The Great Falling Away

[Pekoudah]

^{2 Thess. 2:3} Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

 

I see that the churches have opted for numbers rather than content...for quantity rather than quality. Success is being measured by worldly standards...more followers, more money.

So from a worldly standpoint, there seems to be no problem.

But with the natural build-up of religious adherents there is a converse spiritual falling away. A spiritual diluting of the truth.

When there were few bibles, there was revival...at the early church stage. But with the multiplication of bibles and bible ownership did not come an explosion of spiritual life.

The narrow road just got wider and wider to accommodate fewer and fewer real conversions. But there is a savvy among men. We know how to make things appear to be working. We are experts at that.

So then either God didn't get the memo about how good we are doing...or maybe we aren't getting the serious nature of tampering with the truth.

[shortangel]

good point you have made,  I agree with you

[BeauJangles]

2 hours ago, Pekoudah said:

I see that the churches have opted for numbers rather than content...for quantity rather than quality. Success is being measured by worldly standards...more followers, more money.

This is the tragic truth of many churches in today's world. Nice post, Pekoudah. God bless and help us. 

Shalom, 

David/BeauJangles

[Still Alive]

2 hours ago, Pekoudah said:

^{2 Thess. 2:3} Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

 

I see that the churches have opted for numbers rather than content...for quantity rather than quality. Success is being measured by worldly standards...more followers, more money.

So from a worldly standpoint, there seems to be no problem.

But with the natural build-up of religious adherents there is a converse spiritual falling away. A spiritual diluting of the truth.

When there were few bibles, there was revival...at the early church stage. But with the multiplication of bibles and bible ownership did not come an explosion of spiritual life.

The narrow road just got wider and wider to accommodate fewer and fewer real conversions. But there is a savvy among men. We know how to make things appear to be working. We are experts at that.

So then either God didn't get the memo about how good we are doing...or maybe we aren't getting the serious nature of tampering with the truth.

My personal opinion is that the brush you use is too broad. I've been in churches that are proud of their numbers, and I've been in churches that are proud of their lack of growth (but in a backhanded way) because they are being "true to the gospel". My take as a visitor to some of those churches, though, was that they were not growing because no visitor would feel welcome there - and their teaching was seriously wanting. 

But the truth is that every church is different. Some are wrong in one way, and some are wrong in others. Not a one of them is perfect. And my take on the end times is that there is going to be both falling away and revival. Those that are there hedging their bets against hell will disappear, and those that desire a relationship with their creator will come in droves. 

Edited May 7, 2019 by Still Alive

[Pekoudah]

6 minutes ago, Still Alive said:

My personal opinion is that the brush you use is too broad. I've been in churches that are proud of their numbers, and I've been in churches that are proud of their lack of growth (but in a backhanded way) because they are being "true to the gospel". My take as a visitor to some of those churches, though, was that they were not growing because no visitor would feel welcome there - and their teaching was seriously wanting. 

But the truth is that every church is different. Some are wrong in one way, and some are wrong in others. Not a one of them is perfect. And my take on the end times is that there is going to be both falling away and revival. Those that are there hedging their bets against hell will disappear, and those that desire a relationship with their creator will come in droves. 

I too believe that there is a parting of the ways coming in the future. There will be a revival of truth that will either attract people to a deeper walk or scare them off. It must be that brother turns against brother...Cain will rise up against Abel again....because men will see the approval of God on His people. This will cause a jealousy in they who walk in their old natures...so that the natural persecutes the spiritual.

 

Same as it ever was.

[missmuffet]

4 hours ago, Pekoudah said:

^{2 Thess. 2:3} Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

 

I see that the churches have opted for numbers rather than content...for quantity rather than quality. Success is being measured by worldly standards...more followers, more money.

So from a worldly standpoint, there seems to be no problem.

But with the natural build-up of religious adherents there is a converse spiritual falling away. A spiritual diluting of the truth.

When there were few bibles, there was revival...at the early church stage. But with the multiplication of bibles and bible ownership did not come an explosion of spiritual life.

The narrow road just got wider and wider to accommodate fewer and fewer real conversions. But there is a savvy among men. We know how to make things appear to be working. We are experts at that.

So then either God didn't get the memo about how good we are doing...or maybe we aren't getting the serious nature of tampering with the truth.

The Bible says we will see a great apostasy during the end times. I believe we are in the end times now. 

Matthew 24:10-12

 And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another. ¹¹ Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. ¹² And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold.

[LadyKay]

4 hours ago, Pekoudah said:

I see that the churches have opted for numbers rather than content..

I never like statements like this.  To me it seems you are painting every church with the same brush.  The church I attend is on fire for Jesus. The Holy Spirit shows up every Sunday and you can feel the power.  If you have an issue with a particular church  then address "that church"  Don't just throw your hands in the air and say churches are doing this or not doing that. When In fact not every church is the same. Nor is every church doing the same thing.  

[BorderCowboy]

I agree brother! We are seein' more n more of these mega-churches, who's pastors/ministers preach the health n wealth bull pucky! This is the preachin' of worldly things, things we are told not to place over our Lord n Savior! And as far as Bibles go, there are so many translations that allot of them have changed the message! It is our duty to be vigilant n recognize false profits n their teachin's! For me, if somethin' goes askew from what my KJV Bible says, it's bull pucky!

Just my two bits,  JJ

[Pekoudah]

1 hour ago, LadyKay said:

I never like statements like this.  To me it seems you are painting every church with the same brush.  The church I attend is on fire for Jesus. The Holy Spirit shows up every Sunday and you can feel the power.  If you have an issue with a particular church  then address "that church"  Don't just throw your hands in the air and say churches are doing this or not doing that. When In fact not every church is the same. Nor is every church doing the same thing.  

Results may vary!

[ayin jade]

Personally Im seeing more churches fall astray. Once solid churches caving in to worldly views. Fortunately there are still solid churches out there, some large and some small.