecy.org/rapture-theory-false.html

 

Well your understanding is just not factual. Paul spoke of the HARPAZO or Snatching away by force, 2000 years ago. In the Latin Vulgate bible written in the year 400ish the Greek Word HARPAZO was translated to RAPIO, meaning the same thing. Then of course about a 1000 years latter the English versions used SNATCHED AWAY........The English word for RAPIO became RAPTURE which means SNATCHED AWAY. You are having a problem it seems with translations. 

I know the Church will be Raptured because Paul spoke it, and it fits like a glove when you put the bible together. Remember, it is not for Israel per se, maybe for a few Messianic Jews, thus its not in the Old Testament at all (they are told about Jacobs Trouble or the Tribulation) , that is why Paul said, I TELL YOU A MYSTERY (Musterion = Secret) we shall not all die, but some will be changed in the Twinkling of an Eye....... That is the Rapture. 

 

We can look at all kind of kooky sites, I can pretty much show why each of their points is off base. They have the ole line "The Tares and the Wheat grow together until the end".....Thus there can be no RAPTURE. What they don't get is the Wheat is Israel, the Tares are the Wicked, the Church is Raptured to Heaven. Jesus came to Minister to the Lost Sheep of Israel, ONLY...He said that himself. His prophecies are about Israel. Proof that the Wheat is Israel is : If the Rapture was PRE, MID or POST, we still go to meet the lord in the Air, thus we would not Grow Together until the Lord Returned, for in Rev. 19, we Marry the Lamb before we return. This is the deal, the Church is Raptured, we Marry the Lamb (Rev. 19) we return on White Horses with Jesus Christ, IMMEDIATELY AFTER the Tribulation, we destroy the Wicked, and God has been protecting Israel in the Wilderness for 1260 Days, he now invites them UNTO HIS BARN......Into the Family of God. AMEN. Israel are the Wheat.

 

 

 

 

 


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The Antichrist is seen in the seven year tribulation upon this earth. The tribulation is God's wrath on sin and unbelievers.


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47 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

The tribulation is God's wrath on sin and unbelievers.

That is a theological opinion, and perhaps it would better be stated as such, and not as thought that is a certain fact, just sayin'!


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3 minutes ago, Omegaman 3.0 said:

That is a theological opinion, and perhaps it would better be stated as such, and not as thought that is a certain fact, just sayin'!

That is what the Bible tells me.

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