Fidei Defensor Posted June 24, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 165 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 3,997 Content Per Day: 1.58 Reputation: 2,607 Days Won: 15 Joined: 04/29/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 24, 2017 What is scary is that I was watching a film "Demolition Man" (1993) before such chips existed, and the future world of that film had people getting chips implanted into their hand. Now in 2017 it is actually here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixerupper Posted June 24, 2017 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 430 Content Per Day: 0.17 Reputation: 131 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted June 24, 2017 (edited) The mark is a stamp, an imprinted mark and it's also used of idolatrous images in Acts 17:29. The mark being an implanted computer chip goes along the same line as the old 'bar code' theory. If people would realize that this mark is imposed by the religious aspect of the beast and that it isn't worldwide, or that the anti-Christ kingdom isn't a glonal dictator with a one world government, maybe Christians would get somewhere. But they've been indoctrinated for decades about this mark and refuse to consider other viewpoints. Islam is the only religion where this could possibly be fulfilled today. You guys are waiting for a one world religion and government and global dictator for this mark to emerge and that's just not going to happen. Other than being required to carry a Koran in your RIGHT hand WITHIN the kingdom of the demonic duo, this is the mark of the beast.... Isn't it just a coincidence that the Koran has 6,666 verses in it. The number of the verses in the Koran according to the scholars: Ibn-i Abbas (ra): 6616, Nafi (ra): 6217, Shayba (ra): 6214, Scholars of Egypt (ra): 6226, Zamahshari (ra)(the genius Eloquence Scholar of the Arabic language and literature);6666.Bediuzzaman, mujaddid (the reformer) of the13.century, also has the opinion of6666 verses. A fanatical Muslims forehead is meant to touch the ground at least 34 times a day in symbolic submission to Allah's will which could add up to more than a million prostrations in a lifetime. Over time this creates a hardened patch of skin on the forehead called the raisin or zebiba. The right hand and forehead happen to have religious significance in Islam. One Muslim said, "When a person prays salah, usually his forehead gets darker because of sajda and people know that he prays. Because of this, this person can feel proud and may be sometimes he likes people to talk positive about him and say good remarks about him because of his prayers." The mark isn't an implanted microchip or complicated global economic system. It's attributed to the religious aspect of the beast(s). It can be as simple as the zebiba, wearing a turban, or having to carry a koran in your right hand which has 6,666 verses in it. Islam is the only religion, and the Arab/Islamic Middle-East is the only region, where this could easily happen and be enforced. Edited June 24, 2017 by fixerupper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fidei Defensor Posted June 25, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 165 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 3,997 Content Per Day: 1.58 Reputation: 2,607 Days Won: 15 Joined: 04/29/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 25, 2017 But this mark control buying and selling, "He required everyone—small and great, rich and poor, free and slave—to be given a mark on the right hand or on the forehead. 17 And no one could buy or sell anything without that mark, which was either the name of the beast or the number representing his name. " (Revelation 13:16-17). To me it seems a chip that contains all your social security, credit card, stocks, and etc in ship inserted in hand or head would be more likely than some tattoo. Because in military they now insert a chip in head (brain stem) and corporations insert it in the hand. We live in first century where one man can control all finances and buying and selling via the global market, and online banking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Daze Posted July 19, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,987 Content Per Day: 1.13 Reputation: 2,517 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/17/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted July 19, 2017 On 6/21/2017 at 7:07 AM, BobRyan said: The mark of the beast "technology" is not the sin. The sin is "worship" of the beast and/or his image. The sign of "Approval" or compliance with that act of worship - is that you are given some "approval" or sign that you have agreed. Whether it is new currency, an unfrozen bank account, a national credit card, a biometric-fingerprint approval, a biometric eye-scan approval .... does not matter. Whatever form the technology takes -- does not matter. What matters as "sin" is the act of false worship. And Satan will not allow you to have that "sign of approval" without first conforming/complying with the requirements for getting it in the first place. This misplaced focus on "what technology will they use" is like a focus on "thin cows coming out of the Nile... how can we avoid the thin cows when they come out of the Nile River?" in Joseph's day. That would be the wrong focus for preparing for the drought that they symbolized. I agree. The "mark", whatever it is, provides for continued sustenance. It is always mentioned with worshiping the image of the beast. The mark and the image will reveal who is willing to engage in sinful behavior in order to save their lives. It's another step in the process of causing people to choose which kingdom they belong to before Jesus returns and brings about the ultimate regime change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobRyan Posted July 19, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 711 Content Per Day: 0.28 Reputation: 266 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/12/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 19, 2017 (edited) On 6/23/2017 at 10:58 PM, Sister said: It needs to be loud and clear, and simple as possible that this is how the beast will do it. THE RFID CHIP implanted into us. For the love of God and the truth, lets warn our brothers and sisters and everybody walking the earth not to acccept this chip without all the confusion for it is the Mark of the Beast. I am sorry to say - this is completely the wrong focus. The "sin" is not a credit card or "chip". The "sin" is what the Beast will be asking you to do - where the sign that you did it - is that the Beast allows you to have the chip or the card. I am fairly certain that BEFORE this becomes a sin at the level of "mark of the beast" - that "card" or whatever, will already have been distributed (as the latest feature in the new-improved kind of monitor and control), just like driver's licenses and SSNs and Passports etc are already used for 'monitor and control' today. The "solution" was never "so don't get a driver's license". In the same way the solution to whatever improved technology they come up with BEFORE the mark of the beast is even an issue at all - won't be the "problem". It is merely their "solution" for how they can have even better monitor and control - than they already have today. Edited July 19, 2017 by BobRyan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brakelite Posted July 19, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 977 Content Per Day: 0.21 Reputation: 641 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/15/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted July 19, 2017 Closely linked with the false worship one must adhere to in order to buy and sell,is deception. The world is deceived into this worship...the world is lied to. Thus we cannot be talking about the image being some sort of statue...the beast is a political/religious power...the image to that beast must therefore also be a religious/political power. Now worship is submission...a form of surrender. True worship of the Creator, Jesus Christ, is submission to His Lordship over our lives. Worship of the image, and the beast it is a copy of, is submission to its laws and demands regarding some form of religious practice which is contrary to God's commandments, as the people who accept the mark,those who falsely worship, are set in contrast to those who keep God's Commandments and have the faith of Jesus. Because the world is predominantly nominally Christian , no-one is going to be deceived in worshiping or surrendering to an Islamic state as many suggest is the "antichrist"power. No, the final religious world church/state union Babylon the Great is nominally Christian, which means the deception is over Christian worship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Last Daze Posted July 19, 2017 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 84 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 3,987 Content Per Day: 1.13 Reputation: 2,517 Days Won: 4 Joined: 07/17/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted July 19, 2017 1 hour ago, BobRyan said: I am sorry to say - this is completely the wrong focus. The "sin" is not a credit card or "chip". The "sin" is what the Beast will be asking you to do - where the sign that you did it - is that the Beast allows you to have the chip or the card. I am fairly certain that BEFORE this becomes a sin at the level of "mark of the beast" - that "card" or whatever, will already have been distributed (as the latest feature in the new-improved kind of monitor and control), just like driver's licenses and SSNs and Passports etc are already used for 'monitor and control' today. The "solution" was never "so don't get a driver's license". In the same way the solution to whatever improved technology they come up with BEFORE the mark of the beast is even an issue at all - won't be the "problem". It is merely their "solution" for how they can have even better monitor and control - than they already have today. Yes, the mark is specific to the false prophet. It is either his name or number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brakelite Posted July 19, 2017 Group: Senior Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 23 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 977 Content Per Day: 0.21 Reputation: 641 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/15/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted July 19, 2017 6 hours ago, Heavenly Sent said: Read these words from the Lord; https://goddeception.wordpress.com/2016/10/21/the-beast/ There are many false ideas,some slightly awry, some bearing a dangerous mixture of truth and error. Yet others, are built on human philosophy and esoteric mysticism that is essentially pagan, yet using Christian terms and words, a deceitful ploy used by new agers and Luciferians. Your link above is of the latter. It undermines truth, makes ancient literal history a metaphor, and reduces the real Son of God to an idea. Pure new age. Garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavenly Sent Posted July 20, 2017 Group: Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 20 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 15 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/18/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted July 20, 2017 45 minutes ago, brakelite said: There are many false ideas,some slightly awry, some bearing a dangerous mixture of truth and error. Yet others, are built on human philosophy and esoteric mysticism that is essentially pagan, yet using Christian terms and words, a deceitful ploy used by new agers and Luciferians. Your link above is of the latter. It undermines truth, makes ancient literal history a metaphor, and reduces the real Son of God to an idea. Pure new age. Garbage. You have no idea where I got those words from because you are not a chosen servant of God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reinitin Posted July 20, 2017 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 51 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,366 Content Per Day: 0.79 Reputation: 2,149 Days Won: 9 Joined: 01/10/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted July 20, 2017 (edited) On 6/10/2017 at 8:31 PM, wingnut- said: I personally believe it will be something physical, we certainly see the possibility in today's technology for that. Whatever it will be, it won't be something one can mistakenly take, it will be done willingly. It will be required for anyone who lives by what we consider a normal lifestyle in order to get the necessities. God bless I agree. The painful sores and boils on all those who take the mark keeps it in a actual description context for me and not symbolism. the mark will be obvious by the biblical description to those who are confronted with it in that day. The blessing of reading Revelation is we have the word for the Lord to guide us with. Edited July 20, 2017 by Reinitin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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